DisInfo Agent Nico Haupt Arrested @ 9/11 Protest

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DisInfo Agent Nico Haupt Arrested @ 9/11 Protest

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12.5.2009 New York City Eric Holder Protest.

WeAreCHANGE activists physically assaulted at Ground Zero
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15135

Is Nico Haupt a COINTELPRO Operative? Alex Jones
http://www.infowars.com/is-nico-haupt-a ... e-2/?cp=20

No-Planer Cointelpro Operation Becoming Transparent
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data ... 1218648029

COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of covert operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These psy-ops tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.
Typical of the above outlined methods, No Planers have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.
WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the groups members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers Plane Huggers, to claiming Alex Jones works for ABC and is covering up for the media, Haupts tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates waterboarding Plane Huggers

[Rockclimber]

It's one of those AJ stunts...get arrested so you can get your name there. Any attention is good attention.

[Christopher Marlowe]

One of the referenced sites says that

Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers "Plane Huggers", to claiming "Alex Jones works for ABC" and is "covering up for the media",

I think Haupt would find a lot of company on this site who also believe that Jones is "covering up for the media".  

The "Info Wars" site shows that the cops wouldn't arrest Haupt for assault after Haupt pushed a "We Are Change" guy. The cops wouldn't arrest Haupt, and the IW video seems to suggest that the cops are in on the fix by supporting Haupt. IMHO, I don't think the cops wanted to arrest anyone because they know that a minor assault like the one depicted on the video would result in a lot of court time, expense, and a very minor conviction.  I think its a real stretch to say that the cops are protecting Haupt because he is working for the big people.

It looks like Haupt is probably a little brain damaged, and has probably had a history of homelessness, drug use and bi-polar disorder. Yes, I'm sure he gets a check every week, signed by the Rothschilds.  He probably has tea with Evelyn Rothschild.

I think there are some good things done by "We Are Change", like continually investigating the events that transpired on 9/11, and confronting globalists and politicians on issues like 9/11 and global warming. I've seen a lot of good vids done by them, especially the LA chapter. They got a little Jewish guy in that group who says that israhell did 9/11, and who confronts israelis and other Jews with the Truth. The LA chapter also did a video where the confronted David Frum, who was promoting his book at UCLA. They told Frum he was a traitor and would be punished for treason when the Truth came out. Then they pointed their camera at Frum, who made frowny faces and tried to give himself cancer.  Good stuff.  

It is unfortunate that We Are Change is associated with Alex Jones because AJ is a big, fat liar. I say he is a liar because he says that the A-Rabs control Hollywood and wall street. I say AJ is fat because he drinks lard and bathes in bacon grease. I don't think AJ's fatness is related to his lying, but I wouldn't trust AJ to hold my sandwich.  

I don't believe there is a ready answer to the "No Planes" theory. As with many aspects of 9/11, we get toward an epistemological discussion: "How do we know what we know?"  How many people actually "saw" the planes on 9/11? Well, if the planes were going about 500 mph, and the witness' view was the limited patch of sky between the buildings on one side of the WTC, very few. Of the people who were actually in the city and saw the explosions, how many watched the planes on TV afterward and thereby contaminated their own memory?

I don't know what hit the WTC. I believe that some of the videos the purport to show the second plane are fakes. The CNN video was shot by a diamond merchant out of Los Angeles, from an angle that cannot be duplicated. There are many people who have gone to New York and cannot find the perspective depicted in the CNN video. Also, that video shows the plane completely disappear into the tower, with no parts snapping off; the building seems to close up after the plane enters in, as if those the steel outer columns were a semi-permeable membrane.  The videographer was captured on audio saying that he would not reveal his vantage point because his lawyer told him not to.  Yeah, right.  What liability would he be opening up by revealing his perspective?  The only people who could sue would be CNN, and that would be for fraud.  Producing a fake video would only be actionable if you stated that it was real, intending that the person would rely on your misrepresentation and purchased your video on that reliance.  

That CNN should produce a fake so soon after 9/11 is very strange.  Fake videos do not happen by accident, and the nearness in time suggests foreknowledge.  

There are many other anomalies displayed in the "no plane" videos that lend credence to their argument. The live videos don't seem to match up with the later released videos.   Planes are either not present when the should be, or their trajectory is different.

The same anomalies occur in DC, where Capitol Police give testimony that the planes approached the pentagon from a different angle than the one given by other eyewitnesses and in the  official account.  

Did a plane hit the WTC?  Did a plane hit the pentagon? I don't know. I'm not married to any any theory. WRH suggests that people who doubt that a plane hit the pentagon are shitting in the punch bowl. DBS says the WRH is shitting in the punchbowl by presenting pentagon no-planers as crazy, when there is so much evidence casting doubt on that theory. "We Are Change" is saying the Haupt is shitting in the punchbowl by questioning planes at the WTC.  IMHO, Haupt is probably an unintentional turd in the punchbowl no matter what he says.  Let's face it: Haupt is not a great spokesman for anything other than free mental health programs.      

Who is shitting in the punchbowl?  I don't know. Discussions of this nature get confused because we can't be sure about all our data. Some is real and some has been deliberately faked. I don't doubt that 9/11 was planned with the intent that it should be difficult to explain. The towers were demolished in front of everyone and yet many people cannot yet accept the fact that steel buildings DO NOT fall like that because of fire. Buildings do not turn into dust without explosives, but I personally know a mechanical engineer who still fails to grasp that fact.

Cognitive studies have shown that people give a greater weight to the information they take in first. We watched the plane hit the tower; we watched the tower fall; we were told that OBL did it all from a cave in Afghanistan. Eight years later many people have left that information where they originally placed it, preeminent over "controlled demolition", "israel did it", and "no planes".  

The solution remains to be scientific: test theories and make new ones to replace those that fail. I believe israel did it because there is SO MUCH circumstantial evidence. I believe the towers were demolished by explosives because the physics arguments are so strong. I don't know what hit the buildings, but I think many of the videos are fake. I am sure the CNN video is a fake.
 
It won't change my opinion too much if planes hit the towers, or missiles, or "planes that were not the real planes" hit the towers. If there were no planes, then what?  
Then the media is complicit. Hell, I KNOW the media is complicit.
Then the REAL PLANES went elsewhere. Yeah, but no matter where they went everyone on board is probably dead by now.

All the knowledge from the PLANES/NO PLANES doesn't really add to what we know. Anything the is rock solid fact that exposes the Truth is always helpful, but this branch of the discussion seems to promote a lot of antagonism within the Truth movement. I don't think this antagonism is proof that "no planes" is a punchbowl floater, but rather points towards many in the Truth movement being ornery.  And, of course, some among us have brain damage.