Ammo shortage: Gun Grabber End-Run

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Ammo shortage: Gun Grabber End-Run
Posted on March 17, 2009 by sharprightturn

UPDATE:  More at Confederate Yankee

UPDATE: Apparently, this  issue has been resolved with the help of two Senators and a straightening out of DOD bureaucracy.  See GBS comments below.

While Bill Maher blames ammo sales on racism, those doing their homework have discovered what may be the cause for more ammo shortages....apparently the DOD is cancelling contracts for expended military brass to weapons manufacturers.

What will this essentially do? It will make materials harder to get for ammo production and ammo will become more expensive...thus making consumer ammuniton in short supply and expensive.

Here is what they had to say at The Shootist, who has a run down on this recent finding:

    Now it has come clear...now we know what they intend to do.

    It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns–they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit "assault" weapon sales.

    Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.

The rest of the post by The Shootist:

    Think we jest?

    Here are copies of two letters sent to Georgia Arms just Thursday evening–effectively cancelling a contract he had to purchase 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, 7.62mm, and .50 caliber:

    Dear Valued Customer:

    Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:
    Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.
    Thank you,
    DOD Surplus
    15051 N Kierland Blvd # 300
    Scottsdale, AZ 85254

    March 12, 2009

    Larry Haynie
    Georgia Arms
    PO Box 238
    Villa Rica, GA 30180
    Re: Event 7084-6200:
    Dear Larry Haynie,

    Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction. Mutilation of the property can be done at the DRMO, if permitted by the Government, or it may be mutilated at a site chosen by the buyer. Mutilation means that the property will be destroyed to the extent prevents its reuse or reconstruction. DOD Surplus personnel will determine when property has been sufficiently mutilated to meet the requirements of the Government.
    If you do not agree with the new conditions of your spot sale, please sign the appropriate box provided below stating that you do not agree to the new terms and would like to cancel your purchase effective immediately. If you do agree to the new terms please sign in the appropriate box provided below to acknowledge your understanding and agreement with the new requirements relating to your purchase. Fax the signed document back to (480) 367-1450, emailed responses are not acceptable.

    Please respond to this request no later than close of business Monday, March 16th, 2009.

    Sincerely,

    Government Liquidation.

    Got that? From now on, remanufacturers of military brass will not be able to buy surplus brass from DOD–actually from Government Liquidators, llc.–the corporation that sells surplus materials for the U.S. government. At least, not in any form recognizable as once-fired brass ammunition.

    Now all brass ammunition will have to be shredded, and sold as scrap.

    Georgia Arms, who brought this to our attention, is the 5th largest ammunition manufacturer of centerfire pistol and rifle ammunition in the U.S.

    "We're right up there behind Hornady," Larry Haynie told me.

    He also told me with the cancellation of his contract to purchase this brass, and the ending of his ability to purchase any more expended military ammunition, he will have to severely curtail his operation–laying off approximately half his 60-person work force.

    Haynie further pointed out this move is a stupendous waste of taxpayer money–reducing the worth of the brass some 80%–from casings, to shredded bulk brass.

    He stated most of this will now go to foundries where it will be melted down, cast in shippable forms, and likely be sold to China, one of the largest purchasers of U.S. metals on the open market.

    Haynie was manufacturing over 1 million rounds of .223 ammunition every month, which he sold on the civilian market to resellers, and to law enforcement agencies across the country.

    He will start tomorrow sending cancellations of orders for .223 to law enforcement agencies all over the country.

    You can expect this to affect every bullet you purchase in the future–with no reloaded ammunition available, the already strained new manufacturers will be unable to meet demand. They are already turning out everything they can build for the military market. The civilian market is stressed to the point even reloading components have become hard to find.

    Now, with this hit, ammunition prices will go through the roof in the next year.

    Your quality piece, sitting in your gun rack, will become a very expensive wood and steel, or plastic and steel club.

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kolnidre

High-power crossbows are pretty potent weapons.

Or maybe it's worth putting together an armory of poison-tipped darts, like the savages in Gilligan's Island used.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

gurdgieff

I just read the name Bill Maher I couldnt read any more.I hate Bill Maher.Bill Maher wake up the sadist in me when I see him.what an annoying irritating prick.
Bill Maher really upsets me.I cant bare it dont know why.
Just One of those things.

jai_mann

That policy change where they were going to stop selling brass to resalers was halted when the word got out and shit loads of people raised hell. To the best of my knowledge they will continue selling used brass to bulk wholesalers. I got more than enough brass if TSHTF and more than enough reloaded and ready to go =). Things will get hairy in a hurry given the past record of these occultists. Too bad for them that plenty of people have figured out who to be concerned with when things get bad.

Other things that will need to be built up regionally from the ground up (other than brass, because brass will EVENTUALLY need to be made new) are: Primers, powders, bullets.

I plan on investing in a small CNC setup to pump out spare gun parts and maybe bullets but that's down the road. I would like to even build my own guns (all legal to do if you do most of the work yourself- look up 60% gun kits where you complete the other 40%) Foundry work is also needed. People need to stop recycling with their counties because all our metals are getting smelted and shipped to China and then resold to us. It's fucking ridiculous. Melting cans into blocks would allow for cutting needed metal objects (bullets, knives, other sharp pointy things, etc.).

CrackSmokeRepublican

Actually Muzzle Loaders can be acquired without a license.

C & R  (Curio & Relics) can be acquired with a limited US BATF license.
They have alot of milsurp weapons available from the last three wars: WWI, WWII, Cold War
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan