Shaman Said

[ShamanSaid]

Hello all,

Looks like a good bastion of truth here, hope I can help out shedding light on our enemy and learn more about the extent of this age old problem.

Btw: For those that listen to Piper on RBN and may have paid a visit to the "Dave from Massachusetts" blog, I am indeed the Shaman commenter there: http://davefrommassachusetts.wordpress. ... /#comments

Cheers and Godspeed,
+Shaman

[ShamanSaid]

Here is a recent post of mine from OUTLAWJOURNALISM.COM website which is the first thread entitled "JEW CONSPIRACY":

Wicked Shaman Said 09/02/2009 at 7:38 am I believe it is correct and useful to label it a Jewish conspiracy and it is not at all racist to do so for Jew is not a race. According to my research the Jews were nothing but the gutter trash of ancient Egypt - for whom the Pharoah took a golden calf from his treasury and gave it to his general Moses and had all the dreggs of ancient Egytian society led out of there far enough away to the "promised land". They were a hodgepodge of thieves, derelicts, handicapps and prostitutes. The reason you don't know this is because all you know is from the telling of they themselves (Josephus) much like a normal war in this "info-war" you need to outflank your enemy - in this case you need to drop below Josephus and the Jew lies and get to Apion and Manethos writings.

That said this Jew conspiracy is one of revenge on humanity and there are two central pillars I call Joaquim and Boaz (yes after Solomon's temple). The Joaquim of their central tenet is that "it's not enough that I win, it's just as important that you lose". This idea permeates all they do. The second is "do everything to destroy the non-jews while empowering ourselves yet keep it just below the radar screen that the non-jew's animosity never be raised against us". Again this permeates all they do.

What do you call a guilty Jew? a white guy

tommy 09/02/2009 at 10:15 am What you fail to understand Wicked Shaman is that the ancient Egyptian Jew is the real deal while the Zionist are pretending to be descendants of them. They aren't nor do they even practice the same religion. So no, there is no Jewish conspiracy. There is a conspiracy of people claiming to be Jews with a short history (that came out of no where), while real Jews have thousands of years of recorded history. Call it a Zionist conspiracy but attaching what the proclaim themselves to be only furthers their agenda.

"The first and most obvious fallacy contained in the "it's the Jews" argument is the obsessively chanted catch-phrase "these people are not real Jews". This line of thinking is based on the fact that the controlling Jewish forces are not racially Semitic, but rather Khazarian in origin."

^Watch the video I posted in my first reply, it explains it.

Wicked Shaman Said 10/02/2009 at 9:29 am You seem to think that it matters at what point people joined this cult of hatred. The modus operandi / playbook (the talmud) is the same.

THERE ARE NO GOOD JEWS

Either you are helping this Jewish conspiracy you are acting as an agent of Jews and therefore deserve the label JEW or you are working against it and therefore NOT A JEW. As I said it's not a race, you can't go to the BOWERY and take all the bums, give them a gold calf and a conspiracy based on hatred for world domination and call that a race.

There is a reason why it's easy to pick out most races by sight alone - you really can't do that with JEWS and it tells you something. It's nothing more than a cult.

And as far as people getting tied up with racist ideas, I wrote up this little blurb about it:

The JEW RACE question

Many people who are awakened to the fact that we are dealing with a Jewish conspiracy of world domination to the destruction of all others.

They know that this group, this cult, this sickness has been responsible and that they maintain along certain tendencies in their behaviour.

Unfortunately many are falling down the slippery slope to racist ideas - much of which is put out by the Jews themselves for the purpose of embroiling people (goy) into these incorrect racist ideas and simultaneously tasking them with being the mortar by which to bind the "Jew" cult members into not being able to shake off the cult and walk away.

The reason why stereotypes bear certain truths is simple. There is indeed a passing on of information genetically from parents to their offspring.

RACE IS NOT THE PROBLEM

It's simply this, whatever behaviours and tendencies of the parents will have a MEME effect and leave a kind of echo effect on the offspring. This doesn't mean that the offspring will necessarily embark along the same lines but there is a greater chance because it's presented both genetically in part and also environmentally in their raising - so the likliehood of a continuation of this MEME effect is rather high.

If you would take the most hideous Rothschild offspring, whose parents ate Christian baby boys daily for instance and drank only blood and had anal sex 3 times daily with children as well - then took that offspring and put it in a loving good home with mostly Christian values and such. I believe you would still see some strange behaviours manifest yet not nearly as bad. Then upon them growing up if they paired with another good Christian and had offspring, I believe the MEME effect would already be nearly erased.

Just like with dogs, you can erase almost fully any trait or genetic flaw with about 2 generations (3 max).

In order to combat the enemy most effectively we need the truth and the truth is nobody is BORN wrong, even though they may have a bit more crap baggage than others - they still have free will and can and should make the right decisions and everyone else should be facilitating that choice not hampering it.

[Ognir]

Welcome

[jai_mann]

RACE IS NOT THE PROBLEM

It's simply this, whatever behaviours and tendencies of the parents will have a MEME effect and leave a kind of echo effect on the offspring. This doesn't mean that the offspring will necessarily embark along the same lines but there is a greater chance because it's presented both genetically in part and also environmentally in their raising - so the likliehood of a continuation of this MEME effect is rather high.

If you would take the most hideous Rothschild offspring, whose parents ate Christian baby boys daily for instance and drank only blood and had anal sex 3 times daily with children as well - then took that offspring and put it in a loving good home with mostly Christian values and such. I believe you would still see some strange behaviours manifest yet not nearly as bad. Then upon them growing up if they paired with another good Christian and had offspring, I believe the MEME effect would already be nearly erased.

Just like with dogs, you can erase almost fully any trait or genetic flaw with about 2 generations (3 max).

In order to combat the enemy most effectively we need the truth and the truth is nobody is BORN wrong, even though they may have a bit more crap baggage than others - they still have free will and can and should make the right decisions and everyone else should be facilitating that choice not hampering it.

This is very well stated and I concur with it. The shame of the matter is that via manipulation of the worth of our labor these assholes have forced both parents,in most cases, into the work force which results in a smaller degree of transfer of the parent's values to the children. On top of that, the parents are burned out when they get home and many veg in front of the TV and whatever time they get with their children isn't as good of quality time. The children spend more time being corralled in public schools and engaging in behavior which may not easily be corrected by a moral adult (1 teacher : 20-40 children makes for poor odds in teaching individual behavior; however, it is excellent for conditioning obedience in a crowded setting to authority figures). I'm homeschooling when I have children. I plan on pumping them out as long as my fiancee can handle them hehe. Ideally 6-7, as that is an ideal number for instruction and you can teach the fastest learners to help teach slower learners. Work smarter not harder. And the other reason is that people who know WTF is going on need to increase our numbers. What better way than to do it through our own offspring who we can instill with proper values and means of assessing reality/power structure etc. Let's reverse what Rothchild did through our progeny. Many of the common folk will never get it nor care until they are affected and at that point they have no clue what to do any way because they engage in nonproductive past times.

[Anonymous]

@jai_mann

good luck finding a mate!  

@Shaman Said

you are on to something! there is different propaganda for different people. but whose propaganda is morally correct? whose propaganda is correct? which is a different question. and does might make right?

morally i would say no to might makes right, but realistically i would have to say yes.

as far as the egypt myth aka story. where is the proof that has not been fabricated?

seriously how long will cotton paper last  without glassed off air conditioned temperature controlled book safe rooms?

300 years?
400 years?
500 years?

maybe longer? but how much

you do the math

[ShamanSaid]

Aside from the copies and repairs of books that were made, here for convenience is a paper over 2000 years old:
"China may already have paper in real terms during the Western Han Dynasty (206 B.C--A.D.24)"

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20020 ... 5584.shtml

Just google APION and read the fragments we have including what the JEWS themselves have to say about him, and make up your own mind.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apion&aq=f&oq=

[gurdgieff]

Its a small world,Dave from Massachusetts..when i hear your name coming up on RBN I get excited and pay attention.
you give them a peice of youre mind.
you are the grass roots speaking from the horses mouth for working class people everywere.

[ShamanSaid]

I'm not Dave from Mass, I posted on his web blog a bit but other than that I don't know the guy at all.

[stoneskull]

hi shaman..

you have good words.

i agree.. a cult is a cult.. not a race.. even if members are born into the cult.

and those that are born into it.. they had no choice anyway.

if i was born into it, had my penis mutilated, got sent to cult studies,etc..

it wouldn't be my fault.

but maybe if people were kinder and more thoughtful, when i matured i could leave the cult.

if people who are on the ball with world events.. what's really happening..
and providing the hard evidence...
if these people had a tendency to just blame 'the jews. the jews' all the time,
then i'd be likely to retract my head into the cult shell.

a lot of scientologists aren't even born into it,
but i still recognise they are brainwashed and that they are lead from the top.
they aren't bad.. just caught up in a cult.

if i was born into a jewish family,
and it was clear the critics weren't pigeon-holing every jew..
i'd be more open, more willing to come out of my shell,
and be the individual human being that i am.

i'm sure of it.

there are guys messing things up.
providing great info.. say, 'missing links', for example,
but then getting on their radio show making hitler jokes, 'dirty jew' stabs, etc.
and that kind of thing is bad news.
for everyone.

[gurdgieff]

I'm not Dave from Mass, I posted on his web blog a bit but other than that I don't know the guy at all.

oops ok welcome ShamanSaid.
did you hear dave getting banned by tillawi on saturday its just at the beginning of hour 2..very funny.
tillawi got pissed with dave and told him not to call his show again.

[gurdgieff]

@jai_mann

good luck finding a mate!  

@Shaman Said

you are on to something! there is different propaganda for different people. but whose propaganda is morally correct? whose propaganda is correct? which is a different question. and does might make right?

morally i would say no to might makes right, but realistically i would have to say yes.

as far as the egypt myth aka story. where is the proof that has not been fabricated?

seriously how long will cotton paper last  without glassed off air conditioned temperature controlled book safe rooms?

300 years?
400 years?
500 years?

maybe longer? but how much

you do the math

Fact is the early christians were destroyers of all recorded history of man .the alexandria library,the great german library, The conquistadors destroyed every recorded written history they found when they invaded peru mexico and south america, they were just like polpot, its year zero.
the jesuits destroyed ancient scrolls in china. to this day they are lying to us.
its all just a mystery history is a myst.
the dead sea scrolls are over 500 years old and intact.
I remember seeing people rushing to dig up ancient clay tablets that were newly found and dated from ancient sumer in northern iraq2003 because they knew the warmongers were coming and all may be lost.and may be destroyed
the history of the earth and the progress of the human speices hidden,destroyd because of politics.and religion.

[Anonymous]

Fact is the early christians were destroyers of all recorded history of man .the alexandria library,the great german library, The conquistadors destroyed every recorded written history they found when they invaded peru mexico and south america, they were just like polpot, its year zero.
the jesuits destroyed ancient scrolls in china. to this day they are lying to us.
its all just a mystery history is a myst.
the dead sea scrolls are over 500 years old and intact.
I remember seeing people rushing to dig up ancient clay tablets that were newly found and dated from ancient sumer in northern iraq2003 because they knew the warmongers were coming and all may be lost.and may be destroyed
the history of the earth and the progress of the human speices hidden,destroyd because of politics.and religion.

The Dead Sea Scrolls: "A Hoax"
In the early 1950s, Professor Solomon Zeitlin of Dropsie University in Philadelphia argued strenuously--on philological grounds--that the antiquity of the Dead Sea Scrolls should be rejected. Subsequent carbon-14 tests on their linen wrappers firmly dated the finds to the late Second Temple Period and laid to rest arguments concerning the antiquity of the scrolls.

Solomon Zeitlin The Dead Sea Scrolls and Modern Scholarship (Philadelphia, 1956) Printed book. Hebraic Section, African and Middle Eastern Division, Library of Congress.

Thank goodness for C-14 dating!


-- Skeptical historian, Solomon Zeitlin, challenges "The Alleged Antiquity of the Scrolls" & claims they were forgeries (Jewish Quarterly Review 40-41).

http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=nLE ... &ct=result

they never tell you why he dates them to medieval period.

Do you want to know more?

[stoneskull]

apparently the first guy chosen to translate the scrolls realized a lot of it was about magic mushrooms.
they canned him, got someone else, and that first guy went on to write a book about mushrooms and religion.

[ShamanSaid]

This garbage about not having books past 2000 is Dead On Arrival - we have the Bible and  many other texts going back to the Rig Veda of Zoroastranism.

So let's nix this crap here about not being able to keep copies of books going back hundreds or thousands of years.

One book the Jews thought they extinguished from the planet was "The Book of Jubilees" aka "The Lessor Book of Genesis" - which is dated to around the 2nd century BC. This was the first attempt at the Jews to float the Bible and it fell flat on it's face and became the laughing stock of antiquity because the pompous and arrogant Jew scum from yesteryear had the gall to put in there that originally every single animal on the face of the planet spoke Hebrew (Haibaru).

[ShamanSaid]

apparently the first guy chosen to translate the scrolls realized a lot of it was about magic mushrooms.they canned him, got someone else, and that first guy went on to write a book about mushrooms and religion.

Don't know anything about what you're talking about but I believe he was right - specifically it's about the Amanita Muscaria mushroom. Was the guy's name Donald Teeter by any chance?

You may want to have a close look at the video by Hall & Oates "Man Eater". hehe (note the she's AMANITA not a man eater.. notice also AMANITA PANTHERINA and the muscone molecule on the drum set and the water drop of the fountain of youth play in the background.

While you're at it the smurfs has a wealth of info (and no I'm not joking see fountain of smurf episode).

[Anonymous]

This garbage about not having books past 2000 is Dead On Arrival - we have the Bible and  many other texts going back to the Rig Veda of Zoroastranism.

So let's nix this crap here about not being able to keep copies of books going back hundreds or thousands of years.

One book the Jews thought they extinguished from the planet was "The Book of Jubilees" aka "The Lessor Book of Genesis" - which is dated to around the 2nd century BC. This was the first attempt at the Jews to float the Bible and it fell flat on it's face and became the laughing stock of antiquity because the pompous and arrogant Jew scum from yesteryear had the gall to put in there that originally every single animal on the face of the planet spoke Hebrew (Haibaru).

John Allegro

prove your statement. The oldest fragments are medieval

how long does ink last?
how long does linen or cotton paper last?
why is it crap to question history?

[ShamanSaid]

Behold the pitiful Jew tripe known as the "Book of Jubilees":

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/jub/

"The Book of Jubilees, probably written in the 2nd century B.C.E., is an account of the Biblical history of the world from creation to Moses. It is divided into periods ('Jubilees') of 49 years. For the most part the narrative follows the familiar account in Genesis, but with some additional details such as the names of Adam and Eve's daughters, and an active role for a demonic entity called 'Mastema'. The anonymous author had a preoccupation with calendar reform, and uses Jubilees as a platform for proposing a solar calendar of 364 days and 12 months; this would have been a radical departure from the Jewish Calendar, which is lunar-based. There are also a couple of messianic, apocalyptic passages, although quite a bit less than the Book of Enoch.

The only complete version of Jubilees is in Ethiopian, although large fragments in Greek, Latin and Syriac are also known. It is believed that it was originally written in Hebrew. If at times one gets the impression that you are reading a first draft of Genesis, you are in good company. R.H. Charles, the translator, a distinguished academic Biblical scholar, concluded that Jubilees was a version of the Pentateuch, written in Hebrew, parts of which later became incorporated into the earliest Greek version of the Jewish Bible, the Septuagint. "

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/jub

Ever wonder why the Jews hate their Ethiopian brethren??  I believe that is the answer, they schismed way back and clung to the Book of Jubilees whilst the other "cult tribes" moved on to new books.

[Anonymous]

Aside from the copies and repairs of books that were made, here for convenience is a paper over 2000 years old:
"China may already have paper in real terms during the Western Han Dynasty (206 B.C--A.D.24)"

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20020 ... 5584.shtml

Just google APION and read the fragments we have including what the JEWS themselves have to say about him, and make up your own mind.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apion&aq=f&oq=

Thanks for the links

first off
China invent nothing, their History appears to be written within the last 200 years or so. It appears that china is not as ancient as appears to be.

I find very fishy that APION could comment on the medieval Homer from the homer family, unless he was from the same time period. Yes there was a Homer in the Medieval period. I know it's mind blowing how many of these ancient guys have guys in the medieval period with the same or similar names and tend to write about the same stuff.

For example Josephus or should I say Josippon who was once considered Josephus until he wasn't.

But hey what do I know, I wasn't alive way back when.

Just to address the Jubilees

It's my understanding that they are from the Qumran documents, which I hope my audio's provided some light on the matter. but the key words in your quote from sacred text's is Probably and Believed

[ShamanSaid]

first off
China invent nothing, their History appears to be written within the last 200 years or so. It appears that china is not as ancient as appears to be.

Where did you get your disinformation from? Those ideas are Team JEW lock stock and barrel.

Jews are try to diminish China's and everyone elses' history for that matter - Jews stand out too much in China and never really penetrated China with their own people they had to rely on Chinese to do their bidding there.

Anyhow, it's irrelevant as you probably already know and off topic.

[stoneskull]

she's amanita...

brilliant, mate.

yeah.. also considered to be the holy grail,
the way the mushroom edges rise at dawn and create a little cup,
in which the morning dew collected.. and could be sipped from.

drying them on a tree -> christmas tree decorations.. and drying them in a stocking over the fireplace..

many interesting things..

but yeah, the hall n oates song.. hadn't heard/thought of that before..
and it just blew my mind maaaan.
haha.

[ShamanSaid]

Yea, thanks - these Jews put the truth out there in places that "lack credibility" - I read Hitler once considered exposing the Old / New Testaments but decided against it because there would be too much flak and schism created.

In case people don't know what we're referring to, you can find a book I highly recommend by Donald Teeter here (it's free and very well written/documented):  http://ambrosiasociety.org/download.html

[Anonymous]

first off
China invent nothing, their History appears to be written within the last 200 years or so. It appears that china is not as ancient as appears to be.

Where did you get your disinformation from? Those ideas are Team JEW lock stock and barrel.

Jews are try to diminish China's and everyone elses' history for that matter - Jews stand out too much in China and never really penetrated China with their own people they had to rely on Chinese to do their bidding there.

Anyhow, it's irrelevant as you probably already know and off topic.

I think the following quote sums it up best

Do we know what is history?
First of all, a general statement: the traditional model of the past as presented in thousands and
thousands of historical books is wrong. The question is: how wrong it is and when the main
phase of the creation of history stopped (if it ever stopped)?
The next my questions, 'What is history?' is new in the critical historic discussion and is a result
of some discussions during many meeting and conferences. Even in the critical community some
people cannot distinguish between 'history' and 'past'. It is important to understand that we are
speaking about and giving critical analysis not of the past but of history, the written records of
the past. Many people think that if they speak about history, they are speaking about a real past.
This is not correct: they speak only about what they can read in books, not about the real past of
mankind.
If you do not separate these two positions or questions, in many cases you forget what you are
exactly saying. Are you speaking about some virtual world in which many pharaohs and kings
are living, or are we speaking about a past in which we have no real information about much of
this. Let us remember at any time: the history is only our model of the (mostly unknown) past. It
is not the past itself. The past was real but we have only very limited true information about it.
The history is well known, it is described in thousand and millions of books and papers, but is
not real, it is only a mental construct, it is a human model of some virtual past.
Speaking about historical analytics we are thinking on an analysis of the history, not of the past.
In the best case we can demonstrate that the history is an incorrect model of the past and to try to
understand how different they are: the past and the historical model of it. But in many cases we
can demonstrate the low level of modelling quality through the history just by a logical analysis
of the historical model itself.
The very important point in which we differ from historians is that, discussing any historical
epoch, we first ask the question: 'are we speaking of a real past, real persons, or possibly a
virtual past, historical romance, myths, legends, etc.?'. This is a question I have never heard a
speaker coming from history really presenting and analysing, though it is very important.

[ShamanSaid]

Where did you find this garbage? And this is the best source you can quote regarding your nonsense about Chinese history?

John, I believe you're a little disinfo Jew - I'd appreciate it if you'd emulate a man and admit it right here.

[sullivan]

first off
China invent nothing, their History appears to be written within the last 200 years or so. It appears that china is not as ancient as appears to be.

Is this just your opinion, or do you have hard EVIDENCE to back it up?

[Anonymous]

first off
China invent nothing, their History appears to be written within the last 200 years or so. It appears that china is not as ancient as appears to be.

Is this just your opinion, or do you have hard EVIDENCE to back it up?

I should have been very specific with regards to China.

I am sure they invented stuff, my experience in the region has shown me that people are very creative with building items out of the resources they have. But I doubt it highly that the Chinese invented paper.

currently I am researching  the "Ancient" History created for the Chinese. The scientific evidence seems very compelling, however I am not a scientist. The holes in the story are gaping.

I will present evidence in my next couple of shows

[Anonymous]

Where did you find this garbage? And this is the best source you can quote regarding your nonsense about Chinese history?

John, I believe you're a little disinfo Jew - I'd appreciate it if you'd emulate a man and admit it right here.

I suspect that it is only garbage because it derails your belief system and might be causing you strife as your mind tries to justify your beliefs with the new data it may be receiving.

No it's not the best source - I will address it in my next few shows

You can believe anything you want even if it is wrong. You better be willing to back your accusations up.

[LatinAmericanview]

Don't squeeze the Shaman :lol:

[LatinAmericanview]

Actually it is the lack of evidence that supports the claim. Consider that Marco Polo traveled to China and did not mention "The Great Wall of China!" There is no photographic evidence prior to 1950 of the great wall. Another way of looking at this how long have we traveling to the moon? According to the official fairy tale since the late sixties. Here is a rather shocking idea- what about fractions or complicated math problems. The Bible cites the use of usury. However, when where fractions invented?




    .

But let us return to mathematics and to ancient Rome. The Roman numeral system discouraged serious calculations. How could the ancient Romans build elaborate structures such as temples, bridges, and aqueducts without precise and elaborate calculations? The most important deficiency of Roman numerals is that they are completely unsuitable even for performing a simple operation like addition, not to mention multiplication, which presents substantial difficulties (see Figure 2). In early European universities, algorithms for multiplication and division using Roman numerals were doctoral research topics. It is absolutely impossible to use clumsy Roman numbers in multi-stage calculations. The Roman system had no numeral "zero." Even the simplest decimal operations with numbers cannot be expressed in Roman numerals. N.P. Just try to add Roman numerals:

MCDXXV
+
MCMLXV22
or multiply :
DCLIII
CXCIX23

These are real problems with the official fiction.

But I want to make one thing clear- I never let the facts get in the way of hating the Jews, believing the Virgin Mary, and even that we flew to the moon. Pass the Kool Aid please! :lol:

[LatinAmericanview]

A visitor to the Royal Tyrell museum asks a museum employee:
"How old is the skeleton of that T-Rex?"
"Precisely 60 million and three years, two months, and 12 days."
"How can you know that with such precision?"
"That's easy. When I started working here, a sign said that the skeleton was 60 million years old. And that was three years, two months, and 12 days ago..."

[sullivan]

Actually it is the lack of evidence that supports the claim.

I would be very wary about anything that relies on absence of evidence to as evidence of absence.

The Bible cites the use of usury. However, when where fractions invented?

Where does it state that usury has an absolute dependence on fractions?  If I loaned you fifty shekels and wanted sixty back in return, that's usury, and no fractions were used, abused or in any way harmed in its creation.

But let us return to mathematics and to ancient Rome. The Roman numeral system discouraged serious calculations. How could the ancient Romans build elaborate structures such as temples, bridges, and aqueducts without precise and elaborate calculations?

Perhaps they had some utterly laborious but accurate methods learned from the Etruscans that we are not aware of?

These are real problems with the official fiction.

This is my problem with alternatives to the official fiction. There are none. Those who scoff at recorded ancient history (which I know like all history has its flaws) rarely put up credible alternatives. For instance, if the Roman aqueducts, bridges, roads and ruins weren't built two thousand years ago, when were they built? If the Great Wall wasn't started during the Qin dynasty, then when was it started? How old is it?