Icke says that Rothschilds run it all on AJ show

[MikeWB]

Oct 7, 2009 show, hour two, 19:20min in. Icke finally says that Rothschilds are at the top, he says that Israel is Rothschild land and have their hands in everything, mentions that USA is not asking about Israel's nukes etc. And you know what AJ says? He says: "So you're saying that Rothschilds are bigger than Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family?"

Unbelievable! That man is a total idiot and a shill.

[LordLindsey]

It is now absolutely obvious that Icke was all along using the lizards as an allegory/metaphor for Zionist Jews!  I, and really almost everyone else, KNEW this, but it is now apparent that this is exactly what has been happening all along, and all of that other stuff that he was talking about regarding people's perceptions not being what they thought that they were *supposed Lizard ability of cloaking and bending light, etc.* appears to be allegories to the absolute control of media, especially Talmudvision!  

It is about damned time that Icke stop making himself look foolish to those who are not aware of what he was doing; welcome to the REAL fight, David.

LINDSEY

[§N9sh2bj]

:lol:

"Re: Icke says that Rohschilds (sic) run it all on AJ show"

and I was all ready to add:

"... and he adds, they are lizards too."  :lol:

Good to see he apparently didn't add that bit. Got tired of that real fast.

[Ognir]

Icke has a show coming up in Zurich in November

[Jenny Lake]

David Icke is the person who opened my eyes to the satanic components of NWOrderism, when an English friend lent me a stack of his older tapes --not the productions circulating the internet. The 'lizard' angle went untouched; the bloodline theories, however, had key status. I always had the impression that he protected his message with supernatural metaphors and allowed his popularity to grow (except those 'shaman' interviews cast a shadow over my thoughts) but I gave him credit for being a good warrior. His 'good' stuff was spot on.
   A major trip to the elite enclaves of the medieval landscape convinced me that modern people have missed the boat on the important symbols of western heritage (Americans in particular) though Europeans have had it in their faces. What's up with that? The history of alchemy, drugs and colonialism gives weight to Icke's message in my eyes. And he impressed me in his older material with a genuine loving attitude for people which carved a tolerance in my heart for whatever he was doing --it made his appeal very broad, across the spectrum of 'thinkers' and 'feelers' among us. Most of all, he westernizes the spiritual concepts in thousands of years of human development; we create this reality by our beliefs. Spot on.

[Large Sarge]

anyone got a link?

[Large Sarge]

anyone got a link?

found it, have not listened yet

http://www.alexjonespodcasts.com/ccount ... php?id=225

[Large Sarge]

I am listening to the show, I hear alan watt, no david icke...

[MikeWB]

I am listening to the show, I hear alan watt, no david icke...

I haven't listened to Alan Watt (can't stand him) but Icke is one of the guests in 2nd hour. Keiser came on after him. Alan Watt is in 3rd & 4th hour.

Oh, and AJ said that Alan Watt is the main guy in his new movie.  :lol:

Icke really nails so many issues and he has some of the best explanations of control systems you'll come across but when he goes into reptilian crap, I cringe. Maybe he's consciously or subconsciously substituting reptilians for Zios.

If I were close to any place where he's giving lectures, I'd definitely go. He apparently now gives an 8hr long lecture.

[sean r]

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[Rockclimber]

And you know what AJ says? He says: "So you're saying that Rothschilds are bigger than Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family?"

Unbelievable! That man is a total idiot and a shill.

No frickin way...if there is an person left on this board who still trusts this man, my question if what is your major malfunction?

I will try to stomach this broadcast...between the shilling/gatekeeping/protectionism/lizard rants/white people/crown did it nonsense.  :lol:

[Rockclimber]

It is now absolutely obvious that Icke was all along using the lizards as an allegory/metaphor for Zionist Jews!  I, and really almost everyone else, KNEW this, but it is now apparent that this is exactly what has been happening all along, and all of that other stuff that he was talking about regarding people's perceptions not being what they thought that they were *supposed Lizard ability of cloaking and bending light, etc.* appears to be allegories to the absolute control of media, especially Talmudvision!  

It is about damned time that Icke stop making himself look foolish to those who are not aware of what he was doing; welcome to the REAL fight, David.

LINDSEY

Icke and Rense. I will borrow a term: turd in the punch bowl (until they shed the nonsense.)

[maz]

I am listening to the show, I hear alan watt, no david icke...

I haven't listened to Alan Watt (can't stand him) but Icke is one of the guests in 2nd hour. Keiser came on after him. Alan Watt is in 3rd & 4th hour.

Oh, and AJ said that Alan Watt is the main guy in his new movie.  :lol:

Icke really nails so many issues and he has some of the best explanations of control systems you'll come across but when he goes into reptilian crap, I cringe. Maybe he's consciously or subconsciously substituting reptilians for Zios.

If I were close to any place where he's giving lectures, I'd definitely go. He apparently now gives an 8hr long lecture.

You'd better be prepared to lay down some serious duckets from what I've heard. Some guy on the Prison Planet forums is a musician and apparently is going to open for David Icke in Phoenix I think.

[memory hole]

Icke's been ranting about the rothschils in dozens of his mearandering books.

lol, spitting it out on the AJ show tho!

He can see the tide turning now in our movement and hes jumpin on board.

 Great, just drop the fucking lizards for fucks sake.

Icke is more of a buisiness man than a shill i rekon. Introduced me to the conspriacy world also, until as most do, we move onwards and upwards.

[gurdgieff]

I think it was the lizard stuff that got him attention from millions of people.

[satya]

His name is already mud.  In fact, him saying it's the Zionist Jews now may hurt the movement because he is a laughing stock to most people.  He is only good for maybe waking up the Rense, Coast to Coast types who believe absolutely anything.

[scorpio]

Icke and Rense. I will borrow a term: turd in the punch bowl (until they shed the nonsense.)

That is the very term AJ called Icke on a vid I saw. What made them kiss and make up?  

Icke takes the whole reptoid thing VERY seriously, in my opinion. He has created a cult around it.
He charges $200+ for one of his marathon, mind numbing  8hr+ seminars.
He seems to write a new book every year that says the same stuff that the book before it did.
Gotta make a livin' somehow, eh?  :lol:

[Rockclimber]

That is the very term AJ called Icke on a vid I saw. What made them kiss and make up?  

Two words...MONEY & RATINGS

Icke takes the whole reptoid thing VERY seriously, in my opinion. He has created a cult around it.
He charges $200+ for one of his marathon, mind numbing  8hr+ seminars.
He seems to write a new book every year that says the same stuff that the book before it did.
Gotta make a livin' somehow, eh?  :lol:

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[Jenny Lake]

I love the spirit around here. I came to learn from you guys and I always do. Here's a piece of a piece from John Kaminski.

________________________________

Why, oh, why does everybody hate the Jews?

Is it a question we can even ask anymore?

In many places it's now illegal to talk about certain Jewish subjects. It's OK to bash the Catholics and the Muslims — in fact, it's encouraged; just look at the N.Y. papers — but nothing bad may be said about Jews, according to law in many countries.

The famous Afro-American general Colin Powell once said it's anti-Semitic to talk about Israel's criminal behavior, even as they kill Palestinian children to steal their organs. And plenty of people are in jail for pointing out that the notorious Auschwitz gas chambers weren't actually built until AFTER WORLD WAR II ENDED.

Very soon it will be a crime to point out that U.S. President Obama's top adviser is the son of a Mossad agent, and that the White House in Washington has been actually controlled by wealthy Jewish manipulators since BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE 20th CENTURY.

And why, oh, why do you suppose that you can walk into any Wal-mart and buy any number of Scofield-based Bibles (the ones evangelicals use that have been slanted to favor the Jews) but never, oh, never will you be able to buy a copy of the Soncino Talmud, which tells THE SECRET TALES OF THE JEWS IN ALL THEIR REVOLTING DEPRAVITY (like rabbis having oral sex with children and calling it a religious ritual).

And if you even say any of these things I've just said, you are automatically excluded from virtually all of the Internet's most popular websites: Uruknet, Alex Jones, Online Journal, Global Research, Information Clearinghouse, Salon.com and the like. You simply can't point out that Jews have exerted a disproportionate AND detrimental influence in ALL spheres of existence. FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN REMEMBER THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE.

All the media you ingest each day is totally Jewish. So subjects casting Jews in a bad light are almost automatically excluded from the information you receive, unless they are too big to contain, like the rabbis selling stolen kidneys in New Jersey.

Or the removal of trillions of dollars from the U.S. to Israel through this sieve of a government we pretend to have.

Or our presidents sacrificing thousands of American lives — our best citizens — to phony foreign wars being fought for Jewish interests. Can you conceive of a plot for the destruction of the American army that would be more effective than the present plan now being implemented?

But surely we can talk about these things if we use another name instead of the magic word. We can call them Zionists, or Communists, or anarchists, or liberals, or the Illuminati, or even Straussian neocons.

But if we use any of these terms, we are accessories after the fact, helping them hide from the responsibility of their not-so-secretive misdeeds by their endless use of false flag labels, which through total control of media throws investigators off the track of the real criminals, who are clearly the leaders of the world Jewish community.

The rest of this essay is not yet posted at http://www.JohnKaminski.info

[scorpio]

Jenny -excellent article.
I came here to try and learn as well.
Thanks

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Saying it's lizard people sells books. Saying it's Jews gets you an eviction notice and all your debts called in.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

His name is already mud.  In fact, him saying it's the Zionist Jews now may hurt the movement because he is a laughing stock to most people.  He is only good for maybe waking up the Rense, Coast to Coast types who believe absolutely anything.

Which "movement" are you a part of? People like Icke and Alex Jones are businessman not visionaries. They are selling you "truth". And truth is subjective, everyone has their own version of it. They are telling people what they want to hear, stuff they can believe without getting too specific. Their use of euphemisms is legendary and keeps people in a constant state of going nowhere; which is exactly where they want them. They provide people with a taste that is just salty enough to be addictive and keep them coming back for more. "Truth" = Money  .

P.S. I doubt Icke cares whether he's a laughing stock to most people... all he cares about is that he has more money than you.

[scorpio]

... And truth is subjective, everyone has their own version of it. They are telling people what they want to hear, stuff they can believe without getting too specific.

'Truth' also depends on whether or not you have any credible references or facts to back up your version of it.
As I recall, Icke doesn't have any credible evidence to back up his 'shape shifting reptillians rule all' theory.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

... And truth is subjective, everyone has their own version of it. They are telling people what they want to hear, stuff they can believe without getting too specific.

'Truth' also depends on whether or not you have any credible references or facts to back up your version of it.
As I recall, Icke doesn't have any credible evidence to back up his 'shape shifting reptillians rule all' theory.

Most people don't care whether a source is 'credible' or not. People believe what they want to believe that's all there is to it. And what makes a source 'credible'? We have so called structural engineers and experts telling us that two 110 story buildings and a 47 story steel skyscraper plummeting to the earth at nearly free-fall speed does not require the assistance of explosives. There is no such thing as a credible source. You can only trust your own judgment.

[thirdeyewise]

he will always be linked to his "lizard theory" and therefore will always be seen as the loon by the mainstream!

[scorpio]

Most people don't care whether a source is 'credible' or not. People believe what they want to believe that's all there is to it. And what makes a source 'credible'? We have so called structural engineers and experts telling us that two 110 story buildings and a 47 story steel skyscraper plummeting to the earth at nearly free-fall speed does not require the assistance of explosives. There is no such thing as a credible source. You can only trust your own judgment.

So what you are saying is why bother to read or get any facts - just make up your own mind without any reasearch?
Facts are facts and you have to search them out. Truth is not subjective 2+2=4 not 5.
You can believe it is 5 all you want, but it doesn't make it true.
I don't think there is anyone here at tiu that thinks those buildings just fell over.
You must obtain information before your own judgment has any value.
I agree with you that your own judgment is what's most important, but you must seek knowledge first.
Otherwise it is based on ignorance.
( I checked out you 911 blog - excellent!)

[hurensohn]

Well when Alex Jewns spoke about Cooper it said everything about him.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Most people don't care whether a source is 'credible' or not. People believe what they want to believe that's all there is to it. And what makes a source 'credible'? We have so called structural engineers and experts telling us that two 110 story buildings and a 47 story steel skyscraper plummeting to the earth at nearly free-fall speed does not require the assistance of explosives. There is no such thing as a credible source. You can only trust your own judgment.

So what you are saying is why bother to read or get any facts - just make up your own mind without any reasearch?

No, what I'm saying is that 'credibility' is in the eye of the beholder. Most people would undoubtedly believe a structural engineer telling them that the twin towers just mysteriously self-demolished over me who is telling them it's impossible without explosives. Since he has an "expert" status, to most people his opinion has more validity than mine, even though what he is saying is clearly contrived bullshit. How are we to tell whether a source is credible or not? Well, you can only trust your own discernment ability.

[Chargeemquick]

And you know what AJ says? He says: "So you're saying that Rothschilds are bigger than Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family?"

There`s only one way to take that comment.
As a plain admission that Uncle Deathcult is a KNOWING shill,and he does`nt care who knows it.

[Large Sarge]

Most people don't care whether a source is 'credible' or not. People believe what they want to believe that's all there is to it. And what makes a source 'credible'? We have so called structural engineers and experts telling us that two 110 story buildings and a 47 story steel skyscraper plummeting to the earth at nearly free-fall speed does not require the assistance of explosives. There is no such thing as a credible source. You can only trust your own judgment.

So what you are saying is why bother to read or get any facts - just make up your own mind without any reasearch?

No, what I'm saying is that 'credibility' is in the eye of the beholder. Most people would undoubtedly believe a structural engineer telling them that the twin towers just mysteriously self-demolished over me who is telling them it's impossible without explosives. Since he has an "expert" status, to most people his opinion has more validity than mine, even though what he is saying is clearly contrived bullshit. How are we to tell whether a source is credible or not? Well, you can only trust your own discernment ability.

some of this is cognitive dissonance, refusal to believe.

but you are right, with the control these criminals have, they can put out a discovery channel program, explaining why all 9/11 truthers are nutcases....

the internet is leveling the playing field, and hopefully young folks will realize where the real news is at (on the web)

some folks will simply "never get it"