DBS anti-semetic on USS Liberty site

[mgt23]

http://www.gtr5.com/
who runs this? no mention of why DBS is anti-semetic

[Ognir]

That's our buddy from WUFYS, can't put a name on him just now

Basically he has re-directed his domain to the USS Liberty site.  Ennes lost the plot if I remember, jumped on the Obama bandwagon and call us all Anti-Semites.

Old bullshit article from the election period. Maybe some Crypto made Ennes a promise,  :lol: in the election period :lol:

[LordLindsey]

http://www.gtr5.com/

"Anti-Semitism and the Anti-American Apologists


The USS Liberty Memorial web site abhors the racist and extreme positions taken by antiSemitic, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theorist and other such groups which often seek to identify with us and to usurp our story as their own. We have no connection with and do not support or encourage support from any of these groups including National Alliance, National Vanguard, The New Order, National Socialists, The French Connection, Liberty Lobby, American Free Press, Republic Broadcasting, AFP's Liberty Radio Hour, or other such groups. We wish harm to no one and encourage social justice and equality for everyone; we seek only accountability for the criminal acts perpetrated against us and can do that without help from hate-mongers."


http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/38058

"The American Free Press: Water-Boy for Anti-Semites and Conspiracy Theorists
Steve Shives September 19, 2007 When a fringe conspiracy theorist like Alex Jones or the makers of Loose Change, or a bigot like David Duke cites a newspaper article to support his contention that George W. Bush planned 9/11 to help the Jews steal Iraq's oil, say, chances are that article was published in the American Free Press. Nationalist, racist, free from the restrictive standards of actual journalism, it is the paper of record for politically minded ignorant lunatics all across the United States.

The American Free Press has only been published since 2001, but its roots reach back over fifty years. It was founded by far-right author and activist Willis Carto. Carto was an admirer of pro-Nazi writer Francis Parker Yockey, and was so impressed with Yockey's book Imperium (isn't that the perfect neo-fascist book title?) that he wrote one of his own, titled Profiles in Populism, which included glowing biographies of Thomas Jefferson, as well as Catholic priest/radio personality/Third Reich cheerleader Charles Coughlin, and industrialist and candid anti-Semite Henry Ford. In 1955 Carto founded Liberty Lobby, a nationalist and white supremacist political organization. He also started his own publishing house, Noontide Press, which reprinted Yockey's Imperium as well as Henry Ford's The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem and the completely discredited and exposed hoax The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

In 1975, Carto's Liberty Lobby began publishing a weekly newspaper called The Spotlight. By the 1980s, circulation of The Spotlight was around 200,000. The paper went out of business, along with Liberty Lobby, after losing a lawsuit in 2001 to the Legion for the Survival of Freedom, another right-wing extremist organization. The website LibertyLobby.Org maintains an archive of Spotlight articles with headlines like "Alert: [Janet] Reno's Police-State Power Grab," and "Jefferson Did Not Father Child With Slave."[1] Carto and his corps of loyal writers from The Spotlight soon regrouped, and later in 2001 published the first issue of their new weekly newspaper, the American Free Press.

The AFP's website is so poorly designed, one might be forgiven for mistaking it initially for a very tame porn site. Ads dominate a right-hand column, and the first message greeting readers below the title and navigation bar is a plea for donations — "beyond your annual subscription," if you please. The similarities to organized religion don't end there. Like other true believers, the writers and readers of the American Free Press prefer their own distortions, exaggerations, misinterpretations and misconceptions to objective reality. The front page today (9/18/2007) prominently features an article supporting pro-conspiracy theorist presidential candidate Ron Paul, with an article kicking up dust over the supposedly imminent, sovereignty-destroying North American Union just below.[2]

Willis Carto (who also publishes the blatantly racist Barnes Review) and those like him cling to their delusions as devoutly as monks in a sacred order. Facts that undermine their pro-white, anti-Jewish, xenophobic, nationalistic view of the world are dismissed as blithely as a Christian fundamentalist dismisses radiometric dating or the Big Bang theory. And some ties to Christianity are still more direct; among the banner ads at the bottom of the front page are a graphic urging readers to join "Gideon's Elite" and "prepare for kingdom service," and another that states flatly "the Jews are not the Israelites of the Bible" and then seems to make the bizarre claim that Jews are responsible for cancer and diseases in livestock. Most mainstream American Christians object to the attempt by white supremacists like Carto to link their fascist ideologies to the philosophy of Jesus, but there is undoubtedly a small minority who believe that Carto, his staff of writers, and the religious extremists who advertise within the pages of the AFP, have gotten it just right.


There is also a small banner ad near the bottom of the front page for tax protester organization the Free Enterprise Society. How could there not be? The AFP is a champion of numerous conspiracy theories, including income tax denial, but most notably the unsupported and totally refuted claim that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an inside job, planned and perpetrated, or at least consciously allowed by the United States government or some mysterious higher power still. Articles from the AFP are cited numerous times in Loose Change and by conspiracy delusionist Alex Jones in several of his hysterical documentaries.

The AFP has become so associated with the Alex Joneses of the world that other conspiracy theory organizations, mostly members of the 9/11 Truth Movement grasping at credibility, have disowned it. OilEmpire.Us, a 9/11 Truther website that characterizes the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon as an "American Reichstag fire," has a page devoted to the AFP that describes it as "an ultra-right-wing Holocaust denial publication," and blames the paper for propagating "One of the most absurd hoaxes yet floated to distract the 9/11 truth movement," namely "the claim that Flight 93 never existed."[3] When a website that claims John F. Kennedy was killed by the CIA as a "coup d'etat against democracy" wants nothing to do with your newspaper, you have gone too far.[4]

That doesn't bother Willis Carto, though, I'm sure. To an old Nazi like him, the sight of the 9/11 Truth Movement eating its own tail must be a familiar one. Following George Wallace's unsuccessful presidential bid in 1968, Carto took control of the Youth for Wallace organization and transformed it into the overtly racist National Youth Alliance. In a precursor to the death of Liberty Lobby at the hands of rival white supremacists, Carto lost control of the National Youth Alliance to fellow neo-fascist William Luther Pierce, who rechristened it the National Alliance and built it into the largest and most infamous neo-Nazi association in the country. If Carto, who is 81, lives long enough to overstay his welcome at the American Free Press, he may disappear for a few months, only to reemerge with yet another new and better outlet for his thinly-veiled National Socialism, racism, and conspiratorial rantings. One advantage of being a worm: there are always plenty of rocks to crawl under."

Those "survivors" should be ASHAMED of themselves for denigrating the work of Phil Tourney and everyone else--ESPECIALLY DARYL BRADFORD SMITH--trying desperately to teach the world about Israhell's false-flag against America USING UN-MARKED PLANES AND MURDERING OUR FUCKING SAILORS!!!!!!!  God DAMNED I am angry at this!  How DARE these people of the USS Liberty treat the people trying to HELP THEM like this.

I have said enough and I am going to cool-down.  I am genuinely angry at this betrayal of the deaths of OUR SAILORS by these "people."  I am SERIOUSLY holding-back how I feel about this.

 :evil:  :!:  :!:  :!: LINDSEY

[Free Truth]

The USS Liberty Memorial web site abhors the racist and extreme positions taken by antiSemitic, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theorist and other such groups which often seek to identify with us and to usurp our story as their own. We have no connection with and do not support or encourage support from any of these groups...

WTF!

Are they on the side of truth or not?
Do they want the truth or not!?

This doesn't hurt truth tellers--we'll keep telling the truth about what happened--it only hurts the ties of the people that decided to put that on the site to the true fighters for truth alive today.

They should be figgin' thankful!

There should be an ADL type of push to have that taken down.
Coward move by whoever wrote that.

[Rockclimber]

There are too many cowards in this world. I just have to believe that Ennis must be compromised in some way. He was the one who mentioned, on DBS's show I beleive, that the Israeli's were killing egyptian soldiers on the beach and they spotted them doing it the day of the attack correct? and then he turns into a coward. It's weird.

[Large Sarge]

Hey guys, lets not take this to personal ok?

focus on facts.

You have to remember that folks that understand the zionist conspiracy (DBS, Ben freedman, etc) are in perhaps the 3% club

whereas most folks get stuck with flypaper alex jones (the perhaps 8-10%)

now James Ennes likely got a full miltary retirement, and perhaps disability as well.

we can speculate on his motives, I listened to the original interview with DBS and Ennes, but it was quite awhile back.

one thing I do know, is that 90%+ of the time, DBS is light years ahead of his guests on zionism and such.

a guest of DBS might offer some insight into a particular event (U.S.S. liberty attack), but completely miss the big picture.

like when DBS had John Taylor Gatto on a few weeks ago, it was apprent that Gatto had never heard of the "flexnor brothers", but Gatto knew the school system made folks stupid, and easily controlled.

Gatto also had researched viable solutions.

see my point?

Most folks never follow it all the way home the same group of zionists...

Jame Ennes may just want his misery resolved with the Liberty attack, without confronting the "whole conspiracy"

my 2 cents

Sarge

[Large Sarge]

I thought of one other glaring example,

DBS had Bill Murphy on from GATA (this was way way back, in the early days)

well DBS and Bill agreed on the whole "gold suppression scheme", but as soon as DBS mentioned the protocols, and who is doing it, well old Bill just kind of froze up like a deer in the headlights.

Maybe its "cognitive dissonance" or its just years of being pressured to be "politically correct"

but I remembe rthat interview well, it was never resolved.

they both agreed it was happening, and DBS knew the perps... but murphy would never touch it.

all the best,
RB
"sarge"

[LordLindsey]

I thought of one other glaring example,

DBS had Bill Murphy on from GATA (this was way way back, in the early days)

well DBS and Bill agreed on the whole "gold suppression scheme", but as soon as DBS mentioned the protocols, and who is doing it, well old Bill just kind of froze up like a deer in the headlights.

Maybe its "cognitive dissonance" or its just years of being pressured to be "politically correct"

but I remembe rthat interview well, it was never resolved.

they both agreed it was happening, and DBS knew the perps... but murphy would never touch it.

all the best,
RB

Daryl NEVER MENTIONED THE PROTOCOLS in the version that is on his site now; that tells me that the audio was CENSORED because at one point Daryl says that they have an agreement not to mention certain issues around the middle of the interview.

http://iamthewitness.com/archive.php?dir=mp3%2F


"sarge"

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

"I" WROTE IT AND I STAND-BY THE TRUTH AS IT IS.  GET IT?  This was CENSORED-OUT of the original audio by Daryl.  I hate that; I don't care WHY it was done, it was done and that is a fact as "Sarge" said that he heard "The Protocols" mentioned.  

Are you insinuating that "I" am a liar?

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

That was a mistake in my doing the quote.  What are you trying to say?  

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

I STRONGLY suggest that Daryl or Ognir interview Phil Tourney; he has a show on RBN and can discuss why there are so many problems within the USS Liberty movement and what can be done about it.

LINDSEY

[Anonymous]

iamthewitness is determined to be a hate site by a rating co.
realjewnews is also got the same rating and has changed it's name to "realzionistnews.com" and is now unrated.
theinfounderground.com is as of now "unrated".
Jeff Rense is rated politics

[LordLindsey]

Look, we need to stop arguing with each other and work together from now on; I just don't like at all to have my honesty questioned because my honesty is something that I hold as very high importance to me...

Now...back to this issue with the audio...I can understand if Daryl was asked to remove the reference to The Protocols, but what bothers me is that OBVIOUSLY Sarge heard it from a recording, and now that it is back on the site in the archives, the reference and REACTION BY THE GUEST is removed.  I wanted to hear it because of the reaction, but all that I get on the audio is Daryl saying that they have an agreement to not discuss certain issues.  Look, let's move-on from this, but I just don't like audio files changed because the importance is taken away sometimes when that is done.

This is not something against Daryl, but I am saying exactly as a I feel about this.

Now.  I strongly recommend that Ognir get Phil Tourney on as a guest because Daryl has his plate full now, since he only does a show once-per-week.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

:lol:   I am wrong and I am sorry.  Really, I am.  Let's move on!

LINDSEY

NB:  Now...what do you think about having Phil Tourney on!?

[LordLindsey]

"Grandma Glenn" has NO relation to "Queen Esther Hufshmid" I just want to put on-the-record.   :lol:   Mark and Mike are NOT Hufschmid, and I hope that we can all agree on that.

LINDSEY

[Large Sarge]

hey guys, no need to argue on this, My memory is not what it used to be, so maybe I am mistaken.

but it does stick out, because it is one of the most glaring topics covered in the protocols,

I was also biased to it, because I was well aware of the GATA org, and knew they were telling the truth

here are the "gold" protocols

GOLD
7. In our day the power which has replaced that of the rulers who were liberal is the power of Gold. Time was when Faith ruled. The idea of freedom is impossible of realization because no one knows how to use it with moderation. It is enough to hand over a people to self-government for a certain length of time for that people to be turned into a disorganized mob. From that moment on we get internecine strife which soon develops into battles between classes, in the midst of which States burn down and their importance is reduced to that of a heap of ashes.

8. Whether a State exhausts itself in its own convulsions, whether its internal discord brings it under the power of external foes - in any case it can be accounted irretrievably lost: IT IS IN OUR POWER. The despotism of Capital, which is entirely in our hands, reaches out to it a straw that the State, willy-nilly, must take hold of: if not - it goes to the bottom.

9. Should anyone of a liberal mind say that such reflections as the above are immoral, I would put the following questions: If every State has two foes and if in regard to the external foe it is allowed and not considered immoral to use every manner and art of conflict, as for example to keep the enemy in ignorance of plans of attack and defense, to attack him by night or in superior numbers, then in what way can the same means in regard to a worse foe, the destroyer of the structure of society and the commonweal, be called immoral and not permissible?

10. Is it possible for any sound logical mind to hope with any success to guide crowds by the aid of reasonable counsels and arguments, when any objection or contradiction, senseless though it may be, can be made and when such objection may find more favor with the people, whose powers of reasoning are superficial? Men in masses and the men of the masses, being guided solely by petty passions, paltry beliefs, traditions and sentimental theorems, fall a prey to party dissension, which hinders any kind of agreement even on the basis of a perfectly reasonable argument. Every resolution of a crowd depends upon a chance or packed majority, which, in its ignorance of political secrets, puts forth some ridiculous resolution that lays in the administration a seed of anarchy.

11. The political has nothing in common with the moral. The ruler who is governed by the moral is not a skilled politician, and is therefore unstable on his throne. He who wishes to rule must have recourse both to cunning and to make-believe. Great national qualities, like frankness and honesty, are vices in politics, for they bring down rulers from their thrones more effectively and more certainly than the most powerful enemy. Such qualities must be the attributes of the kingdoms of the GOYIM, but we must in no wise be guided by them.