My criticism of MCP

[MikeWB]

I listend to MCP for over a year and still think that he has the best daily show on a major radio network but there's some things about him that I just can't take much of anymore.

Here's just a brief list of things that I don't like:

- too much  "Nazis are good" crap - almost every week there's few comments coming from him about how Nazis were not as bad and Hitler was good. Lots of comments are disguised as "Well, I got an email from Mr. X and he says that after reading <something about Hitler> he wishes he was his President".
- he thinks an angel talks to him - and he's writing a book about it! once he releases it, his credibility will  be done.
- he believes in and trusts astrology - yes. astrology. crap that can be easily explained with Forer Effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
- thinks Ahmedinejad is a great guy - he clearly likes dictators.
- thinks that Islam is a good religion - one of the most oppressive and intolerant religions out there
- his show features always the same callers which always talk about the same old stuff.
- too much historical info... stuff about what happened 50 years ago or over. yes, history is important but we have different issues to deal with now.

Sometimes I feel like I wasted an hour by listening to him. I'll give up listening for a week and see how much I miss it.

He stands next to zero chance to bring in more people into the anti-zionist movement and to create a large movement. He's just preaching to the choir... a choir of people who are mostly 40+ and many are in 70s. We need to reach those that 16-25 to stand a chance of waking up and reaching a critical mass of people. The only guy that's making some strides in this age category is AJ and that pisses me off.

[joeblow]

- thinks that Islam is a good religion - one of the most oppressive and intolerant religions out there

If you mean that Islam completely repudiates Atheistic Secular Humanism (a Jew creation) which you espouse, then it is not one of, but rather the most oppressive and intolerant religion out there.

Concerning MCP, despite his own desires for leadership in the Anti-Talmud Movement, I think that he is a pragmatist and is actually waiting for The One Political Leader who will lead us all the freedom.

I personally believe that when the Goyim have absolutely no financial future left, then they will rise. They already know who is to blame.

[sullivan]

- thinks Ahmedinejad is a great guy - he clearly likes dictators.

Ahmedinejad was elected. Twice.

[Rockclimber]

As I understand it (but have never confirmed it) MCP has the largest RBN audience (and it probably is 40 to 70)

I do have a problem with the younger crowd though and don't get me wrong, we need them BIG time because of their energy, youth and fight. You know you talk about how AJ attracts the 16-25 crowd but ironically I find that the crowd that tends to be the most resistant to change and cross-over are the 16-25 crowd. They're more gullible and trusting and they tend to be looking for a hip leaders. They gravitate more towards 'leaders' and due to their inexperience attract more towards the shallow (the hip, funny yet rebellious loud mouths-i.e, AJ) Additionally, the younger crowd often pride themselves in being more liberal and go with the flow and don't/won't gravitate towards perceived 'right wingers'. I won't over-generalize though since we do have several younger gentlemen here that are awake. I would like to hear their thoughts on these matters. If the end result is to sculpt a radio personality who can reach the younger crowd in the anti-zionist movement not a one comes to mind at this point other than Ognir.

We need to groom a few of 'our own'.

I heard a recent member of ours on the Joeblow show who I think has  a good voice and it rather articulate-Scorpio. He sounds young and yet he has a professional and courteous way about him. I think he should start doing his own show as well. imho

[mgt23]

agree, scorpio has right infiltration method and good attitude.

[Rockclimber]

agree, scorpio has right infiltration method and good attitude.

And he has energy, sounds 'hip' yet not arrogant and boastful.

And no offense to you other radio personalities btw, your doing great work as well!

Also...part of the attraction to Jonestein--AJ's loud mouth attracts a lot of 'bubbas' and WWF followers. While it's good to get loud and show passion, AJ does it in a theatrical way and tends to attract many AJ 'lifers'. They can't think for themselves, and feel like they're doing their job just by listening to him and they beleive he can do no wrong. If anyone has stuck it out with the guy more for than 2-years there has to be something inherently wrong with that person imho.

[MikeWB]

sullivan, Saddam Hussain was also elected numerous times.

I don't want this thread to become a religious debate thread but I'll just say that Joeblow doesn't have a clue what atheism is or where it came from (hint: it's rational and a part of many schools of thought and a western branch came from Greeks 300 years BC and has nothing to do with Judaism). But Joeblow is a hypocrite and he should be happy that he's in Sweden since if he were in Saudi Arabia, they'd already chop his arms off (and maybe even his head) for running illegal and blasphemous site(s).  

As for MCP pushing Islam, if the rumors about MCP's sexual orientation are true, he would have been hanged by now under Sharia laws. So yeah, a big 'screw you' to MCP for pushing a mindfuck cult like that. Just because they're against the Jews doesn't mean that they're any better! In fact, if you read Quran, it has more hate towards kuffars (non-Muslims)  than Talmud.

Now back to the real topic. Being young definitely has some advantages when attracting young people but older guys can do just as well. People don't see a pic of you when you do a radio show.

I think it has a lot to do with talking about and producing what young people want and how you feel about yourself. Bumper music, talking about stuff that's relevant for them and so on. Producing videos and having a presence on sites where this age group congregates (that includes Facebook, Twitter and so on) helps a lot too.

I also think that we should latch onto anti-Israel movements. There's so many of them and there's many of them coming from the left. If we initially tone our message down (i.e. don't say "Jew this Jew that), we can get more interviews with their leaders and get to talk to their flock. Then we can slowly introduce our point of view and minimize the alienation.

From my YT experiment I've discovered that there's a huge stigma when you say the word "Jew". People just immediately label you as a hate monger and completely tune out. I'd say that about 95% of the people I've IMed on YT fall into that category. Why is that? Well, for 60 years these people have been slowly poisoning the minds of the goyim and have been labeling themselves as victims and they have a reflex to label anyone who criticizes Jews or Israel as Nazis or hate mongers. What we need is a way to crush these mental walls and get through to them and then expose them to the crimes of the Zios. Anti-Israel position might be a way to reach a larger portion since that's currently 'en vogue'. Rachel Corrie story and the plight of Palestinians is something that can't be dismissed as "hate of Jews".

MCP sometimes spends his whole show debating one little disagreement with some guy (a color of Hitler's shoe or something just as irrelevant as that) and misses the big picture. Then people say he's hiding something and how he's an agent and a mole of Mossad or some other ridiculous shit like that.. all because they disagree on 0.01% of the whole picture. There's so much infighting and wild accusations about members of this movement over really trivial stuff (If you want to see how extreme things can get, read this: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=7290 ... seriously, what the fuck?!?).

And then when one of these nutjobs calls MCPs show, he gives them airtime and then he spends 20 min defending himself of crap that anyone with half a brain will recognize as BS. Case in point: Aryan phone calls. Aryan is some Jewish troll that spews total BS and yet MCP spends multiple shows on this guy. He's doing EXACTLY what these nutjobs want him to do: waste his time on stupid, irrelevant, bullshit! I wish he'd just ignore these idiotic criticisms and don't waste a second on them during his show and just talk about issues of today that are important! Hey Mike, read this: http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/ . This is how you handle a troll: you ignore them! You don't glorify them! Talk about stuff that actually impacts us and not about some troll! Talk about stuff that these criminals are pulling off today! Stuff that younger audience might find important or interesting and how it will impact their future.

Why not spend the time talking about Goldman Sachs, AIG and JP Morgan stealing billions of our dollars? We all know who owns them.

Anyway, my criticism is mostly about trying to be more effective. In the grand scope of things, it's irrelevant if 150 years from now some historian says: "You know, that MCP guy was right about this thing and that other little thing!" while the whole country has been long destroyed by this criminal gang. Small stuff is important but leave it for the books and talk about the grand picture on your show. What counts is how many people are woken up now while we still have a chance of defending our Republic.

[MikeWB]

Steve,

You assertion that MCP works for Zios is not  based in reality. It's a fucking crazy thing to say. He'll be proven to be a martian before you can prove that he's a Zionist.

Assertion that Hitler was a Jew is also a false one and has been debunked. And nazi party might have been funded by Zios but was not formed by them and they certainly didn't control it from 1940-45.

Assertion that Rockefellers are Jews is also false (but they do have a branch that has some Jewish blood). See this post: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=2646

It seems that certain types of people just can't face the reality so they claim that everyone's Jewish. This is hoe people become paranoid schizophrenics and end up in padded rooms in mental hospitals. Not everyone rich is Jewish!


Can't we fucking go past this name calling already? No wonder this movement is always losing.

[mgt23]

jewblowman

If you mean that Islam completely repudiates Atheistic Secular Humanism (a Jew creation) which you espouse, then it is not one of, but rather the most oppressive and intolerant religion out there.

utter bollox
1)whoever came up with a meme is irrelevant to it's philosophical validity-again you show your minute braincells by not showing how atheism is invalid let alone how islam shows that.
2)Agnostic logical Positivism(I have no truth criteria argument) would go even further than that and say that we can't even talk whether nonsense has any truth value or not.
3)You need the jew to validate your pitiful existence and herald your leader and pseudo messiah/prophet. Saladin is dead get over it. Only you is going to save yourself, not some meme you got and wish to push on others.

You are the worst poster here and do a MASSIVE disservice to TiU. Islam is a barbaric meme just like any cult worship of any mind-control/leader paradigm. It's probably why kurds were stoning women for having a relationship with a sunni(im sure i could find other instances of how people use religion to justify their actions, at least in atheism there is only yourself to be held responsible).

@Mike
Pipers pisses me off because all he goes on about is ww2. I want to know whats going on now with the movers and shakers.
 I want to know about bank banks banks banks banks. When these go, then we are making progress.

[MikeWB]

Steve, I don't listen to Piper on Hitler's origins and Rockefeller's origins. I've researched it myself and when you study WW2, you realize that Hitler was not a Jew and that Zionists have been funding Germany through credit because they thought it would be good business, not that it will lead to Holocaust and eventual settlement in Palestine.

As for Rockefellers, read that post. They're not Jewish. There's no proof they're jews except for that single branch that's well documented in Jewish books (among other things). If they were Jews, they'd flaunt it like the rest of them. Number of crypto Jews in US is very small because they run the whole fucking country! They don't need to hide at all here! Crypto Judaism is popular in countries where they are prosecuted.

mgt23, good post!

[thirdeyewise]

Zionists have been funding Germany through credit because they thought it would be good business, not that it will lead to Holocaust and eventual settlement in Palestine.

How can you say that without laughing, these people's goal has always been the eventual settlement of palestine, hence the name zionist.
for you to say they had no idea it would lead to the evetual settlement of palestine is crazy to me, Israel was NO ACCIDENT!


"Anti-Semitism will act as a propelling force which, like the wave of the future, would bring the Jews into the promised land."               Theodore Herzl


It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends."
Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897.

[sullivan]

jewblowman

Hmmmm... Off to a great start there. That little ad-hom took all the intellectual prowess of a gnat. If you can't make your point without employing juvenile tactics, then you can't make your point. If you want to have a flame-fest, I suggest you take it elsewhere.

You are the worst poster here and do a MASSIVE disservice to TiU.

While I disagree with lots of what JoeBlowman has to say, I doubt he is the worst poster here.

Islam is a barbaric meme just like any cult worship of any mind-control/leader paradigm. It's probably why kurds were stoning women for having a relationship with a sunni(im sure i could find other instances of how people use religion to justify their actions, at least in atheism there is only yourself to be held responsible).

Your portrayal of Islam as 'barbaric' is disingenuous in the extreme and is a tactic commonly used by the occupiers of Palestine. Is that a coincidence?

Islam represents hundreds of millions of people, whose opinions range from the relatively liberal through to the barbaric. Ditto with Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and any other ism you can shake a stick at.  Islam has, since its inception, been alternately progressive and regressive, these fluctuations being in response to external threats, real or perceived.

The reason why Kurds are stoning women is the same reason the Hutu were massacring the Tutsi in Rwanda - because external powers recognised that a difference existed (or where it didn't, created one) and then exploited it for their own ends.

[sullivan]

sullivan, Saddam Hussain was also elected numerous times.

Other than weak and utterly transparent U.S. funded and organised 'protests' there has been no solid proof provided of any large-scale vote fraud in the Iranian elections. If there was, it would be paraded by the Zionist-controlled media day-in, day-out. There was none, so they had to attempt to manufacture it.  If he was elected without the need for rigged elections (unlike Hussein) then he hardly qualifies as a dictator, does he?

[mgt23]

Hmmmm... Off to a great start there. That little ad-hom took all the intellectual prowess of a gnat. If you can't make your point without employing juvenile tactics, then you can't make your point. If you want to have a flame-fest, I suggest you take it elsewhere.

i was being sarcastic(fine i wont use juvenile terms anymore)
in case you missed this war from the beginning-one i never started it, two i've had baseless accusations being leveled at me over the past two weeks purely for propaganda value, three i've challenged him to a FAIR DEBATE WHICH WAS REFUSED, i didnt see you moderating sullivan when he accused me of counter surveilance, gayness, jealous etc etc so i think u'll forgive me if i was taking the piss a little bit in jest.

While I disagree with lots of what JoeBlowman has to say, I doubt he is the worst poster here.

name one since cock eyed bob?

Your portrayal of Islam as 'barbaric' is disingenuous in the extreme and is a tactic commonly used by the occupiers of Palestine. Is that a coincidence?

oh please do me a favour sullivan and get a job at umunu he can teach you about the honeypot filters there.

Islam represents hundreds of millions of people, whose opinions range from the relatively liberal through to the barbaric. Ditto with Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and any other ism you can shake a stick at. Islam has, since its inception, been alternately progressive and regressive, these fluctuations being in response to external threats, real or perceived.

now compare with what i said

(im sure i could find other instances of how people use religion to justify their actions, at least in atheism there is only yourself to be held responsible).

i wasn't picking on islam par se and don't try and twist it as if i was. I was picking on memetic frameworks, deliberately designed for a groupthink purpose which can be later used as qualification for otherwise unpalatable acts of mob thinking.
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1177931030/Girl_Gets_Stoned_to_Death_for_Dating_a_Man_of_Another_Religion as you point out i can find numerous examples of the barbaric groupthink within any hierarchical system including judasim but not limited to. the design of islam was not innocent but planned. crucial difference because they understood even then how to manipulate psychology and what tools in the future they would need.

The reason why Kurds are stoning women is the same reason the Hutu were massacring the Tutsi in Rwanda - because external powers recognised that a difference existed (or where it didn't, created one) and then exploited it for their own ends.

listen to what your saying- i actually agree with this with the modification that the difference was manufactured-this is essentially why my reasoning is valid and your trying to skew what i say.

now if you dont mind i would like to talk about piper please with good arguementation and not just about secular humanism which created the tangent.

[sullivan]

in case you missed this war from the beginning-one i never started it, two i've had baseless accusations being leveled at me over the past two weeks purely for propaganda value, three i've challenged him to a FAIR DEBATE WHICH WAS REFUSED, i didnt see you moderating sullivan when he accused me of counter surveilance, gayness, jealous etc etc so i think u'll forgive me if i was taking the piss a little bit in jest.

If I catch Joeblowman engaging the same tactics, then I'll be the first to comment.

While I disagree with lots of what JoeBlowman has to say, I doubt he is the worst poster here.

name one since cock eyed bob?

I generally keep my opinions on other posters to myself. However, I have the impression that there are a small number of posters here poisoning the well with bullshit, whether unintentionally or deliberately.

Your portrayal of Islam as 'barbaric' is disingenuous in the extreme and is a tactic commonly used by the occupiers of Palestine. Is that a coincidence?

oh please do me a favour sullivan and get a job at umunu he can teach you about the honeypot filters there.

I wasn't talking about umunu, or joeblowman. I was talking about your blanket portrayal of Islam as 'barbaric'. Can't you stick to the point?

(im sure i could find other instances of how people use religion to justify their actions, at least in atheism there is only yourself to be held responsible).

I doesn't need to be a religion. Any philosophy will do. Communism, capitalism, socialism, fascism, catholicism, protestantism, buddhism, hinduism, unitarianism, discordianism... it doesn't matter what you put before the 'ism'.

i wasn't picking on islam par se and don't try and twist it as if i was.

Are you accusing me of trying to twist your words? Come on!

I was picking on memetic frameworks, deliberately designed for a groupthink purpose which can be later used as qualification for otherwise unpalatable acts of mob thinking.

You can wrap it up in terminology like 'memetic framework' all you want. Every belief system is memetic and any belief system could be used to justify acts of barbarity.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1177931030/Girl_Gets_Stoned_to_Death_for_Dating_a_Man_of_Another_Religion as you point out i can find numerous examples of the barbaric groupthink within any hierarchical system including judasim but not limited to. the design of islam was not innocent but planned. crucial difference because they understood even then how to manipulate psychology and what tools in the future they would need.

What makes Islam different? Is it the only 'ism' that was planned? Nope. All 'isms' are planned. All 'isms' have a design.

The reason why Kurds are stoning women is the same reason the Hutu were massacring the Tutsi in Rwanda - because external powers recognised that a difference existed (or where it didn't, created one) and then exploited it for their own ends. listen to what your saying- i actually agree with this with the modification that the difference was manufactured-this is essentially why my reasoning is valid and your trying to skew what i say.

Actually, I should have written that division was manufactured. The Hutu and Tutsi were created by the colonialists on the basis of differing physical characteristics - tall and short. These physical difference pre-existed. Divisions are always created by those seeking to profit from them.

now if you dont mind i would like to talk about piper please with good arguementation and not just about secular humanism which created the tangent.

Sorry, are you trying to tell me something there?

[mgt23]

I was talking about your blanket portrayal of Islam as 'barbaric'. Can't you stick to the point?

and i was just citing islam as an example since joe is a muslim and his post took this topic off on a tangent, inferring that his agenda was the real implication.
I made quite clear later on in the post that my criticism wasn't limited to islam and only used it for the sake of topic relevance to joe's agenda in taking it off on a tangent

I doesn't need to be a religion. Any philosophy will do. Communism, capitalism, socialism, fascism, catholicism, protestantism, buddhism, hinduism, unitarianism, discordianism... it doesn't matter what you put before the 'ism'.

agreed with the exception of neo-kurt saxonism which wants you to think for yourself, which is what i think your getting at and i would hope to support.

Every belief system is memetic and any belief system could be used to justify acts of barbarity.

probably true, but some ism's are more overt than others. you would have a hard time accusing pacifism of barbarity.

if you want to chat to me sullivan my skype is mgt2323 and we can clarify terms

[thirdeyewise]

you know how piper calls himself The Dutchman", well it is well known Jews are very much established up there, the area is nick named "Israel north"
no proof, just my observation. people get pretty engrossed in the fact that since all these radio personalities give out so much information they could
not possibly be on the other team.


newsflash, it's been done that way many times by many different characters. i can not get over the fact that piper said that Frank Collin's (Cohen) friend
turned enemy ADMITTED PUBLICLY (piper put those words in capital letters as if that proves something) that he lied about Collin being Jewish. Just look at
Collin, if you can't SEE that guy is Jewish i have to question the quality of information coming out of your mouth and wonder about its intent.

[thirdeyewise]

Assertion that Hitler was a Jew is also a false one and has been debunked. And nazi party might have been funded by Zios but was not formed by them and they certainly didn't control it from 1940-45.

Assertion that Rockefellers are Jews is also false (but they do have a branch that has some Jewish blood). See this post: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=2646  

all i can say is, where do you get your information, WOW!


"And nazi party might have been funded by Zios but was not formed by them and they certainly didn't control it from 1940-45."

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD HAVE FUNDED THEM?!


PLEASE READ THIS PART, PLEASE!:

The Treaty of Versailles was hijacked by Jewish international financiers to create the necessary economic, social, and political and conditions necessary for Hitler to exploit.

Hitler was instructed by German Army Intelligence to spy on The German Workers Party. The head of German Army Intelligence was none other than Max Warburg brother of Paul Warburg, founder of The US Federal Reserve!!!   (hitler was sent by a jew ,.... hello!)

The modus operandi of the Zionists has always been to infiltrate/and or set up groups and political organisations/parties of every description including anti-semitic.

Hitler became the most prominent personality in the party. He caused Harrer to drop out, and he pushed Drexler, the nominal chairman, to the sidelines. He filled key positions with his own friends from the Thule Society and the Army. During the summer of 1920, upon his suggestion, the party was renamed the National Socialist German Worker Party (NASDAP). The new name was intended to equally attract nationalists and proletarians.


Whats more interesting is the opinion some of his early Party comrades had of him, including Anton Drexler, original head of the Party. They published a pamphlet/indictment of Hitler in 1921:

A lust for power and personal ambition have caused Herr Adolf Hitler to return to his post after his six weeks stay in Berlin, of which the purpose has not yet been disclosed. He regards the time as ripe for bringing disunion and schism to our ranks by means of shadowy people behind him, and thus futher the interests of the Jews and their friends.

It grows more and more clear that his purpose is simply to use the National Socialist party as a springboard for his own immoral purposes, and to seize the leadership in order to force the party onto a different track at the pyschological moment. This is most clearly shown by an ultimatum which he sent to the Party leaders a few days ago, in which he demands, among other things, that he shall have a sole and absolute dictatorship of the Party, and that the Committee, including the locksmith Anton Drexler, the founder and leader of the Party, should retire.

And how does he carry on his campaign? Like a Jew. He twists every fact....National Socialists! Make up your minds about such characters! Make no mistake. Hitler is a demogogue....He believes himself capable of filling you up with all kinds of tales that are anything but the truth.

[thirdeyewise]

I find it absolutely INSANE that someone can not see the obvious "Jewishness" of this top Nazi SS member, INSANE!



http://www.freewebs.com/m3smg2/MH1950aclip.jpg

http://www.hermes-press.com/heidegger5.jpg


MY GOD, OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!

[MikeWB]

I find it absolutely INSANE that someone can not see the obvious "Jewishness" of this top Nazi SS member, INSANE!



http://www.freewebs.com/m3smg2/MH1950aclip.jpg

http://www.hermes-press.com/heidegger5.jpg


MY GOD, OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!

Big nose = Jewish? Come on.

Travel some more dude. The guy I work with is from Balkans and has a nose that puts Jewish noses to shame.

[MikeWB]

Zionists have been funding Germany through credit because they thought it would be good business, not that it will lead to Holocaust and eventual settlement in Palestine.

How can you say that without laughing, these people's goal has always been the eventual settlement of palestine, hence the name zionist.
for you to say they had no idea it would lead to the evetual settlement of palestine is crazy to me, Israel was NO ACCIDENT!


"Anti-Semitism will act as a propelling force which, like the wave of the future, would bring the Jews into the promised land."               Theodore Herzl


It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends."
Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897.

Here's something you should study: when exactly did the notion of Zionism become popular? Hint: it had very little support from the wealthy european Jews until the end of WW2. Rothschilds weren't pushing for it before then.

To say that Jews were responsible for Nazism and for Holocaust is why people dismiss "zionism conspiracy theorists" as fools. Yeah, white peoples can never do any evil... it's all the fault of the Jews. Right.  :roll:

All this is just a nonsense being propagated by the various white national groups who are trying to change the history.

Steve's latest assertion that Collins is a Jew is fucking laughable. Maybe YOU, Steve, are a Mossad agent or Sayanim sent here to spread lies and bullshit. See, it's easy to play this bullshit "he's an agent, he's a Jew" idiotic game! And what the hell have you done to further this movement? Show me the books that you've written? How about some articles? What exactly have you contributed other than bullshit lies against Piper and Glenn? Are you being targeted by the ADL? Are your speeches being disrupted by Zio agents? Are your conferences being cancelled by hotels on the urging of ZIonist organizations? What have you exposed exactly? Until you actually do something, I'll take Piper's word over yours any time of the day.

Are you the one feeding Maynard lies about people on this site? That article that Maynard wrote against Og & DBS had info clearly from someone who visits this site. And you're the only one who was posting Maynard's articles around here.

Piper's no Jew... he's just a Nazi sympathizer. And that doesn't make him a Jew.

[MikeWB]

Islam represents hundreds of millions of people, whose opinions range from the relatively liberal through to the barbaric. Ditto with Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and any other ism you can shake a stick at.  Islam has, since its inception, been alternately progressive and regressive, these fluctuations being in response to external threats, real or perceived.

Here's an inconvenient fact: Most suicide bombers are Muslims: http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... ure?page=2

Fact, Sharia laws discriminate against women and anyone who's not a believer in Islam.

The very word Islam means submission. Surrender of one's will. You know very well what happens when people surrender their will to some crazy person.

Just because 100s of millions of people are delusional and think something is right doesn't make it so.

If they're not barbaric, why do they cut of people's heads in public squares for thefts in Saudi Arabia? With a sword.

Why do they cut off people's hands at various joints? That's not barbaric to you?

Say you drink a beer there, would getting 100 lashes (which would take you several months to heal and leave you with huge scars and emotional problems) seem barbaric?

What about intolerance of other religions? Did you know that Christianity is illegal in Saudi Arabia? How many Christian churches do you think you'll find in Middle East?

The reason why Kurds are stoning women is the same reason the Hutu were massacring the Tutsi in Rwanda - because external powers recognised that a difference existed (or where it didn't, created one) and then exploited it for their own ends.

That issue is discussed at length in Kuran and they do it because Mohammad says so.

[thirdeyewise]

I find it absolutely INSANE that someone can not see the obvious "Jewishness" of this top Nazi SS member, INSANE!



http://www.freewebs.com/m3smg2/MH1950aclip.jpg

http://www.hermes-press.com/heidegger5.jpg


MY GOD, OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!

Big nose = Jewish? Come on.

Travel some more dude. The guy I work with is from Balkans and has a nose that puts Jewish noses to shame.

there is something not right, if you can not see that guy is more than likely Jewish..........wow!
travel some more, i was born and lived outside of the united states for about 6 years and i was in the U.S. Navy and have been to
at least 7 different countries, if you think my analysis was based on a "big nose", you are very much mistaken.
i'm done with this argument, i can tell it's a waste of time. BIG NOSE......FUNNY!

[Christopher Marlowe]

Here's an inconvenient fact: Most suicide bombers are Muslims: http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... ure?page=2

Robert Pape's study of Suicide Bombers has been the most comprehensive to date, and he wrote a book called "Dying to Win".  Here are a few facts from the Amazon.com editorial on his book:

FACT: Suicide terrorism is not primarily a product of Islamic fundamentalism.

FACT: The world's leading practitioners of suicide terrorism are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka–a secular, Marxist-Leninist group drawn from Hindu families.

FACT: Ninety-five percent of suicide terrorist attacks occur as part of coherent campaigns organized by large militant organizations with significant public support.

FACT: Every suicide terrorist campaign has had a clear goal that is secular and political: to compel a modern democracy to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland.
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I think it is unfair, and I think it is a Zionist MSM slur on Islam to associate "suicide terrorism" with Muslims. Pape's study shows that suicide bombers are not motivated by their religion, but rather by their goal of repelling an overwhelming military occupation of what they perceive as their homeland.

Even with this study, I doubt any MSM mention of suicide bombings because I don't know where this information is coming from.  The chief example of this is Iraq, where I continually hear about suicide bombings.  The only journalists from the US are embedded ones, and I doubt that they are doing any critical analysis of what they are told.  If a truck bomb goes off, how do I know that the driver of the truck was inside when it exploded?  I do know that there is a MSM need to present the Muslims as scary nutjobs.  When I hear about a bomb going off in Iraq, I assume israel planted it. When I hear that a bomb goes off anywhere, I assume israel planted it.  I don't know of any other country in the world that funded a team of terrorists to go through Europe blowing up their enemies, and then made a movie about it.
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- thinks that Islam is a good religion - one of the most oppressive and intolerant religions out there

Really this thread has taken a wrong turn from the very start with the ad hom and then the Anti-Islam stuff. The title of the thread is about MCP, who seems to be very popular and unpopular on TIU.

Criticizing him because he thinks Islam is a good religion is a weak argument IMHO, and this sort of talk can only veer into religious arguments, which I have never seen to be productive, and rarely congenial.  I am not Muslim even a little bit, but I've never known any fanatical Muslim person, or violent Muslim person.  Every Muslim I've met has been kind to me without exception.  It is not my religion, and I am not interested in studying it.  I am a Christian, a Catholic, and if God has to judge between the Christians and the Muslims, then I will leave that to Him. If not, then that is fine with me also.  
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too much "Nazis are good" crap

As to Hitler, I admit siding with Hitler up seems the surest way to turn people against you. Comparing someone to Hitler is the number one slur, and the last gasp of a desperate argument. But uncovering the truth about Hitler has made me understand how much of a charade the study of history has become.

The number one defamation of Hitler is the holyhoax, and I don't need to tell you what I think of that. After reading Germar Rudolf's book, and watching "One Third of the Holocaust", and reading many essays by Faurisson and others, I have come to believe that the hollowhoax is a giant fraud. The Nuremberg trials were show trials, (the Soviet Judge had actually presided at many Soviet show trials), and the evidence presented would never have been allowed in a real court. All of the physical evidence shows that there was never a plan, and never an order given to exterminate the Jews. The holocast is very emotionally charged, and it would be horrible if it were true, and I would like to believe it, but my brain won't let me.

After taking away the holycist, Hitler must be re-examined. What did he stand for? Some on this site believe that Hitler was another part of a large zionist plot, and I've read a lot of the evidence, but I have come to believe the arguments are weak and it really seems to be a case of over-thinking the point.  While it may be true that Hitler may have received some funding from zionists, and that he did send some Jews to Palestine, I don't that proves he was a zionist. I believe Hitler was funded by zionists for the purpose of moving Jews to Palestine and also as a means of opposing Stalin, who had taken away the power of the zionist controlled Soviet Union. Hitler's motivation to move Jews out of Germany was part of his "final solution" to the "Jewish problem".  I think Hitler believed that Jews would never properly mix with German society, and would always set themselves apart and try to dominate. Hitler's motivation was to move the Jews out of Germany, not to create a new israel. I think Hitler's plan was to send all the Jews to Madagascar.

The stand alone fact, which makes me doubt that Hitler was a zionist, is that Hitler moved Germany off the zionist banking scheme. By printing his own money, Hitler declared himself the enemy of international zionism. Truly, compounded interest on fractional reserves lending is their greatest trick and the source of most of their wealth. Countries that print their own money are stakes in the hearts of the zionist vampires.  To believe that Hitler was a conscious agent of the zionists, and also that Hitler caused Germany to print its own money, is to hold two conflicting narratives. I know the second to be true, therefore the first MUST be false.

Since Hitler is neither a tool of the zionists, and the hellacause didn't happen, then what about Hitler?  We know Hitler's right hand man, Rudolph Hess, was allowed to fly from Germany to England on a mission for peace between those two nations. The fact that Hess made it through shows that Hess was expected and allowed to cross over. I think that shows Hitler was trying to broker peace through back channels. The terms Hess offered (I got these from an article said to be published in an English magazine during WW II) were that Germany would withdraw from France, peace with England, and that Germany would be allowed to continue attacking the Soviet Union. Hitler believed that the real enemy was communism, and he didn't want a war with England. Pat Buchanan recently came under fire for saying this thing, and I think Buchanan was right.

So Hitler didn't kill 6 million anything, he wasn't a zionist, and he didn't start or even want WW II.  He was fighting against the Soviets, who became the Evil Empire in the western consciousness after the war.  So Hitler saw the enemy too soon?

I'm not a fan of "racial purity", or eugenics, but if this is all we have left to condemn Hitler, it is, in comparison to those other defamatory charges, picking nits. Many people in that day held similar notions so I don't think he stood apart in that respect.  Also, my understanding of Hitler's ideas on race purity were along the lines that every race had it's own strengths, and that they should be left apart to develop those strengths. I don't disagree with that notion that many races seem to develop particular strengths, but I don't draw the line at telling other people the proper race with whom they ought to mate. Also I think perhaps new races might develop that have new strengths. I am all for letting people alone to decide for themselves.

As far as eugenics is concerned, I think many people today will make the argument that there are too many people alive on the planet today. Often times, when these persons are pressed, they will make arguments in support of their belief that sound a lot like eugenics.  I believe that the eugenics movement is alive and well, but they are not as open in expressing their beliefs.  (For the record, I think the earth has plenty of room left, but our systems of urban development, economic policy, manufacturing, and agriculture cause our human populations to incur many more problems than would naturally adhere.  Truly, our backward systems would cause any number to humans to be "too large".)    
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- thinks Ahmedinejad is a great guy - he clearly likes dictators.

I don't think Ahmedinejad is a dictator. I think case against Ahmedinejad is weak and based on the the zionist MSM need to come up with a reason to kill all the Iranians.  Ahmedinejad was elected twice, and the most recent CIA/Twitter stories about him seemed like pure crap. My understanding of the Iranian government shows that the President of Iran is not as powerful as the Ayatolla, so I don't see how Ahmedinejad could be said to be a dictator in any case.
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It is very difficult to come to Truth these days. It is very difficult to sort through the bullshit. We read something and we think it is true, and then it becomes part of our consciousness.  We base our opinions on our previous experience, which includes stories that we read that we believed to be true.

In many ways our consciousness is like computer programming: garbage in, garbage out.  And if we come to find ourselves believing in a lie, then we have to go back and look at the code to find the bug; i.e. we need to find out the lie(s) that we previously believed to be true.  The holohoax was a big stumbling block for me, but once I removed it I was able to see how it stopped me from criticizing zionism. I was afraid that criticism of Jews would lead to mass extermination of Jews, which is an irrational fear instilled by the propagators of that myth. That is the purpose of that myth.

The lie about WW II shows itself when we look at the official story: that Gemany and USSR invaded Poland, so the allies teamed up with USSR to defeat Germany; Then after the war, the USSR was the enemy.--> That doesn't make any sense. If Germany is bad, and the USSR is bad, and they fight a war, why the fuck would I step in and defeat one so that I can fight the other?  Wouldn't it make more sense to let them fight it out?  So the official story is a lie. 50 million people dead for nothing. And WW II was a big part of my consciousness.  That was the "Just War".  Defeating Hitler was the noble act of the "Greatest Generation".  What a load of crap.
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DBS talks about becoming a pickle and then you can't go back to being a cucumber. I think I'm a pickle now. So a lot of these arguments about MCP don't wash with me. I like him so far. I haven't listened to him that much yet, so I can't recommend him like I would DBS or Ognir. But I like him so far.