WTC 7 - Important footage + DEBATE

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Tower 7 - Important footage + DEBATE

 Hi !

I notized this youtube channel  "representativepress"  when looking at DBS the french connection's links.
http://www.youtube.com/user/representativepress

What a surprise, "representativepress" is  "NOT" a supporter of the 911 truth movement but Denies it. At the same time "representativepress" is Against Israel policies.
Efter taking a look to some of "therepresentativepress"'s 911 video-clips (some links under here), I found that I have never ever seen in the past  any of those important videos filmed under the 911 day. Can it be a possibility that, when "Alex Infiltrator Jones" and  so many other infiltrators in the movement, that they -the infiltrators- are gonna try at any cost to feed us with so much desinformation as possible ?  Take a look to the firemen saying that WTC 7 is at risk of collapse, or at the helicopter when they were commenting that the tower was leaning ?  Do anyone recall Alex Jones showing/talking about those ? I mean, even IF I think 911 was a MOSAD/CIA/MI6 conspiracy, it feels uneasy not to be familiar with ALL of the important 911 video-clips and at the same time mistakenly BELIEVING myself to know most of the relevant  911 video-clips been out there.
0K, what all of this can mean ? That when we are repeating information from Alex Jones, Rense, and so on, we are at big risk of repeating lies mix with truths, NO knowing where & what the desinfo IS. Big mistake ! For example Richard Gage (AIA, of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth) should know better, something smell fishy here. Who financed Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth ?

So, 911 can still be the conspiracy that it seems to be, but the risk is very high that when debating others about it, that WE -not knowing all the facts- appears being silly and ignorants i e when confronted with such 911 footage (and here I am talking about the 911 footage in the videos under and NOT the "representativepress"  conclusions) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn96gG7biTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSFCv9GoWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10YTDOdyju0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf7Z_I1CAZ4


We don't know all the 911 facts because we had based so much of the information coming through Alex Jones, Eric Hufschmid, Rense and so many more as 100 % relibible. that MUST STOP. We know for sure that Rothschild's agent SOROS was financing the 911 desinfo, so, what should we then expect, other than hidden lies inside the mix of "information" ?

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So I propose, when conspiracy investigations :

- Do always the research by yourself, and have always some critical approach to the issues.
- Take a look even to the 911 debunking pages, is important to know how the debate goes in "the other side".
- Be very careful when accessing material from INFOWARS, RENSE ETC. Check the REAL sources, don't stop just at the article.
- Try always testing some debate around aspects been believed as been bullet proof. Check and recheck. LISTEN what people has to say.
- Keep diferents conspiracies apart, even if you think they are connect. When i e trying to explain someone about The Federal Reserve System avoid going into Chemtrails or Designed Virus/Pandemics etc, normal/rookies peoples paradigm/mind are indoctrinated to the degree that they CAN*T TAKE the whole as a big piece and disbelieve appears. IF you want anyway to tell about the connections, try at least to put first a more solid ground on the theories before expanding it into the BIG PICTURE.
- You don't need to reach EVERYONE, put your energy to talk with people who WANNA listen, use the Internet, don't be FANATIC/FATALIST/DESPAIR, if you talk calm, people is gonna listen in a better mood to what you have to say. Spare your family, even your friends, if you noticed that they don't really wanna listen, use the Internet to spread the information and communicate with people and do the exchange of ideas.
- Try always to ask Who ? Not just When or How or Where.
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Desinfo agents are very damaging, take for example Missing links :

http://www.911missinglinks.com/

Even if the information in that movie is great, first they force you -the visitor to the page- to listen to Eric  Hufschmid. Then, when you try to promote the 911 Missing Links film, the fact still is that the documentary was done by a "Skinhead wannabe" (Mike Delaney) and a Black NAZI/exSatanist (John Alan Martinson Jr). Is that gonna help the movement ? Sure not. You see, the agenda of all this is to put a BAD NAME on those who are asking and telling the ZION connection to 911. This is very tuff one, I know.

Greeting !

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[memory hole]

Even if the information in that movie is great, first they force you -the visitor to the page- to listen to Eric Hufschmid. Then, when you try to promote the 911 Missing Links film, the fact still is that the documentary was done by a "Skinhead wannabe" (Mike Delaney) and a Black NAZI/exSatanist (John Alan Martinson Jr). Is that gonna help the movement ? Sure not. You see, the agenda of all this is to put a BAD NAME on those who are asking and telling the ZION connection to 911. This is very tuff one, I know.

couldn't agree more, theres no way thats a coincidence.  Thats why i never promote that film anywhere, instantly gives the information a murky cloud of Nazi lovers, freaks and lunatics.

Well said.

[abduLMaria]

i don't know about "representative press".

my previous introduction to the subject was the week of September 11, when one of the profs. at a Demolition & Mining School in New Mexico was interviewed and stated that "it looks an awful lot like a demolition to me" - speaking of the collapse of WTC 1 & 2.

he then promptly reversed himself and had another public interview.

whatever doubt i had was laid to rest in 2005-2006, when I met Jim Hoffman and heard his detailed technical presentation a few times.  his website is
http://911research.wtc7.net/

one of the most compelling ways to understand the collapse of the buildings is to do some metal-working that involves melting steel, silver, gold.  i have a little experience welding steel and a lot of experience working with silver and gold.

the bottom line is, it's VERY difficult to melt steel.

i have a kiln that i recently tried to melt some gold in.  the kiln takes about 1500 watts and has fire-bricks and everything, the inside is the size of a soccer ball.  the thermometer goes up to 2000 but the max. for the kiln at this point is about 1600.  it might be able to melt silver, it didn't melt the gold, and the exercise reminded me of how hard it is to melt steel.

to make a long story short, you need a blast furnace or a torch to melt steel for industrial purposes.

you cannot melt steel using a fire.  you can barely melt silver using a fire.  that was part of my metal-working education, doing jewelry casting using a campfire, experimenting with pine (softwood) vs. oak (hardwood).  it's fun to do if the smoke doesn't get to you.  again, that's silver - using a roaring fire that is as hot as you can possibly make it, you will be lucky if  can melt a quarter pound of silver.

long story short, fire does not melt steel.  unless you consider a blast furnace fire.

as far as fire weakening steel - it takes a very hot fire to weaken it.  i used a steel frame to hold the steel mold parts when i was fooling around with this technology.  i noticed a small amount of bending in some of my steel parts from the hottest fire.

what i noticed in the 9-11 building fire was a lot of smoke - which is not the sign of a hot burning fire.

[jai_mann]

Even if the information in that movie is great, first they force you -the visitor to the page- to listen to Eric Hufschmid. Then, when you try to promote the 911 Missing Links film, the fact still is that the documentary was done by a "Skinhead wannabe" (Mike Delaney) and a Black NAZI/exSatanist (John Alan Martinson Jr). Is that gonna help the movement ? Sure not. You see, the agenda of all this is to put a BAD NAME on those who are asking and telling the ZION connection to 911. This is very tuff one, I know.

couldn't agree more, theres no way thats a coincidence.  Thats why i never promote that film anywhere, instantly gives the information a murky cloud of Nazi lovers, freaks and lunatics.

Well said.

That was a great summary of the situation. I haven't relied upon their work but I have seen missing links. I did a little background research on JAM and thought the mention of being an ex-Satanist completely unnecessary. Then the Promotion of white nationalism was another red flag. Someone intelligent enough to put together that information should also be intelligent enough to COMPREHEND that the majority attitude of the masses will REJECT the his attitude towards Nazism and quite possibly every thing else that he espouses. There have been decades of attitude conditioning toward "nazi's" so a strong reaction should be expected. This reaction gets paired with the info that they talk about and emotion driven people will react to 9/11 "conspiracy" talk the same way they would react to Nazi's.

You can tell a lot about some one by the company they keep and the image they promote...

[AbdulHaq]

The voice of the cat speaking in the representativepress videos sounds very kosher( stereotypical oy vey whiney khazarian).I nerver heard a non-chosenite speak like that.

[kolnidre]

The voice of the cat speaking in the representativepress videos sounds very kosher( stereotypical oy vey whiney khazarian).I nerver heard a non-chosenite speak like that.

Well, it's a New York/New Jersey accent, but hard to tell if it' "kosher." Whatever the case, if he's taken a look at the evidece surrounding 9/11 and thinks it was done by hijackers he's either not very intelligent or he's disinfo. Seems to me what he's all about is claiming that US policy toward Israel and Israel's influence on US policy (inseparable, of course) causes "them" to hate us. Its the Numb Chimpsky school of Middle Eastern affairs, which holds that Israhell is a bulwark of Anglo-American hegemony in the region. To some extent it does operate along those lines, but the tail has been wagging the dog for a long time. Plus, that angle ignores global Zionist influence, which projects itself on Israhell but penetrates nearly all countries and regions. All it takes to see that is a good look at the influence and role of "international Jews" in the events of the 19th and 20th centuries prior to the foundation of Ersatz Israhell.

[celticwarrior]

We are not afraid to tell the truth about who was responsible for 911: the CIA-Mossad-MI6 nexus of evil, all the strategically-placed minions, henchmen and innumerable witting and unwitting goyim manipulated and orchestrated for the  benefit of the satanic, Talmudic elite and the furtherance of their goal for world supremacy:
http://www.bollyn.com/index.php

[maz]

Representative press is about 99% correct, this 9/11 denial is typical of the hard left and their ilk. They can't admit to Osama being dead because their argument hinges in the 9/11 testimony of the officials claiming that US policy was the cause of the attacks and that Osama was just getting revenge. They think that people who say that 9/11 was a false flag (by anyone) is a distraction to the anti-war movement.

[§N9sh2bj]

I'll ask my buddy in the cave next door if he knows.

one of the most compelling ways to understand the collapse of the buildings is to do some metal-working that involves melting steel, silver, gold.  i have a little experience welding steel and a lot of experience working with silver and gold.

Ah but metalwork is not taught as part of the standard classes in U.S.-corporate High Schools any more. Last time I was at a U.S. High School was about eight years ago. Seven bays for car repairs in a dedicated garage. The course leader was the only teacher left. And of his children to watch and teach, he either had bright ones he barely needed to teach anything to, or several with 'behavioural problems'. Similar scenarios with the welding classes, if there were any. The younger people now have such limited applied experience to be setup to believe most of Jankel Wernek's book 'One Year in Treblinka', if they can find a copy.