YouTube experiment: Trying to convert AJ fans - JOIN NOW!

MikeWB · August 21, 2009, 11:22:50 PM

I did an experiment this morning. I went on YT, created an account and then proceeded to AJ channel and went through comments and sent a message to AJ fans and detractors as well. I sent about 30 messages. I received 5 replies so far. 2 negative, 3 positive. I'm sure I'l get more replies over the weekend since most people don't check YouTube every day.

I timed exactly how long it took me to do this task. It took me 1min and 45 seconds.

Here's what I did.

1) Typed Alex Jones into search on YT.
2) Opened 1st video.
3) Opened each of the commenter's profile in the new tab.
4) Clicked on "Send Message"
5) Cut/pasted subject and body of the message and clicked send.

Message:

QuoteSubject: Saw your comment about Alex Jones...

Hi friend,

Saw your post under AJ video so here's something that you should look into:

Summary of what happened to the Truth Movement. It shows the split that's occurring:
http://waronyou.com/topics/fractures-in-the-truth-movement/

Alex Jones' wife, Kelly "Violet" Nichols is Jewish (which means that Alex's kids are Jewish and the whole family can go and live in Israel):
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5878

All of the Alex Jones' major advertisers are Jewish:
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5900

Alex Jones is now on XM Radio which is owned by Mel Karmazin who's Jewish and a major donor to ADL:
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6327

Alex Jones recently bought a $700,000+ house in a GATED community and a speed boat and yet he is begging for money all the time. His lawyer is Jewish and an expert in dual-citizenship and repatriation to Israel (among other places) and also has Bronfman (head of Zionism in US) connections: http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/round2.htm
http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/family.htm (especially this page).

Please, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and don't trust this message! Do YOUR OWN research and confirm to yourself that this information is true.

Then decide about for WHOM does Alex Jones really work and start questioning him!

Friend.

PS: Please copy & paste this message and PASS it along to your friends and supporters of Alex Jones and PLEASE call into Alex Jones' show and ask him why he is hiding these facts from his supporters! CALL IN and ask him why he spent all the money that his listeners sent him on a speed boat and a new house! Ask him why he's hiding the fact that his wife is Jewish and whether he's moving to Israel! CALL IN!!!

Some replies:

Quoteso because his wife is a jew... he is a zionist shill?? wow seriously that is pathetic....

because he says "see my weiner" in reversed speech, he is an "agent"??

because he tries to protect his name from being accused of murdering someone???

seriously those arguments are pathetic and i will not pass them along at all!

QuoteYes without checking i think that information is probably true. I have had suspicions about alex jones for awhile now. At first i though wow this man is a true and awesome truther, but then as time went on i noticed little things like if callers would bring up certain things he would quickly cut them off, then demoralize and belittle them without even listening to all they had to say even though he is fighting for freedom of speech. Not to mention the time he posted the story on his website about the hidden camera in the tv converter box that turned out to be fake, He put that story on his page as soon as it came on youtube without even investigating it, i thought that was a little idiotic. Then came the big wake up when i seen a video where bill cooper exposed alex's fearmongering Y2k broadcast, that was something else. But i will admit i still do watch and listen to alex sometimes, i just nip pic the story's i find to be true with my own research, he is good for some info. And lastly the fact that Bill Cooper was the first to predict 9-11, very acurately even using bin ladens name which i thought was outstanding research on his part obviously, then alex stole his prediction just slightly twisting his words so it wouldnt look like he stole it from bill, also the fact that Cooper in my oppinion was murdered, and alex is still bashing the hell out of the government and is still alive and well. Although that could be do to the fact of his popularity, you know the whole marter thing. Well its a shame that no one can be trusted anymore because the government wants it that way just like nazi germany. Well thanks for the info i will indeed pass it on and sorry for the bad grammer lol.

Quoteyour correct, on all your points. i chose to describe the video like that so it would be more controversial and get more views and comments. would it make you and the alex-jones-a-zionist crowd happy if he just had one show based upon criticizing zionism ? or what about if jason bermas dedicated a show to talking about zionism.

QuoteInteresting....
Alex Jones has a Jewish wife? OMG....BFD. Really who cares? What does that have to do with anything?
Jewish advertisers? So what?
XM radio? Yes I know that . What's wrong with more exposure to what is going on?
Gated community? That's okay with me I'd live in one if I could afford it! He seems to work hard & I believe that those are the rewards that go with hard work.
I do my own research on everything he says. There have only been a few times where the info is exaggerated or slightly off.
He covers things you don't see in the mainstream media that is controlled by a handful of corporations. What's wrong with another view?

I think this is a great way to convert more people to our point of view. Why? Well, for several reasons:

1) These are the people that know that government lies to them and they know that there is a lot of deception out there so they're open to new ideas.

2) Since they're open to conspiracies already, it's easier to expose them to the crimes of Zios than to convert someone else who believes in the current system.

3) It undermines Alex Jones's user base and brings doubt and uncertainty to into his core membership who will hopefully now be able to see what AJ is doing. I think this is the best point: best way to destroy him is to educate his core members and let them take him down.

4) It brings more people to TiU.

I think we should all here make it a daily routine to send at least 10 messages like this on social sites (YT being the easiest).

If each one of us sends 10 messages each day, that's over 200 messages each day. Let's assume that 10% of people who receive the message pass it along, that means that 220 messages are sent per day. After two weeks, we can reach over 3000 people. That means that we can bring more members here and we can reach some people who are critical to AJ's success in viral promotion of videos. One of those people will hopefully then spread the message even further by making videos about this and will maybe even make a call to AJ's show and confront him. We need to 'infect' only a small percentage of his fan base to be effective.

Thoughts? Opinions? Can you improve the message? LET'S START DOING THIS GUYS! IT WORKS PRETTY WELL! All we need is 2 min of your time!

PS: Good places to start at:
http://www.youtube.com/TheAlexJonesChannel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=fvst

thirdeyewise · August 21, 2009, 11:33:40 PM

i am sure you realize some of those people you messaged are probably employees whose job is to prop up jones and could care
less about truth. also, maybe you should keep the word Jew out of it altogether, it's like cryptonite to some.

good strategy and "A" for effort, keep it up!

MikeWB · August 21, 2009, 11:37:41 PM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"i am sure you realize some of those people you messaged are probably employees whos job is to prop up jones and could care
less about truth. also, maybe you should keep the word Jew out of it altogether, it's like cryptonite to some.

good strategy and "A" for effort, keep it up!

Right. I'm sure it can be done better. I spent maybe 5 min crafting this message. Feel free to take a stab at it and PLEASE start sending them on YT

I'm sure YT has a limit on how many messages a person can send per day so a one person cannot do it all.

Maybe a good first message would be to expose Alex as a money grabbing fool who only cares about making himself richer. Maybe a message about his new house and a speed boat would be enough.

Main thing here is that we need to TEST it! We need to craft a message, send it to 20 people and then wait for replies. If we do this with 5-10 different messages, we'll know what works. The message that brings in the most positive replies will be the one that we send in massive numbers.

scorpio · August 22, 2009, 02:27:49 AM

Good idea.
AJ: the exaggerator, the liar, BSer
He needs to be exposed.

Ognir · August 22, 2009, 02:41:49 AM

Good idea

Rockclimber · August 22, 2009, 03:03:46 AM

Nice! Will give this a try tomorrow MIke, good work.

MikeWB · August 22, 2009, 06:22:03 PM

Come on guys, let's start doing this! If you send any messages, PLEASE post in this thread! It takes under 2min of your time to do this!

This is 10x more important than posting to forums which can get taken down at any time.

START EDUCATING HIS FOLLOWERS SO THEY TAKE HIM FROM THE INSIDE!

MikeWB · August 23, 2009, 02:07:16 AM

My current message. Sent about 30 today.

QuoteHi,

Did you know that Alex Jones bought a $725,000 house (in a gated community none the less) and a $30,000 speed boat while begging for money and donations from his listeners? Remember the InfoBomb? And did you know that he's trying to hide all that by banning people from PrisonPlanet forums and his YouTube channel?

Want to learn the truth? See what one of his former HUGE fans, Lorie Kramer, a woman from Texas, discovered about the man: http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/round2.htm

Looks to me like Alex works for the same elite he berates on his show every day.

I hope someone calls into his show and asks him about things that Lorie writes about. Lorie's a true patriot and is not in it for the money like Hollywood Jones.

Bless you,
Mike

No Jews, no Zionists mentioned... just the money. It's something that they can all understand easily.

I wish there was a better link to pass around though... don't like the reverse speech crap on that page.

Who else is doing it??? COME ON GUYS! 2 MIN OF YOUR TIME! BETTER TIME INVESTMENT THAN POSTING ELSEWHERE!

MikeWB · August 23, 2009, 02:16:11 AM

The guy who was extremely negative in my reply (the last reply posted in 1st post above) replied to my reply to him in which I asked him about the Zios in the government.

QuoteI never knew that Rham Emmanuel served the Isreali Army. But Im not surprised, the U.S. and the Israeli State have worked together in terms of military and diplomatic issues.

So your saying that the Jews control this world more than the banking elite? They are the ones who are forging this NWO?

"so you're going to take in in the ass and just give up? wow!"

I firmly believe that a violent revolution will bring disaster. The times of 1776 and now are quite different. The establishment would crush anyone in terms of military strategy. The New World Order will fight the people who fight back.Those are the ones that will be sent into the FEMA camps.

As long as worldly governments don't suppress divine laws, then I will subdue myself to them.

But we know that the NWO indeed will supress divine laws, and when that happens, I will not submit to them and I will wait for Jehovah to fight his battle.

I sent him a series of questions and links on who really owns the Fed and who the banking elite are.

He's waking up too!

I'm telling you guys... AJ cultists aren't that hard to wake up at all. All you need to do is plant some seeds of doubt in them and point them towards truth. they wake up quickly.

Rockclimber · August 23, 2009, 02:29:55 AM

Quote from: "MikeWB"The guy who was extremely negative in my reply (the last reply posted in 1st post above) replied to my reply to him in which I asked him about the Zios in the government.

QuoteI never knew that Rham Emmanuel served the Isreali Army. But Im not surprised, the U.S. and the Israeli State have worked together in terms of military and diplomatic issues.

So your saying that the Jews control this world more than the banking elite? They are the ones who are forging this NWO?

"so you're going to take in in the ass and just give up? wow!"

I firmly believe that a violent revolution will bring disaster. The times of 1776 and now are quite different. The establishment would crush anyone in terms of military strategy. The New World Order will fight the people who fight back.Those are the ones that will be sent into the FEMA camps.

As long as worldly governments don't suppress divine laws, then I will subdue myself to them.

But we know that the NWO indeed will supress divine laws, and when that happens, I will not submit to them and I will wait for Jehovah to fight his battle.

I sent him a series of questions and links on who really owns the Fed and who the banking elite are.

He's waking up too!

I'm telling you guys... AJ cultists aren't that hard to wake up at all. All you need to do is plant some seeds of doubt in them and point them towards truth. they wake up quickly.

Damn Mike...again good work!

AbdulHaq · August 24, 2009, 01:45:18 AM

Bravo

thirdeyewise · August 24, 2009, 01:48:11 AM

i am not going to lie, i dislike Alex Jones followers almost as much as i do the vatican / black pope freaks. They end up giving me a headache and i don't
need any more stress. One thing i have done, if i see they have Alex Jones and Adrian Salbuchi both on their Youtube page i will ask them why an
articulate speaker like Salbuchi never returned to talk on alex's show, then i give them a quick spill about him not being asked back because he spoke too honestly.

then i leave them a link of salbuchi's appearances on iamthewitness:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/inde ... albuchi%2F

if they can't figure it after that........fuckem!!!

thirdeyewise · August 24, 2009, 06:46:14 AM

well, it sort of worked. the guy who i left the message for said he would play along so i gave him some info
and explained it to him in the most "easy to understand" way....i wrote:

actually this is not a GAME, this is life or DEATH.
you want to play, go find some else or keep listen to Jones.
i asked you a question before, why do you think salbuchi has not been on the Alex Jones show again. i gave you some audio links,
did you listen to them, they talk about it in the audio.

i am going to ask you another question. if the person you are listening to can not
even give you basic truths then how can you trust him with anything else.
if the statements in the last attached video and the links on the side prove Bermas to
be a liar, then why would you think the rest of what he tells you is not also a lie?

and this was his reply:

"Sounds like a bunch of anti-semitic crapola to me. So the people who run Hollywood are mostly jewish, who cares? I don't care if they are tiny blue men from the planet Zoink in the Narf Nebula. As long as they spread propaganda and lies to further the globalist elite agenda, they are bad people and should be put in jail. But it still has nothing to do with their color, religion or race. All of these people wear suits too, most have glasses, is there a suit wearing glasses people conspiracy too, lol?

And I know jews who are very good people. It's just the small minority of extremist zionists that people should be worried about. Just like they should be worried about fundamentalist christians and islamofascist extremists, and all other crazies out there who think that their way is the only way and force their beliefs on other people.

Jones and Bermas have criticized those who run Hollywood, and especially the mainstream media, and also the zionist leadership of Israel, on numerous occasions. This would be apparent if you have watched Alex Jones' show for a year or two. But they don't want to focus on that too much because A) it's irrelevant and B) it would label them as racists, thus discouraging people from learning the truth.

This in-fighting in the truth movement is useless, distracting and exactly what the gloablists want. Divide and conquer. Even if you don't like Alex Jones you should stop focusing on him, IGNORE HIM if you must, and project your energy towards the real issues and the truth."

these people have some warped reasoning for everything, that's why i don't even bother, they are so brainwashed it's pathetic and sickening!!!

btw, his youtube name is KOPYMEH

MikeWB · August 24, 2009, 03:31:04 PM

Don't argue. Just read the responses and modify your message to fit their objections.

Goal is to saw the seeds of doubt so they start questioning him more. That will be enough to undermine his credibility among his most faithful of followers.

Remember, Alex Jones is not just a radio talk show host, he's a preacher and a cult leader. You cannot deprogram his cult members that easily. It takes time. Best is to introduce doubt and let their curiosity take the its toll. Eventually things will start connecting for them. Just point them in the right direction with the messages I posted above.

thirdeyewise · August 24, 2009, 03:54:34 PM

that's the problem it takes time and patience neither of which i have. do you think if this guy depends on bermas for his information and
he gets a video showing bermas to be a liar and the guys response is "so what", do you think i am going to waste an extra second on this moron.
he just finished admitting he does not care if his version of the truth is not completely accurate..............wow!

i'll be taking a piece of his own advice:
"Even if you don't like Alex Jones you should stop focusing on him, IGNORE HIM if you must, and project your energy towards the real issues and the truth."

why don't you take it from here, i have no patience for the matter:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KOPYMEH

CrackSmokeRepublican · August 24, 2009, 08:43:51 PM

Nice Fighting Mike!

MikeWB · August 24, 2009, 09:59:45 PM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"that's the problem it takes time and patience neither of which i have. do you think if this guy depends on bermas for his information and
he gets a video showing bermas to be a liar and the guys response is "so what", do you think i am going to waste an extra second on this moron.
he just finished admitting he does not care if his version of the truth is not completely accurate..............wow!

i'll be taking a piece of his own advice:
"Even if you don't like Alex Jones you should stop focusing on him, IGNORE HIM if you must, and project your energy towards the real issues and the truth."

why don't you take it from here, i have no patience for the matter:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KOPYMEH

Our number one issue is gaining more numbers and wakeing up more people to the real reality wrt to Zionism. To do that, we need to reach way more people than we are reaching now. Just look at our forums... we're not getting thousands of people like some other conspiracy forums are. Biggest conspiracy forums are TopSecret and PrisonPlanet. The biggest conspiracy guy out there is AJ. We've all here been AJ fans at some point and he seems to be converting a large number of people to his own reality. One way for us to gain more people is to somehow convert AJ fans into fully-woken people: people that recognize the influence of Zionism.

Our current numbers are small and the material that our best guys are producing (Og & DBS radio shows) are mostly reaching our established audience who don't need any waking up.

Imagine if those WeAreChange chumps started going after Zios and bankers and started asking them about Israeli ties? What do you think that would do to the rest? People would lose fear of being called anti-semites.

The best way to reach these AJ people, people who are already open to conspiracies and lies of others, is to expose them to AJ lies and his lies through omission. Then they will start chatting among themselves and will realize when AJ lies and hides things from them.

To do this, you don't have to engage these guys and argue! What I've been doing is:

1) Send an email about AJ's new house and speed boat and a link to AJM website.
2) If they reply, no matter what the message is, I send them the second email (the one with AJ's jewish wife etc).

That's it. That's all you should be doing. Don't go into diatribes and arguments about stuff. Let their own curiosity take over. Deprograming people from cults takes MONTHS of intensive work! We don't have the time for that. Just saw the seeds of doubt in their minds and their very own curiosity will guide them to the truth!

seektress · August 24, 2009, 11:47:22 PM

Quote from: "MikeWB"My current message. Sent about 30 today.
No Jews, no Zionists mentioned... just the money. It's something that they can all understand easily.

I wish there was a better link to pass around though... don't like the reverse speech crap on that page.

Who else is doing it??? COME ON GUYS! 2 MIN OF YOUR TIME! BETTER TIME INVESTMENT THAN POSTING ELSEWHERE!

Well gee, Mike...I just flat didn't know I was making the page for YOU!!! I thought I was chronicling my personal, and yes therefore subjective, experience regarding the truth about Jeff Rense getting forced off GCN and the profit from patriots machine involved with direct connections to MSM control agents.
Silly me.
If you are not able to say the word zionist where it is applicable and understand what the group is about, and that it has nothing to do with true Judaism, you will NEVER get it. As far as I'm concerned THAT'S crap! That's how THEY are controlling YOU...because they have made you afraid to even say their name.

A better link. The pages have documents from the office of the Secretary of state of the state of Texas. I have given first person eye witness testimony regarding the events. You find me the BETTER link, it's not happening. Devi Kidd said I did a "bang-up job connecting the dots". I'll take that over your lame attempt at critiquing the site any day, thanks anyway.

As far as the reverse speech thing goes..I already addressed that here..grow a sense of adventure and learn about something new.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7049&p=27639#p27639

I'll ask you...using your own question...who else is doing it?

MikeWB · August 25, 2009, 12:17:18 AM

Lori, I think that reverse speech stuff is just a giant nonsense that Rense pushes. I also think that all that ghost stuff and supernatural of all kinds is nonsense as well. Don't take that personally!

I've been pushing your page for days and I've been getting some great feedback but that reverse speech stuff is what puts off most of the people. They come to that part and they completely dismiss everything and say the whole thing is nonsense. That's the biggest objection that people have. Your court and county documents are amazing and you're right, no one is doing it! I haven't seen that info anywhere else. SOme people reposted it on some sites but clearly, all that came from you.

As for makign a better page, could you create a page along the lines of: alexjonesmachine.com/truth and have more or less the same content but without reverse speech stuff on it?

Also, a better intro would do wonders. Something personal from you... like:

"Hello stranger,
Thank you for visiting my site. Please allow me to briefly introduce myself and to quickly explain to you why I created this site. I used to be friends with Alex (insert a pic of you two here) but I discovered something that changed everything. Want to know the truth? Are you ready to see how deep the rabbit hole goes? Are you ready to take the red pill? If yes, start reading Chapter 1." 3 paragraphs of intro at the most.

This is called a "landing page" and shows people a taste what they will find in the rest of the pages. It entices them to read more! A pic of you and Alex proves that you're not some angry person or a nutjob but you actually are a member of the patriot movement and you are on the inside.

I think we could reach thousands of people with stuff like this! This type of stuff is very powerful and a lot of marketers use these methods to reach more people.

thirdeyewise · August 25, 2009, 12:34:15 AM

hey mike, i'm kind of interested to see if you can "hook, line and sinker" the kopymeh link. are you going to give it a try?

MikeWB · August 25, 2009, 12:59:21 AM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"hey mike, i'm kind of interested to see if you can "hook, line and sinker" the kopymeh link. are you going to give it a try?

Did you read what I said? Ignore him and move on! There's thousands of other rational people who will listen and you'll reach with first try. Don't waste your time on a single guy!!!!!! Just continue blasting the message and 10% or more will get it

Spend 2 min/day on blasting the message and we'll reach more people than just posting stuff on this forum that's read by people who don't need any convincing.

evanlong · September 01, 2009, 01:33:53 AM

Quote from: "MikeWB"Remember, Alex Jones is not just a radio talk show host, he's a preacher and a cult leader. You cannot deprogram his cult members that easily. It takes time. Best is to introduce doubt and let their curiosity take the its toll. Eventually things will start connecting for them. Just point them in the right direction with the messages I posted above.

I think lots of little anti-AJ videos, which would also include pro-TIU info, scattered all over YT (and the other video sites) would be at least as effective.

EDIT: Another AJ tidbit -- some of his books and videos since at least 2007 have been published by the Disinformation Company. Disinfo's media has a particular focus on magick and the occult and the company's logo is a horned human head. To illustrate further, the 2000 Disinfo kickoff event, Disinfocon, was headlined by none other than Satanists Kenneth Anger and Marilyn Manson, sex magickian Kenneth Grant and Robert Anton Wilson. So what's Mr. "Christian Super-Patriot" doing publishing his anti-NWO media with Satanists and Chaos Magickians? Are people who believe that "nothing is true" now leading the so-called "truth movement"?

abduLMaria · September 03, 2009, 10:28:48 PM

i do sometimes post links to iamthewitness.com & TIU on PPlanet. besides some accusations of anti-Semitism, which I take as a COMPLIMENT - considering the source - the posts didn't get deleted or anything.

just another way to present the info to PPlanet users who have more dedication to studying history honestly than worshipping AJ.

MikeWB · September 03, 2009, 10:39:58 PM

I have a tool that mass sends PMs on YT. Those that are still interested, let's write a page, a forum post, that has all of the relevant exposures of AJ's dealings. Once we have that, we can start blasting TiU page to people!

evanlong · September 06, 2009, 03:35:28 PM

Quote from: "abduLMaria"i do sometimes post links to iamthewitness.com & TIU on PPlanet. besides some accusations of anti-Semitism, which I take as a COMPLIMENT - considering the source - the posts didn't get deleted or anything.

I think this is a very good approach. If lots of links were posted on ATS and PP, it would result in a lot more exposure for the material.

rodin · September 28, 2009, 07:06:24 PM

Just caught this thread and am tired but its a great idea. Will try to do my bit this week

gurdgieff · October 02, 2009, 12:32:58 PM

just think how many fans george galloway has?

Scotty · October 23, 2009, 09:48:22 AM

'Tyranny Response Team' getting "fired-up" over new movie, about Obama.

IT WILL TAKE AN ARMY TO DEFEAT THE NWO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsSeC1cV ... r_embedded

It's all a big joke to Alex Jones.

THE AQUARIAN 1 · November 23, 2009, 01:01:13 AM

I'm aware that Alex Jones is probably avoiding certain issues like Zionism and Judaism.

But honestly, what's wrong with this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptsbCwcbrfc

Or a number of other videos? Alex Jones was one of the first personalities to address the conspiracy, at least for me. Obviously many came before him.

We have to recognize the power of his work, even if it is mixed with half truths as well as flat out lies.

THE AQUARIAN 1

abduLMaria · November 23, 2009, 08:34:35 AM

Quote from: "evanlong"
Quote from: "abduLMaria"i do sometimes post links to iamthewitness.com & TIU on PPlanet. besides some accusations of anti-Semitism, which I take as a COMPLIMENT - considering the source - the posts didn't get deleted or anything.

I think this is a very good approach. If lots of links were posted on ATS and PP, it would result in a lot more exposure for the material.

plus there are a lot of people on PPlanet that are LOOKING - actively - for websites like TIU & DBS because they want to LEARN. they have minimal attachment to AJ.

for them he is a teacher; when they leave him, he will be a former teacher.

AJ reminds me a little bit of a karate instructor i had in college. the head instructor had a security company that i worked for. he put pressure on one of the assistant instructors to bump me up 2 grades, from white belt to purple belt, bypassing yellow. the assistant instructor's name was Caesar P. MoonDragon (won't say his last name). when the time came, Caesar said something like, "you're slow, you basically suck, but George said to give you this belt, so here".

Caesar wasn't that bad of a guy, he just didn't have the insight to help me learn Karate. for me, he is a FORMER teacher. and i have a lot more respect for him than i do for AJ !

i wouldn't spend a lot of time on it but, yes, there's a lot we can all do to help AJ be a former teacher for a lot of people.

YouTube experiment: Trying to convert AJ fans - JOIN NOW!

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