China Gripped By Conspiracy Theories

Started by MikeWB, December 05, 2009, 10:22:13 PM

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MikeWB

QuoteChina Gripped By Conspiracy Theories
December 6, 2009
Martin McCauley writes: The Communist Party of China has long been sticking to one important rule: if something went badly wrong, the malevolent forces abroad were to blame. This has once again been the case with the violent riots in Tibet and, later, in Xinjiang that were supposedly 'orchestrated from abroad'. This sort of attitude reflects a communist view of the world. Since the Party has convinced itself that it has created the conditions for the 'harmonious development' of the Chinese society, any violent disruption of this has to be a result of conspiracies that originate abroad.
There is a certain twisted logic in this way of thinking. Promoting democracy, for instance, for many Chinese leaders, represents a Western conspiracy designed to weaken China. Human rights are also part of this conspiracy, aimed at undermining the authority of the Communist Party. Those outside, who wish to undermine China, this thinking goes, insist on providing equal rights for all individuals, but in reality want to interfere into Chinese affairs and undermine the stability of the country.
China, according to the official point of view, has suffered a hundred years of humiliation at the hands of the West, from the mid-19th century to 1949 when the People's Republic was finally established. China's frailty, we are told, was the result of weak leadership and an inability to defend the country against foreign 'conspirators'. These people sought to impose their ideas of modernisation on the Chinese, attempting to turn China into a colony of the West.
There were two main currents of political thought in China before 1949. One was liberalism and the other communism. The former was based on individualism, free enterprise, free thought and equality before the law. This was fine for the educated and those who had or could make money. The vast majority of the population remained outside this magic world. Communism, on the other hand, had more resonance with the ordinary Chinese. It was collectivist with everyone working for the social good. It was authoritarian which promised strong leadership. Mao Zedong simply became the red Emperor. The communist bureaucrats were the new mandarins. Mao propagated egalitarianism. However, after 30 years of communism peasants were still dirt poor. Deng Xiaoping had lived in France and England and had some understanding of a capitalist market economy. So market reforms were introduced in 1978. This allowed peasants, for instance, to go back to their farms and continue living as they had in the past.
Why were Western economic ideas accepted but Western political ideas were not? Western theory posited that a market economy could only flourish if were embedded in a democratic political culture. China has turned this Western concept on its head. An authoritarian Communist Party seeks to suppress dissent and prevent the dissemination of anti-regime views. Growth rates over the last thirty years have averaged about 10 per cent a year - a phenomenal performance.
Globalisation is seen as a threat to the Communist Party. If China is to become a world leader it must share some of the values of the international community. These include human rights for minorities. They have a right to be different. So one is back to Tibet and Xinjiang. However, if they are granted autonomy in culture, religion and education, why should others, such as the Han Chinese not enjoy similar privileges? The Party's power would begin to unravel.
It is easier to believe that the troubles in the non-Han areas of China are the work of foreign 'devils' than to accept that they are the result of domestic policies. If they are home grown, something has to be done to resolve the problems which have emerged. That is a slippery slope which the comrades in Beijing do not want to ride.
But nevertheless conspiracy theories are still popular among the Chinese, especially the ones that are supposedly targeted at China. How about this: the main target of the global financial meltdown was actually China from the very start? Only in this way could China be stopped from becoming the world's leading power. Song Hongbing's novel Currency Wars meanders through the last two hundred years following the malevolent activities of international bankers, first and foremost the Rothschilds, aided and abetted during the last century by the US Federal Reserve. They are blamed for all the calamities which have befallen the world. Communism, for obvious reasons, is not seen as a calamity.
The author inisists that China does not need to follow Western advice - from floating the yuan to opening up its capital markets. It is all a conspiracy to halt the country's advance to world dominance.
Anyone who is looking to write a blockbuster which will top the bestseller list, needs to look no further. Analyse current world politics, from Islamic fundamentalism to African tribal conflict, as a vast, coordinated conspiracy against China's interests. The Chinese readers will love it!
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MikeWB

from wikipedia:

QuoteCurrency Wars, by Song Hongbing, is a bestselling book in China, reportedly selling over 200,000 copies and is reportedly being read by many senior level government and business leaders in China. Originally published in 2007 the book gained a resurgence in 2009 and is seen as a prominent exponent of a recently emerged genre labeled "economic nationalist" literature. Another bestselling book within this genre is Unhappy China, however, unlike this and other books within this genre, Currency Wars has been received more positively by the Chinese leadership as its recommendations are seen as less aggressive towards the US. The premise of this book is that Western countries are ultimately controlled by a group of private banks, which according to the book runs their central banks. This book cites the fact that the Federal Reserve is a private body to support its role.

According to the book, the western countries in general and the US in particular are controlled by this clique of international bankers, who uses currency manipulation(hence the title) to gain wealth by first loaning money in USD to these developing nations and then shorting their currency. The Japanese Lost decade, the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, the Latin American financial crisis and others are attributed to this cause. It also claims that the Rothschild Family has the wealth of 5 trillion dollars whereas Bill Gates only has 40 billion dollars.

In addition, the book also goes back in history and argues that fiat currency itself is a conspiracy; it sees in the abolishing of representative currency and the installment of fiat currency a struggle between the "banking clique" and the governments of the western nations, ending in the victory of the former. It advises the Chinese government to keep a vigilant eye on China's currency and instate a representative currency.

The book's author predicted a banking crisis in the US in 2008.
The book may also be called The Currency War.


I don't dispute any of the points presented here. This book is not a conspiratorial book at all. It's the truth.

I wish there was an English translation of it...
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mgt23

i was looking into currency wars a few days ago. i will have a word with my chinese contacts and if there is an english version, i dont see why there wouldnt be.

jai_mann

This is interesting to see that it is at least known that this game is being played by the bankers. I don't know how this will play out with China though as I would expect that Jews have intermarried with ruling families given this practice elsewhere. They may already be in command and control positions over there for all we know.

sirbadman

Comunism was invented by Jewish people and China's communist party is ultimately run by the same Jewish central banking mafia.

China also has the best goy slaves you will find anywhere. How many of you have met real Red mainland Chinese? Talk about brainwashed nutcases.

The china bubble has to pop sometime, but probably not for a few years. Not til its way-undervalued yuan ensures the decimation of the West's manufacturing ability. So that could be a couple of years I guess.

Would have been a lot harder for the jewminati to follow the protocols and devastate economies around the world if the Chinese workers did not make such compliant slaves.

There's no way Indians would put up with half the crap Chinese workers take in their stride. Dont why people claim the Chinese are intelligent - for the most part they are not at all. Especially the mainland ones.

MikeWB

Quote from: "sirbadman"Comunism was invented by Jewish people and China's communist party is ultimately run by the same Jewish central banking mafia.

That's faulty logic. Just because someone has invented something doesn't mean that a user of it is involved with them. Chinese are no dummies... they've trained their smartest econ people in US and they know all the banker tricks. And their banking was always part of their machine and Jews were never able to infiltrate it. Their central bank is NOT private. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Bank_of_China
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sirbadman

Hah.. you think the PBC is independent... you think China is free from these guys? Who funded Mao against the Guomingdang?

I have to go to bed.. but there are plenty of jewish run companies investing and manufacturing in China.

The GATT treaty, made by banksters and signed by puppet leaders around the world helped pave the way for the industrialisation of China at the expense of western manufacturing.

Do you think Soros is a good guy too?

Why is Soros calling for China to lead the NWO?

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/soros-china-world-order/

Lets face it, a country with one party rule is even easier to control than a country with the two major party setup under democratic pretences.

I seriously dont even know how you think China is not controlled by the jewminati. Look at what the country is allowed to get away with man. They aren't playing fairly at all. The yuan is hell cut price. And the people in China are more under the thumb than most other countries.

Jewish communities have been in China for ages too.

thirdeyewise

China is an ongoing Jewish experiment, no one denies that.

Mao & Sidney Rittenberg

The most powerful person and the driving force behind the New World Order in the U.S. for the last few decades has been David Rockefeller. In an article in the New York Times, 10 August 1973, he was quoted: Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Jenny Lake

Quotebut there are plenty of jewish run companies investing and manufacturing in China.
...this without question. I stumbled into it researching a thread related to Hayden Communications Inc. (HCI) http://www.hcinternational.net/about.asp belonging to Matthew Hayden who is involved in Debt-for-Nature as a beneficiary of opportunities. If my email hadn't been hacked and lost on 11/11 I'd post a slew of very slick-looking corporate webpages and show you the Jewish-run conglomerates of mining/chemicals/medicine/additives and just about everything. Hayden specializes in 'small-cap' investing and ties right into the big hedge-funds. Absolutely the Chinese play ball. They've had their scientists training here too, and other zio-capitols to stay on a par in weaponization. Back in the day, Rockefellers set up the China Medical Board (1909) and Peking University and had every sort of geologic, anthropologic, archeologic expeditions...they had an intense interest in China, always from what I can tell.

MikeWB

Jewish influence on Chinese banking is highly overstated. If they had any influence, they'd unpeg their currency. Everything that chinese are doing right now is against the west and against the Rothschild banks. All this other anti-communist propaganda is ancient history is a distraction.
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Father Brown

Quote from: "MikeWB"Jewish influence on Chinese banking is highly overstated. If they had any influence, they'd unpeg their currency. Everything that chinese are doing right now is against the west and against the Rothschild banks. All this other anti-communist propaganda is ancient history is a distraction.
Wrong. If they unpegged their currency, we wouldn't be able to afford their plastic junk. Then they would be in a lot more trouble.

MikeWB

Quote from: "Father Brown"
Quote from: "MikeWB"Jewish influence on Chinese banking is highly overstated. If they had any influence, they'd unpeg their currency. Everything that chinese are doing right now is against the west and against the Rothschild banks. All this other anti-communist propaganda is ancient history is a distraction.
Wrong. If they unpegged their currency, we wouldn't be able to afford their plastic junk. Then they would be in a lot more trouble.

Yeah, but US/UK banking would be in a better position! Which further proves my point that Chinese care more about them than about Rothschilds and their banking. They've pegged their currency so they can sell more stuff and increase the indebtedness of the West.
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mgt23

this china issue is very important as is this thread we need some more research and opinions on this.

kolnidre

Quote from: "mgt23"i was looking into currency wars a few days ago. i will have a word with my chinese contacts and if there is an english version, i dont see why there wouldnt be.

I have the book and have read it.

The Wiki summary is correct, as is Mike about its factuality. One look at the bibliography and it looks like it was compiled from a user of the Concen tracker, and I mean that in mostly a good way. It lays down the history of fiat currency, the Fed, the world wars and financing of them, and the central banking scam. I found it did that adequately, although not in an original way that showed the author really grasped the consequences of the information or had a unique perspective on it. This makes the conclusions seem a bit sudden and disconnected from the rest of the book, and has opened - rightly or not - the author to criticism of just translating a bunch of materials from English and tacking on some views relevant to China. He's also come under fire for misrepresenting or overstating his work experience in the U.S. - about which I am not certain and can't attest to, not wanting to follow shit storms about messengers rather than messages.

So while it's not a great book, it's been a very important publication for China. As the people there are only just getting to know the world outside it introduces a lot of cold hard facts about how that world has been set up, and hopefully gives them pause about whether they want to go along with it and/or have that same system lord over them as well. That it was published by CITIC, established by none other than mouse-catcher Deng Xiaoping himself, is very telling, i.e. it had very high official sanction.
http://www.citic.com/wps/portal/citicen

Given that it relies so heavily on books like G. Edward Griffin's The Creature from Jekyll Island and other reaily available works in English, I don't think a translation would really be very interesting or helpful. I'd rather see someone with a grasp of the same facts relate China's history and current position to that information in a more thoughtful way.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

sirbadman

Mike what makes you think the jewminati give a stuff about the US or UK economy? They want to financially ruin all economies in the world according to the Protocols.

It has always been about starving and breaking everyone into submission financially.

Now look at China, you have a country with so many people, and so many which were subsidence farmers. How do you income tax subsidence farmers?

Well how were all the English peasants kicked off the land?

The industrial revolution, that and the agrarian revolution.

Anyway China is having its industrial revolution and if it doesnt stick to its 8%pa growth the Chinese will throw a few more riots or worse, go back to the country and subsidence farm or something.

Subsidence farmers make bankers cry. They're not playing the game. Of course the farmers in developed countries are already screwed because they get forced into buying monsanto seeds etc, plus bureacratic hassles.

Anyway the more people working in this rigged global financial system means more $$ for the banksters who issue the currencies and  also more growth which is required to keep the debt-based financial system chugging along.

Watch "Money as Debt 2" online to get a better idea.

China has the most people, it's a no brainer why this country gets special treatment.

 Plus it has the best goy slaves and such a handy controlled domineering government, forged by the cultural revolution.