Who watches most television?

MikeWB · September 23, 2009, 11:12:56 PM

And then people wonder how Zios control US and dumb us down...

QuoteWho watches most television?

DESPITE an increase in entertainment choices, watching television remains as popular as ever, according to data from the OECD's Communications Outlook report. American households watch the box for over eight hours a day on average, twice as long as anyone else. Viewing has fallen in some countries. Turks reportedly watched an hour's less television per day in 2007 than they did only two years earlier, when the country was America's nearest rival as couch-potato king.

Father Brown · September 24, 2009, 04:21:38 PM

No doubt. Don't forget that after American's eyeballs grow tired from the tube, they often resort to Beatle's records.

mgt23 · September 24, 2009, 04:33:36 PM

or god tv with pat robertson

GordZilla · September 24, 2009, 07:48:49 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:

hehe ok guys, get along ...remember "same team" ...

besides , watching Pat would be the same as watching "the tube" - but it is a funny counterpoint none-the-less.

I also think the faithful here are not big fans of Pat's anyways. :evil:

Jenny Lake · September 27, 2009, 03:32:13 PM

Give this a reality check.

There is no TV in my household. Homes of friends that do have TVs seldom watch. Families often share TV time for an hour or two, and that's it. Kids are 'busied' with homework and sports which compete with even family mealtimes. When the kids have free time, they'd rather 'chat' on MySpace or their cell phones and play on computers. I just don't believe this spin. It doesn't fit my experience or the hundred people whose habits are known to me. The point of this propaganda? --to make you hopeless and hateful toward Americans.

MikeWB · September 27, 2009, 03:36:48 PM

Quote from: "Jenny Lake"Give this a reality check.

There is no TV in my household. Homes of friends that do have TVs seldom watch. Families often share TV time for an hour or two, and that's it. Kids are 'busied' with homework and sports which compete with even family mealtimes. When the kids have free time, they'd rather 'chat' on MySpace or their cell phones and play on computers. I just don't believe this spin. It doesn't fit my experience or the hundred people whose habits are known to me. The point of this propaganda? --to make you hopeless and hateful toward Americans.

Jenny, you really need to talk to some average americans... they live for the celebrity gossip and TV. Celeb gossip is so huge even on the web, they've got the most traffic after file sharing and porn.

As for the numbers, they come from OECD which is funded by the US so there's no hatin' coming from them.

Jenny Lake · September 27, 2009, 04:02:37 PM

Mike, I take your point but have you thought about the very nature of creating this illusion? I'm not a youngin'. I've worked decades at very sociable jobs where I've had my entire workday comprise of conversation with average people. They did not talk about celebrity gossip or soaps. They talked about their real life experiences.

I'll give an example of where these TV numbers could be coming from. About a decade ago, the local taverns that were losing business turned over into high-tech 'sports bars' --three such spots in my neighborhood. Each one of these places has over a dozen TVs running non-stop, if not more. Nearly every 'waiting room' has had TVs installed. TVs sit atop gas station pumps and run their own special ads. TV video-monitors to 'teach, entertain, and market' to grocery store shoppers are in the big-chain groceries. It's all around --this is coming from the outside. The only people I know of who watch more than a couple hours of TV are lonely adults, usually elderly, sometimes not who say the TV keeps them company but they don't pay attention (fully subliminal, I know). This is all twisted and warped, an illusion to defeat you at the starting line.

MikeWB · September 27, 2009, 04:24:52 PM

Jenny, think of this way: who buys all the TVs that people are buying like crazy?

I've audited financial books of a large US electronics retailer and their number one product (raw sales numbers) are flat screen TVs. There's no recession when it comes to TV sales! In fact, the sales are increasing by around 40% YOY. Another data point is the stock prices and revenues of media companies... they're all showing increases in subscribers. I dismiss most of the anecdotal evidence and don't buy it when the raw data shows that TV use is still super-high and increasing.

I don't watch TV either but there's so many unemployed people now and many are watching TV because they have nothing else to do.

If anything, these numbers will only increase over time! And people are becoming dumber than dirt and they're being poisoned by the toxic TV programming that our controllers are creating.

Jenny Lake · September 27, 2009, 06:50:42 PM

QuoteAs for the numbers, they come from OECD which is funded by the US so there's no hatin' coming from them

That's partly true, the funding part. OECD, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, is a member-state international NGO that advises global governments. Dues are based on the size of the participants' GNP, the US having the largest individual percentage. This int'l Free Trade association was founded in 1948, headquartered in Paris. The current Secretary General is Mexican national Angel Gurria. An American, despite the US funding block, has never served in this position.
According to the home page at http://www.oecd.org/home, the OECD mission is to create a "stronger, cleaner, fairer world economy".
more info at the wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD and it's first director, Robert Marjolin.

They love us about as much as the U.N. loves us.

Quote..their number one product (raw sales numbers) are flat screen TVs. There's no recession when it comes to TV sales...stock prices and revenues of media companies...they're all showing increases in subscribers

Mike, didn't the whole system change recently? Californians were complaining that they would have to buy new TVs or converters to receive any signal at all! If I recall it right, for the first time, buying a new digi TV was allowed as a tax break. This probably has a time allowance for 1 to 3 years to encourage the new technology. Media service is also 'bundling' --everything; phone, cable, computer.

What gets me is that TURKs are "America's nearest rival as couch-potato king". Yes, no hatin' the Turks either.

MikeWB · September 27, 2009, 08:43:14 PM

Jenny, no... to get the new signal all you had to do was to call FCC and order a decoder for free... no need to change the TV. We're talking about past quarter (this is after the change).

What's scary is that TV has basically become a babysitter these days.

mgt23 · September 27, 2009, 09:04:48 PM

tv has to be jammed imo and then start thinking of taking out the fiat money simultaneously.

sullivan · September 28, 2009, 01:42:16 PM

Quote from: "Jenny Lake"I just don't believe this spin. It doesn't fit my experience or the hundred people whose habits are known to me. The point of this propaganda? --to make you hopeless and hateful toward Americans.

You can't generalise based on your experience. I watch little TV - one hour "entertainment" a week, the rest of the time one of the news stations is on (Sky, Al-Jazeera, Press TV, Russia Today) or I'm not watching it. However, I wouldn't say my viewing habits or those of my friends typify the entire country.

Jenny Lake · September 28, 2009, 02:00:50 PM

Sully --do you know what you're saying? All you really have in reality is your experience and the knowledge of direct experience of those around you. To deny that is to supplant your own judgement with that of a "higher authority". This is how people stop thinking for themselves. And who/where is this higher authority? Is it the OECD? You trust their judgement above your own experience?

AntiPharisee · September 28, 2009, 03:06:08 PM

"American households watch the box for over eight hours a day..."

1. If a household is 4 people then that's 2 hours per person.

2. If one person watches for 6 hours, then the other 3 people
watch for 40 minutes each.

3. Canada and the USA should be about the same, so we know
they are lying. Canada is just a miniature USA.

4. OECD is part of "THEM" = Liars with an Agenda.
The first question should always be, "What is the Satanic/Evil
agenda being promoted here?

5. Has anyone ever had an OECD agent over at their place, with a clipboard,
monitoring your hellevision use and how many times you went to the bathroom,
fridge, phone? It's never happened.

6. If I ran this operation for the OECD I wouldn't even send anybody out into the field.
The whole article/study could be written by 3 people in an office
after they received a fax from London with the prearranged numbers/results sought.

7. Generally the only people to trust to tell the truth
is the "small guy" like DBS and Ognir [whoops, sorry JennyGirl, I meant to say "small girl"
like Jennifer Lake too] : - ) who are independent of Big 'Centralised State' Money
and independent of Big 'House of Rothschild'/Corporate money.

sullivan · September 28, 2009, 06:15:32 PM

Quote from: "Jenny Lake"Sully --do you know what you're saying? All you really have in reality is your experience and the knowledge of direct experience of those around you. To deny that is to supplant your own judgement with that of a "higher authority". This is how people stop thinking for themselves. And who/where is this higher authority? Is it the OECD? You trust their judgement above your own experience?

Jenny, you are putting words in my mouth!. What I am saying is that my close friends are, with few exceptions, almost definitely atypical. They are switched on to reality behind many of the illusions that have been constructed for us. This group of people watch TV very selectively. I can't extrapolate from that to an entire populace. Nowhere did I suggest that the OECD survey is accurate, or that it should be taken as some sort of gospel. You (erroneously) read that into what I wrote.

Jenny Lake · October 06, 2009, 12:05:04 PM

Sully- I ultimately agree with you about projecting one's generalized opinions onto large populations. My apologies if I took the "you" personally in your response-- it looked to be directed at my comment.
On the whole of it, I see the art of statistic/trend modeling as shaping us with herd mentality; a social science application of the 'simplicity' theories of Ernst Mach, for example. I always hope that researchers who look for evidence of 'truth' would suspend the tendency to fill-in-the-gaps with generalizations in areas beyond their own investigations. Statistics are a two-edged sword particularly when it comes to unprovable assertions of private behavior.
Americans famously rail against each other with notions of trendiness --tv watching, junk food eating, money wasting, etc., all to the affect of self-hating divisiveness. But I could just as easily cough up statistics to show that Americans are busier than ever, working longer hours at their jobs. Who of us here actually thinks the media is giving us a fair picture of the world, hm?

holyland · October 06, 2009, 01:34:33 PM

Exactly. It is all propganda designed to make us see the world in a very particular way.

Father Brown · October 06, 2009, 03:16:36 PM

Whether or not this is true in terms of time in front of the boob-tube is irrelevant in my opinion.

One hour a day in front of a real actual TV set is enough for anyone.

In addition, front pages on Yahoo, or other Internet Service Providers is more TV in terms of effect. So are 99.9999% of all newspapers, radio, et al.

The whole world is a kind of TV. People talk like sitcoms for Pete's sake.

The "smartest" among us notice we sometimes talk like an episode of Seinfeld, or merely imitate cable news dialogue without realizing it.

I don't even want to comment what the dimmer among us parrot.

abduLMaria · October 06, 2009, 05:01:53 PM

Quote from: "MikeWB"
Quote from: "Jenny Lake"Give this a reality check.

There is no TV in my household. Homes of friends that do have TVs seldom watch. Families often share TV time for an hour or two, and that's it. Kids are 'busied' with homework and sports which compete with even family mealtimes. When the kids have free time, they'd rather 'chat' on MySpace or their cell phones and play on computers. I just don't believe this spin. It doesn't fit my experience or the hundred people whose habits are known to me. The point of this propaganda? --to make you hopeless and hateful toward Americans.

Jenny, you really need to talk to some average americans... they live for the celebrity gossip and TV.

i'm like Jenny - no TV, except i use LCD TV's as computer monitors.

when i go to a friends and watch their TV, i'm always fascinated by the ads. when you rarely watch TV, a little TV can be so interesting.

my sister in law is like the "average American" you describe. she devours the reality shows. i've never watched American Idol. paradoxically, this gives us something to talk about. she gets a chance to explain how the shows work.

a much safer subjects for family gatherings than Zionism. given that one of my other sisters-in-law is Jewish. oh vey. 8-)