Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes

[Rockclimber]

So why were they saying it did have human, bird and pig genes? A whole lot of hype-it appears they were hyping this with deliberate intent as a cover.

I last heard (have not confirmed) that 15,000 die a year in the US from the flu. That's 41 a day. How many have died thus far in the US? One, but all the hype. What bigger event(s) needed to be covered up by the media?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Swine-Fl ... 0423.shtml

It's actually a combination of two different swine flu strains

Recent developments in the analysis of the H1N1 swine influenza virus have shown that the lethal viral strain does not combine genes from humans, birds and pigs, as first thought, but that it's rather made up of a combination of two swine flu strains, which, brought together, are deadly to us. Scientists studying the strains have told Wired that the find may help researchers get a better understanding of how the virus acts, as well as of what methods could be employed to limit and eventually stop its spread.

"This is what we call a reassortment between two currently circulating pig flu viruses. Why it's emerged in humans is anyone's guess. It hasn't been seen before in pigs, as far as I know," University of Edinburgh Viral Geneticist Andrew Rambaut, who is involved in the H1N1 investigation efforts, explained. He worked on analyzing viral samples collected from two children in California, which were diagnosed as carriers of the swine flu strain.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) harvested the viral samples, and then made the genome sequence available to a number of research teams around the world, under what was known as an international database of flu genomes. Though Wired could not obtain an immediate response from the American authorities, documents released by the agency to scientists seem to confirm the suspicions that the lethal strain is actually made up entirely of pig genes, without any other additions.

The experts said that the two strains involved in the new pathogen were the North American and the European pig flu. The former was first described in the 1930s, while the other was thoroughly analyzed and described in 1979. How they combined is still a mystery, but geneticists argued that the "active ingredient" in the mix, which allowed it to become contagious to humans, was the neuraminidase enzyme, which coded the N1 designation in H1N1.

"The new neuraminidase gene that came in from Eurasian swine is one we've never before seen circulating in humans. That's one of the reasons it's spreading rapidly. Very few people will have any immunity to this particular combination, which is what gives the concern that this will be a pandemic rather than just a normal seasonal flu outbreak. It remains to be seen how much and to what extent there is existing immunity," Rambaut added.

"Influenza virus mutates remarkably rapidly, so there is no doubt that the virus will mutate and evolve in humans. Quite what this evolution will result in is difficult to tell," University of Pennsylvania virus evolution specialist Eddie Holmes concluded.  
 

[Jenny Lake]

This is getting weirder, for sure! The genesis of influenza is attributed to birds --pigs are a natural mixing host for humans because of similar biochemical responses. I read several websites today that identify avian genes in all the known flu strains...hmm, hmm, hmm.

[Rockclimber]

This is getting weirder, for sure! The genesis of influenza is attributed to birds --pigs are a natural mixing host for humans because of similar biochemical responses. I read several websites today that identify avian genes in all the known flu strains...hmm, hmm, hmm.

Hi Jenny,

Interesting...

Thanks for all the great editorials and inputs. It's a pleasure and privilege having you here. I'm anxiously waiting to hear your informed opinion on this matter.

Also I wanted to make a correction: I visited the CDC and it turns out there are roughly 36,000 US flu deaths a year, around 100 per day. So again. I'm having a problem with all the hype. So far I have only heard of 1-death in the US and it was a Mexican citizen who was hospitalized in the states.

[kolnidre]

The possibility of an outright bioweapon for population reduction cannot be discounted. But couldn't it also be simply an umbrella term for anyone falling ill with "flu-like symptoms," as we so often hear about? This would match the M.O. of attributing something to something altogether different, like Jenny's work on polio shows, or how the HIV test merely indicates an abused immune system. The objective, of course, is profit and control.

If it goes to Level 6 Alex Jones will have been correct about martial law. Except it will be instituted in the form of a health emergency. Anyone who refuses to go along with quarantine/vaccination measures will be an enemy of the public good (ef. Communitarianism, see Amitai Etzioni, AKA Werner Falk; Common Purpose) and can be taken out on the spot.

Go to your favorite video store (or even torrent site, but I can't condone that here, hehe) and rent Quarantine. People will lose all empathy for others when they feel directly threatened, and will do the killing for their masters without even knowing they're being used.

BTW, I have no doubt remaining that AJ is an agent, whether unknowing or willing, whose mission is to batter the free will of the people as part of the ritual of Revelation of the Method. It's like a Johan Santana changeup: you know it's coming, yet you still can't hit it.

[Jenny Lake]

hey Rc -- all I can really do is pick this apart and remember where it does or doesn't fit. The softpedia article (from CDC?) that claims the virus is made entirely of swine flu genes from 2 swine epidemics in history (1930s and 1979) are in contradiction with the information here:
http://jvi.asm.org.cgi.content/full/74/18/8502
It states clearly that flu epidemics from 1957, 1968, 1979 (in swine), and 1992 (in seals), "all of which were caused by the introduction of avian virus HAs (hemagglutinins) into these species."

The article here, about the two child cases in California, states nothing of the sort but that the swine strains were "similar". These two cases were from different counties.
http://infectious-diseases.jwatch.org/c ... eatured_id

[Jenny Lake]

okay, try that first link again
http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/74/18/8502

[Jenny Lake]

Kolnidre--

The possibility of an outright bioweapon for population reduction cannot be discounted.

That's hitting the nail on the head.

But couldn't it also be simply an umbrella term for anyone falling ill with "flu-like symptoms," as we so often hear about?

You are so right. People get flu from "infective"  viral agents in a biological effort of self-preservation. It's a healing mechanism! Viruses are generated within the body to break down "damage", but they multiply according to precise genetic instructions. The only way to generate "foreign" viruses is to have foreign genes in your system. We're all appropriately horrified at the GMO recombinations going on, the mixing of plant/animal/human genes. It means we've lost the vital protection of these precise codings.

[Jenny Lake]

Considering the possibilities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombinant_DNA_technology

Bacteria (which produce their own viruses) can be induced to carry and replicate "foreign" proteins. Bacteria arise as "polymorphisms" from the chemical environment of the matrix in which they live (life arises from chemistry), therefore is it possible that a genetic sequence of swine DNA is being replicated by bacteria? We are all loaded with bacteria-- NASA says 90% of our cells are "other". If our immune system (the T2 antibody mechanism) has been triggered to treat a specific gene-code as a pathogen, then a continuous infection is in progress exhausting our real immunity. Bacteria, in fact, play an important role in homeostasis (upset by the use of antibiotics), and release their viral content under threat, a condition called CPE, cytopathic effect, or the "SOS" response. This increases the probability of viral infection. Example, use of antibiotics was noted as a co-factor in polio.