Turkey overcoming Zionist Influence?

[high_treason]

Opinionated piece:

Turkey has been a staunch ally of Israel ever since the Young Turks (Donmeh and crypto Jews) came to power with the establishment of Israel. Turkey and Iran (during the Shah days) were the first two Muslim countries to establish relations with them. However with the Iranian Khomeni led revolution and the Jusitice and development party of Turkey coming to power, the roles have reversed.

Israel's traditional enemies Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia becoming a staunch ally to America and by extention Israel and on the other hand Turkey siding with Palestine, Islamic republic of Iran and Syria. To realize how this change came to be we have to look back a few decades ago. The reversal of the roles for Egypt came after the war of 1973 and the camp David peace accords of 1978, from 1970 to 1972 President Anwar Al Saddat expelled the Soviet technician and military advisors from Egypt because he believed they were spying on Egypt and retired the old guard of Nasserists and Socialists, which further proves how the Soviet Union was an extention of the Jewish world order and the reason he did accepted peace was because Egypt became bankrupt and lacked weapons since no country was willing to sell arms to Egypt and the coup of 1952 of the Jew Nasser caused Egypt to spend all its wealth on socialist revolutions in Algeria, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lybia and many other countries and not to mention two disastrous wars one in Yemen and the 1967 Israeli attack and the breakup of Egypt from Sudan which crippled Egypt's economy further and not to mention the rampant corruption of Nasser and his minions who plundered Egypt's gold and made billionairs out of them the latest of which was the double agent Nasser's own son in law the Billionair and gunrunner Ashraf Marwan who was assassinated in 2005 in London by Egyptian Intelligence.

While Jordan's King Hussain is believed to have been a double agent after the Black September failed Palestinian coup in Jordan, in which Nasser sided with Arafat in establishing a Palestinian state within Jordan caused the Jordanian to feel betrayed and he switched alliagence and sought help from the US inexchange he would provide them with any information regarding war and Arab plans, as for the other silent agent as he was called back then it was King Mohamed the 4th of Morocco, who worked in secret with the Mossad and had his top advisor/handler a Jew called André Azoulay. As for Saudi Arabia which poses as the citedal of Sunni Islam in the world is living in a Schizophrenia on the one hand they are peddling an extreme form of Islam called wahhabism and on the other hand have single handedly brought the Americans to the region and allowed the establishment of US military bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, UAE and an invasion of Iraq. Now we are even seeing a new base being established in Yemen very soon in exchange for Yemen's entry in to the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council).

As for Turkey's Justice and Development party was known before as Hizb Al Rafah, which was a genuine Islamic movement that sought to reconnect Turkey with its Islamic roots (not related to the Masonic Muslim Brotherhood) and steer it away from the Secularist military Junta that was established by Kemal Attaturk and ruled until recently. The party was banned and many of its members imprisoned until early this decade when they renamed the pary as Justice and Development party and have been elected to power for several years. This has caused a schism between Turkey and its role as the Nato base of the Middle Eastand a strong supporter of the US and Israel, the first signs of which occured during the invasion of Iraq when Turkey refused to have its airspace used by the US to strike Iraq. Followed by cold relations with Israel and trying to pressure the Israeli government in to brokering a peace with Syria and giving back the Golan heights (occupied during the 1967 war). Israel has felt that its grip is slipping away from Turkey and didn't want a second Islamic Republic of Iran like front opening up against it so they opted for the Ergenekon an ultra nationalist Kemalist pro Israeli clandestine organization. With its main connection with Israel's notorious Mossad through Rabbi Tuncay Güney and his Israeli girlfriend (Handler), who was arrested for selling fake licenses for luxurious cars. The Turkish media named it the case of the century with many other organizations being funded and connected to the Ergenekon which had a modus operandi as the Nato led Operation Gladio, some of those organizations were the PKK, Hizbu-Allah (Turkish) and Hizbu Al Tahrir (Turkish) all have been artificially created according to senior intelligence officer Bülent Orakoğlu in Zaman Magazine. The danger of the Ergenekon is that it has been operating in Turkey for many decades it has been identified as a deep state I would add that it is probably made up from the Donmeh's decendents.

Turkey's move towards Iran and Syria is not only ideologically motivated it is also geopolitically, just like Mike Scheuer said about Israel being of insignificance to the USA and a negative association, so is Israel to Turkey, they don't share a border and their trade is minimal except in arms which Turkey acquires from its Nato allies anyway. Turkey's biggest threat is from a breakaway Kurdistan state, as Kurds are present in large numbers in Iran, Iraq, Syria and of course Turkey. Siding with them would bring a united front against a threat to Turkey. with the strong connection between the Ergenekon and Mossad this was the straw that broke the camel's back and was a main motivator for Erdogan's outburst during Davos in 2009. We can also see this in the media with the no.1 TV show in Turkey "Ayrilik"  about the struggle of the Palestinians in occupied Palestine aka Israel and another show known as "Valley of the wolves" which accurately depicts the Israelis as baby snatchers and organ thieves. Despite Israeli protests and mistreatment of Turkish diplomats, Turkey is still on track in breaking away from the zionist/Jewish grip. Now I leave you with a couple of clips from Turkish TV, I hope you enjoy it even if you can't speak the language a picture is worth a thousand words.

A Clip from Ayrilik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M596Ga8-rmU

A Clip from Valley of the wolves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu8hmLvateE

 
High Treason

P.S. English is not my first language so please excuse any grammatical or spelling mistakes.

[ehpg]

Don't be fooled by the propaganda. first of all your info is patchy and incomplete to put it lightly, Sadat was a Zionist shill and Nasser was a patriot and a good Muslim who did more for Egypt and the Arab world than any other leader.

1. made education free for all
2. industrialized Egypt and all the lower economic class prospered he took all the Jewish owned businesses and nationalized them and distributed the wealth among the poor. before Nasser Egypt had no industry if you examine what the cost of that was to any other nation state you will find that the poor always suffered, but with Nasser the poor prospered and the economy grew as he Industrialized Egypt.
3. unified the Arab world or at least tried.
4. confiscated land from the rich and his own family to give to the poor.
5. lived a humble life (which made him harder to assassinate, how do you poison a man who always eats with his family or has his own cheese and bread everywhere he goes)
6. Nasser died a poor man, and if some of his kids did well it was on they're own accord and help of some loyal people
7. every Egyptian knows that Ashraf Marwan was a Mossad agent that was sent to get to Nasser through his daughter.

for more read Brief Biography of Gamal Abdel Nasser

Sadat destroyed allot of what Nasser did for Egypt.

1. Sadat kept Ashraf Marwan on and allot of other Mossad agents that Nasser was either unaware of or put in jail.
2. Sadat imprisoned and killed more Egyptians than any other leader in history (with exception of the Mameluke era)
3. Sadat wanted to float the Egyptian pound, but got killed by Mossad/CIA, before he could
4. Sadat betrayed Assad when the plan was to not stop until they were in tel-aviv during the 1973 "Yom Kippur" War (imagine if he did not, we would not be having this conversation, because Palestine would have been free)
5. traitor to Egypt, the Arabs, all Muslims and mankind alike, but a good friend for Israel

as for Turkey what have they done for the Palestinians besides put on a good show and make TV series (which would be the first that does not promote Judeo-Satanic values like all their other TV shows), what a bunch of non-sense.  

Speculation: I think they are most likely wanting to replace Jordan as the "official guardians to Jerusalem" so they can speed up the process of giving it to Israel with as little resistance as possible. so they put on a good show for the world to see, gain public support and help build the 3rd Temple.

[high_treason]

I never said my information in this piece was complete hence it is an opinionated piece, as for Nasser he was an agent for the Jews. I was born and raised in Egypt, I am half Egyptian and I can tell you that whatever show Nasser put on to the world was nothing like what was happening to the people and you clearly have bought in to his propoganda. I will address each point regarding Nasser that you have mentioned.

1. made education free for all

Actually he socialized it, causing the educational institutes to become a joke. I went to schools in Egypt you do not pass a subject unless you take private lessons with teachers since the whole socialist system is corrupt, paying bribes to school districts replaces tuition fees has been going on since the socialization of the system. Before he came to power Egypt had a large number of scientists and intellectuals to name a few Mustafa Musharafa, Samira Mousa, Taha Hussain along with many others who came from poor backgrounds and have proven themselves to be great assets for Egypt. Afte he came to power all the intellegencia is going abroad and not coming back like Ahmed Zowail, Farouq Al Baz to name a few.

2. Industrialized Egypt? Hardly, Egypt had a capitalist system and it was a constitutional monarchy with the parties sharing equal power, like Al Wafd, Misr al Fatah and many others. Industrialization was already there as well as a great agriculture wealth especially cotton which is now worthless since most of the farmers left there farms and moved in to the cities creating ghettoes (Oshwa`yat) which is causing problems now, we can't even feed ourselves we have to import wheat and grain. He didn't take business from the Jews only like Omar afendi, Checoral and Ads, he also took businesses away from everyone who had it and soldiers would walk in to your house and take whatever they want from you and you can't say anything otherwise you end up in one of his gulags. Emergency laws have been setup since he came to power until this point we have no freedom of speech.

The poor did not prosper in his days, the poor during King Farouq's reign the poor could afford eating meat after Nasser came to power apples were banned and meat became scarce only him and his minions like Abdelhakim Amer, Salah Nasr and company were enjoying to spoils while the rest of Egypt was hungry to feed the Arab nations which coincedently treat Egyptians badly now, with countries like Saudi Arabia whipping Egyptian doctors and Lybia sinking fishing boats. We did not prosper we became a very poor country from the theft festival that he ran.

3. Unified the Arab world or at least tried.

Hardly, during his reign he pushed us in to a civil war in Yemen, got us in to the Algerian revolt which if you haven't heard have recently beaten up Egyptians in Sudan, broke up Egypt from Sudan causing the current situation in Sudan and got us in to wars that we were not ready for, there are several TV shows I can refer you to all in Arabic though with his own men speaking about how we got involved in wars when we were not ready and were given random orders that further destroyed the army in 1967. Plus he was the main reason for Jordan turning against the Arabs and King Hussain turning to the Israelis and Americans when he sided with Arafat in establishing a country within Jordan.

4. Confiscated land from the rich...thats communism which is Jewish..so do you support communism?
and his own family? he came from a poor background his father was a postman he did not have land and when he did come to power he acquired all the lands and money that his sons and daughters have now.

5. The ones who assassinated him were Abdelhakim Amer's family it was for revenge. He did not live a humble life at all, when Egyptians were told not to eat apples and not to drive fancy cars, his daughter was driving a cadillac this is documented and she herself said that on TV in a recent interview on Dream TV and how she had apples come in boxes from Lebanon and anything she or her brothers wanted they had.

6. Poor man? You know his son Abdelhamid used to be my neighbour in the summerhouse I had in Alexandria, he is a multibillionar, so is Khaled...Khaled burnt the mercedes benz cars that were used by the government for foreign visitors when his father died saying they are his and since he cant have them he will burn them. They are all very wealthy now and thats not from the so called 4 pounds they found in his safe.

7. We all know Ashraf Marwan is a mossad agent and we are wondering how he allowed him if he was truly not a Jew or a Jew agent to become so close and know all the Army's plans.


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As for Saddat

1. He sidelined Ashraf and did not involve him in any military affairs since he did not want the legacy of Nasser to be shattered once people find out about Ashraf's treachery

2. Sadat opened up the gulags and got people out that is a blatant lie to say he killed and imprisoned more people than any other leader, Nasser had "zowar al Layl", like the Sevak, if you critisize Nasser or the government you disappear, many have been tortured and killed by his monsterousity to name a few

Sayd Qutb, Ali Amin, Mostafa Amin, Al Sheikh Kishk, Ahmed Foad Nijm and many others.

Also during Nasser, Salah Nasr the head of intelligence ran a brothel ring where they forced many actresses to perform sexual favors for Arab and military leaders. This is documented by Salah Nasr's own wife. He did it all with the blessing of Nasser.

3. Saddat had many enemies, both Arab and Israelis as well the socialist Nasserist Junta that wanted him dead because he removed their corrupt power and filth from Egypt. Even Mubarak is a potential suspect.

4. Saddat did not betray Assad at all, Egypt was facing most of the israeli army, Syria was facing 3 divisions only. We had our 3rd army surrounded and close to annihlation plus the gap of defresouiar and the barlif line the strongest defensive line ever built we could not attack any further without losing our entire force and have another 1967 disaster. This is from Egyptian and Syrian commanders testimony, I can refer you to them if you understand Arabic.

5. He was and still is an Egyptian hero, the Arabs did not help us since 1973, infact they treat us badly and say we are traitors, while they are all brown nosing for the US, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, even now Lybia they've all come around and are working hand in hand with the US and israel.

Saddat is the only person who managed to get his land in FULL back from the Jews, show me someone who ever did that. his priority is to his people Egyptians not the Arabs. But to his own country and he did that he is not responsible for Arafat refusing to come to camp david and siding with crazy Saddam.

All the Arabs decided that they will turn to Saddam and look where that got them.

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As for Turkey, I have been following Hizb Al Rafah (Justice and Development party) before they even came to power and they are trying to change Turkey and bring it back to its Islamic roots, they cannot do it suddenly, since a lot of Turks are brainwashed in to believing in the Attaturk legacy of secularism. But the Justice and Development party are heading in the right direction to break from the zionist Jews and donmeh. That is my opinion.

[ehpg]

Actually he socialized it, causing the educational institutes to become a joke. I went to schools in Egypt you do not pass a subject unless you take private lessons with teachers since the whole socialist system is corrupt, paying bribes to school districts replaces tuition fees has been going on since the socialization of the system. Before he came to power Egypt had a large number of scientists and intellectuals to name a few Mustafa Musharafa, Samira Mousa, Taha Hussain along with many others who came from poor backgrounds and have proven themselves to be great assets for Egypt. Afte he came to power all the intellegencia is going abroad and not coming back like Ahmed Zowail, Farouq Al Baz to name a few.

you mean to tell me these people were all around during Nasser's era? you are all over the place with the names and dates, they do not match, and it seems you are falling for current propaganda, Nasser is one of the most demonized leaders because of the threat he posed to the Zionists. education and industry in Egypt now are a joke but that is not because of Nasser, what did Sadat do to improve it or maintain it. during Nasser's era Egypt was leading the Arab world and Africa in education, Cairo University was one of the most prestigious schools in the MENA region if not the world
I know of alot of people in Egypt who never had a chance at getting an education without Nasser, and furthermore this argument (lies and propaganda) is only repeated by disgruntled sons of parasitic former pashas and wealthy land owners who use to suck the peoples blood dry and they were mostly Jews and Turks or Cryptojews. Nasser Confiscated land that was rightfully the Egyptian people's and was swindled from them, it was not a redistribution but rather restoration of ownership.

Nasser built the Steal Industry (Dekheila) and arms manufacturing (المصانع الحربية which also produced appliances) among many others that have been driven to the ground by his predecessors and later mostly privatized.  Industrialization in Egypt: Historical Development and Implications for Economic Policy

Yemen was not in a civil war, it was trying to gain it's Independence from a tyrannical regime when Saudi backed by world Jewry (see Faisal-Weizmann agreement of 1919) and the US invaded Yemen, Nasser went to help because he knew only through Arab unity that this Zionist monster could be defeated.
the Kalaa prison (سجن القلعة) was brutal place that was ran by Sadat and shut down by Mubarak (it was his contribution to "change") and the names you mentioned like Kishk (take a good look at his bio قصة حياة الشيخ عبدالحميد كشك ) was briefly imprisoned by Nasser but it was Sadat that finally killed him (died prying in his home but it was the Sadat's torture that did it), and Nasser was killed by his Egyptian Jewish doctor Dr. Aly El-Atfy (physhical therapist) who was arrested shortly after Nasser's Death and later released from jail following a visit from Began to Egypt. he bragged about this act in jail to Ahmed Foad Nigem and others
He also added that "they" don't leave there men behind like the Russians. Watch video in Arabic
Khalid Abdel Nasser does not seem to be a spoiled individual
as for Assad and his Triumph and betrayal also check out the book "Asad: The Struggle for the Middle East"

however I will have to agree that Nasser did implement the Emergency Law after the Lavon affair shame on him he should have let Jews carry out more false flags, and why did Sadat keep it after camp David.
you are either badly misinformed or an agent or both

PS: I would try to get a refund on those private lessons you got

[high_treason]

These people I mentioned were there before Nasser came to power,

Mustafa Musharafa Pasha: Atomic scientist, Einstein of Egypt and guess what he was as you call a "parasitic" Pasha who was assasinated by Mossad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Moustafa_Mosharafa

Samira Mousa: Physicist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sameera_Moussa

Taha Hussain: Academic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taha_Hussein

All were before Nasser. Were during the so called "Parasitic" Pasha's, the father of Egypt's enlightenment was Mohamed Ali Pasha, he was the one who forced education, built the largest army of his time and increased the borders of Egypt. Yet Nasser demonized him, without Mohamed Ali Pasha we could have ended up like the rest of the Arabs in Lybia, Saudi Arabia and the likes who just started building a proper infrastructure and nations in the 1960s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

He was the grandfather of King Farouq and managed to secure Egypt's independence from the Ottoman empire and raise Egypt from the oppression of the Mamluks. Yet Nasser demonized the father of modern Egypt and called him a foreign oppressor, so by the same Nasser Jew logic we can call the Arab Islamic conquest as foreign oppressors.

Egypt was leading the Arab and African world long before Nasser, as you call Cairo University was known as Fouad the first University founded in 1908, Egypt has always been and always will be the leading Arab nation due to its location, population and geography. It had nothing to do with Nasser, he never started the education of Egyptians, also his policy of free education he did not raise the salaries of the teachers instead kept it at the same rate, up until the 1970s a teacher got 3 to 4 pounds a month, thats socialism for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_University


- education and industry in Egypt now are a joke but that is not because of Nasser -

They are a joke because of him, he socialized Egypt, he had the socialist council (El Etihad al Eshteraky) running the country, if he was so anti-Jewish/zionist whatever then explain to me why would he chose a PURE JEWISH political/Economical system?


- argument (lies and propaganda) is only repeated by disgruntled sons of parasitic former pashas and wealthy land owners who use to suck the peoples blood dry and they were mostly Jews and Turks or Cryptojews -

Parasitic former Pashas and wealthy landowners? Do you realize how communist that sounds? if you are a communist then you do support the Jews. Those Pashas were given the title based on their achievments, Talat Harb (Egyptian) Pasha introduced capitalism to Egypt, Mustafa Musharafa (Egyptian) Pasha was a world reknowned atomic scientist, Ahmed Orabi (Egyptian) Pasha fought for the indepence of Egypt when Britian invaded, Saad Zaghloul Pasha (Egyptian) led the 1919 revolution. Who told you Pashas are parasites and crypto Jews, Turks? whoever told you this lied to you and you obviously need to do research better yet come to Egypt and meet with Egyptians in Egypt who will show you how Egypt was and what it became now due to the military coup of Nasser in 1952. The landowners did not exploit anyone this is propoganda that was spewed by the military junta of Nasser and the movies that were made after the coup. Please tell me how are these patriotic Egyptians are Jews, crypto Jews or even Turks?

- Nasser Confiscated land that was rightfully the Egyptian people's and was swindled from them, it was not a redistribution but rather restoration of ownership.-

He took it from Egyptians who were wealthy and said you are all equal no one will be rich all the same its called Communism, as I said if you support that then you are a communist and as I said before Communism is Judaism. It was a redistribution with the farmers getting sqwat while the Nasser's minions stole millions from the wealth of Egypt.

http://qwaider.com/archive/tags/Mohamed ... fault.aspx

Here is a blog that tells you a little bit about Egypt's royal family whom all of us patriotic Egyptians support whole heartdly and feel sad for the departure of Egypt's true King Farouq the first Allah Yerhamo.

- Nasser built the Steal Industry (Dekheila) and arms manufacturing (المصانع الحربية which also produced appliances) among many others that have been driven to the ground by his predecessors and later mostly privatized. Industrialization in Egypt: Historical Development and Implications for Economic Policy -

These factories and arms manufacturing were planned by the Wafd party, which was banned after nasser took power and turned Egypt from a Multiparty system to a single communist socialist party system. The plans started from 1949, it wasn't his idea it was Al Nahass (Egyptian) Pasha's idea who was Egypt's prime minister. During Nasser Egypt wasn't able to afford to research and develop anything, there was no significant increase in anything. Until Saddat's 1970s and Abu Ghazala during Mubarak that Egypt started improving and diversifying its defence industry.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... dustry.htm



the Kalaa prison (سجن القلعة) was brutal place that was ran by Sadat and shut down by Mubarak (it was his contribution to "change") and the names you mentioned like Kishk (take a good look at his bio قصة حياة الشيخ عبدالحميد كشك ) was briefly imprisoned by Nasser but it was Sadat that finally killed him (died prying in his home but it was the Sadat's torture that did it), and Nasser was killed by his Egyptian Jewish doctor Dr. Aly El-Atfy (physhical therapist) who was arrested shortly after Nasser's Death and later released from jail following a visit from Began to Egypt. he bragged about this act in jail to Ahmed Foad Nigem and others
He also added that "they" don't leave there men behind like the Russians. Watch video in Arabic
Khalid Abdel Nasser does not seem to be a spoiled individual
as for Assad and his Triumph and betrayal also check out the book "Asad: The Struggle for the Middle East"

Yemen was a civil war, on one hand there was the Imamyte and on the other the socialists. The US never invaded Yemen back then please get your facts right. During the period of the Yemen war Saudi Arabia did not want a republic springing up on its border for fear of what they saw the socialists did to Iraq and Syria, so they backed the Imam (King of Yemen), while Nasser funded a socialist revolution...doesn't that remind you of someone else's modus operandi? (Yes Jews and International Socialism). We call it our Veitnam especially that our soldiers who were sent there came back in body bags killed by Yemenis that we were supporting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Yemen_Civil_War

- The Kalaa prison was run and operated by Nasser and before him the Monarchy but it was not a political prison, it only became political during Nasser and his one party system. -

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/egypt.political.htm

Old political parties were abolished in 1953, and from 1962 to 1976 the Arab Socialist Union (ASU) was the only legal political party.

Notice Arab SOCIALIST UNION (Sounds Jew funded and owned to me)

As for Saddat, his sons and daughters are all normal Egyptians, Talaat is a member of Parliment and a lawyer, his daughter Rawya is a journalist. They are not billionairs at all as opposed to Nasser and his family. Saddat abolished the Socialist system that was imposed by Nasser because it was an unfair Jewish system that sucked the wealth of Egypt and made its institutions corrupt to the core.

Regarding Nasser's oppression let someone who reads Arabic translate this for you

http://www.alarab.co.uk/Previouspages/A ... 03/w24.pdf

As for Al Sheikh Kishk, he died after Saddat in 1982. He was imprisoned once and very briefly during Saddat. But was imprisoned and brutely tortured during Nasser from 1966 until 1968.

http://www.amlalommah.net/aml-319.html

Some of Nasser's history

http://basmetwegdan.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... st_20.html

The last few links are in Arabic written by Egyptians so you can get our view of Nasser, Arabs love him because he made himself in to their saviour and he didn't save anything his legacy was the loss of Sinai, Golan heights, Al Quds, Al Dahfa.
But his Goebbles technic earned him a reputation for turning military defeat in to a political victory. Egyptians will never forget when the radio in 1967 lied to the people telling them how we are winning against the israeli army and shooting down their planes while the reality was the complete opposite. He oppressed his own people, he fought wars that cost us a lot, what is the difference between him and the Arabs and Bush with israel?

When Bush throws the US army and convinces the Americans that war is good for them cause it serves israel, Nasser did the same to us!...He oppressed us and ruined our economy, lost the wars he kept dragging us into. Saddat got our land back, returned the multiparty system and gave us a victory. compare their legacy and you will see.

Nasser is demonized by the west because he was pro Soviet (Jewish) and not pro America has nothing to do with israel. He could put on a good show but the reality was a completely different story, Miles Copeland said that Nasser was the CIA man, what more testimony do you need? Not to mention his son in law was a mossad agent, seems like it runs in the family. As for Hafiz al Assad, he lost Al Golan because he still kept the soviets who were spies and didn't get rid of them. He was facing a lot less troops than we did and he couldn't win, he refused to negotiate. Saddat promised us our land back and he got it back, he was the president of Egypt not Arabs, not Pan Arabism.

To understand what my point of view is. I am for an Islamic constitutional Republic, I do not support the racist/Jewish Pan Arabism of Nasser. We as "Arabs" have a lot of ethnicities that are oppressed because of Pan Arabism. We have Kurds, Nubians, Africans, Armenians, Amazigh, Berbers. To force those people to let go of their culture and heritage for something that never existed (Yes the old Khalifate was a Muslim Khalifate not an Arab Khalifate). Nasser despised a notion of Islamic Republic and oppressed anyone who even hinted at it and opted for a purely socialist/secular Republic (Talk about CryptoJews Attaturk style). Saddat was not perfect but he was better than Nasser and Mubarak is the worst so far, but almost all Egyptians agree that the days of King Farouq the first was the Golden age of Egypt in the 20th century.

Here is a TV show that shows you how those bastards (Free Officers movement) stole the Royal Jewels and tried to sell them in Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpnwYR9Lls8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAtyPPr90iY

[ehpg]

First of all Muhammad Ali was not Arab he was Albanian, and yes he was not good for Egypt (Invasion of sovereign Sudan)
Talat Harb was a front man, and if you got to look at the contract for the establishment of Bank Misr and other institutions claimed to be started by him you will see that he was a figure head and the other Jews were in fact primary controlling share holders.
Saad Zaghloul, and Muhammad Abduh were both Masons so were alot of other pashas at the time, and funny how they mobilized the Egyptian masses shortly after the signing of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement of 1919 at the Paris peace conference which did not go over well with the masses Muslims, Arabs, and Christians (speculation: what if he had to do that to divert attention away from the Faisal-Weizmann agreement) the timing is uncanny but even still what did that do for Egypt (and we all know that did not get the occupiers out of Egypt)

Nasser first went to Eisenhower for funding of the Nasser dam (brought electricity to all of Egypt and till this day is the primary source, let me guess Commi Jew Tactic) but he was turned down so he went to the other superpower, that is the only reason the Soviets came in the Pic. Nasser made friends with everyone at first but communists, Muslim Brotherhood, even Jews but got increasingly paranoid as the assassination attempts and infiltrating Mossad operatives were in almost every single organization and party that was around at the time. and Abu Ghazala, really the CIA Agent. Saudi was backed by the US and World Zionist Congress when it invaded Yemen, Nasser's Funeral is still the most attended funeral in recorded history till now. when he tried to resign almost every man, woman, and child took to the streets of Egypt Urging him to stay on as the President.  
And I never mentioned the Suez canal which till this day represents about 1/4 of Egypt's overall Income, how dare he take that and give it to the people right (Jew tactic right).

Nasser was not perfect, he did not have a proper education since he was from a poor family so he was not the greatest tactician, but he was no agent the only thing I think Nasser was guilty of was loving his country. Sadat was a complete sellout and destroyed everything Nasser had worked hard for. and all one needs to do is look at what Sadat gave Egypt, was it peace or Sinai Egypt is still paying the price for that so called peace till now with the obligatory submission to US/Israel's will, Sinai is still a DMZ that is not having your land back if you have to have UN officers there, and limit the troops and weapons you could have there.

[ehpg]

[bliptv:1agov9ib]http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/yt-N0Erp4qEUP8/1973_yom_kippur_war.swf[/bliptv:1agov9ib]

this is not what most people would call a military victory, but yet till this day Egypt celebrates it as such, if Sadat would have fulfilled his agreement with Assad this would not have happened, and now thanks to the Camp David agreement it is now improbable to recreate the same conditions that could result in military victory for the any neighboring Arab states. that is what this traitor to all mankind brought to the table.

[high_treason]

First of all Muhammad Ali was not Arab he was Albanian, and yes he was not good for Egypt (Invasion of sovereign Sudan)

Did I say he was Arab? No, but he is the founder of Modern Egypt otherwise as I said we would have been a backwards country that just started building its infrastructure in the 1960s like Lybia, Yemen, Gulf ministates. They only started to have the luxurious buildings after the oil wealth. As for Sudan, it was part of the Ottoman empire it was not a sovereign nation, Mohamed Ali Pasha managed to unite Egypt, Palestine, Syria and Sudan in to one country and built a strong army that it took all the major European powers plus the Ottomans to defeat his fleet. He started the modernization of the educational process of Egypt.

Talat Harb was a front man, and if you got to look at the contract for the establishment of Bank Misr and other institutions claimed to be started by him you will see that he was a figure head and the other Jews were in fact primary controlling share holders.

Do you have evidence of that or are you just speculating that he is a front man?
Show me the contract of establishment of Bank Misr if your claim is true.

Saad Zaghloul, and Muhammad Abduh were both Masons so were alot of other pashas at the time, and funny how they mobilized the Egyptian masses shortly after the signing of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement of 1919 at the Paris peace conference which did not go over well with the masses Muslims, Arabs, and Christians (speculation: what if he had to do that to divert attention away from the Faisal-Weizmann agreement) the timing is uncanny but even still what did that do for Egypt (and we all know that did not get the occupiers out of Egypt)

Saudis making deals was not of any concern for Egyptians they were desert dwellers still living in tents and Egypt was a modern nation. Saad Zaghloul was an Egyptian not a Turk that is my point same thing with Talat Harb, whether he is a George Washington who was also a Mason or a Jacobian is something that no one can prove. But he ended up in exile by British who disliked him (British empire = Rothschild empire)

Nasser first went to Eisenhower for funding of the Nasser dam (brought electricity to all of Egypt and till this day is the primary source, let me guess Commi Jew Tactic) but he was turned down so he went to the other superpower, that is the only reason the Soviets came in the Pic. Nasser made friends with everyone at first but communists, Muslim Brotherhood, even Jews but got increasingly paranoid as the assassination attempts and infiltrating Mossad operatives were in almost every single organization and party that was around at the time. and Abu Ghazala, really the CIA Agent. Saudi was backed by the US and World Zionist Congress when it invaded Yemen, Nasser's Funeral is still the most attended funeral in recorded history till now. when he tried to resign almost every man, woman, and child took to the streets of Egypt Urging him to stay on as the President.

And I never mentioned the Suez canal which till this day represents about 1/4 of Egypt's overall Income, how dare he take that and give it to the people right (Jew tactic right).

Nasser first went to Eisenhower for funding of the Nasser dam (brought electricity to all of Egypt and till this day is the primary source, let me guess Commi Jew Tactic) but he was turned down so he went to the other superpower, that is the only reason the Soviets came in the Pic. Nasser made friends with everyone at first but communists, Muslim Brotherhood, even Jews but got increasingly paranoid as the assassination attempts and infiltrating Mossad operatives were in almost every single organization and party that was around at the time. and Abu Ghazala, really the CIA Agent. Saudi was backed by the US and World Zionist Congress when it invaded Yemen, Nasser's Funeral is still the most attended funeral in recorded history till now. when he tried to resign almost every man, woman, and child took to the streets of Egypt Urging him to stay on as the President.

Its called the High dam not Nasser dam, second thing he displaced hunderds of thousands of Nubians, third thing it created a disaster for Egyptian agriculture since the rich mud stopped coming in to the delta. He promised free electricity instead we are paying 100s and sometimes 1000s of pounds every month for it.

Okay show me proof of any of these parties having mossad agents? where is your proof? you are still speculating trying to justify his single party Jew communist system. Can't you realize that he was a communist Jew stooge?

He used the Muslim brotherhood (The real power behind the coup) and then fabricated the so called assassination attempt which has been suspetced to be a staged event. He imprisoned the communists because thats the modus operandi of the Jewish communists, watch Yuri Bezmenov the first ones to go are the leftists. He imprisoned and tortured the Muslim brotherhood and the communists and anyone who critisized him or his government.

http://www.nmhtthornton.com/mehistoryda ... ttempt.php

He worked directly with Jews? I did not know that, very interesting I would like to see your source regarding him working with the Jews directly and not on a subordient level. Abu Ghazala CIA agent? again where is your source? Abu Ghazala saved Egypt from a coup in the 1980s during the paramilitary "Amn Markazy" revolt. He modernized Egypt's army no Egyptian would call him an agent because we know and have seen his dedication and achievments to our beloved country.

Saudi backed by the US and World zionist congress to invade Yemen? Can you show me the evidence? I have not seen a single source that mentions Saudi invading Yemen with zionist backing. They didn't even invade Yemen, they funded the monarch's return while Nasser sent the flower of our Youth to die in a civil war that was not ours to begin with. So what if people attended his funeral, most were brainwashed and too scared not to attend because of the police state. Did you know that sewage water got in to his grave? Thats an act of God!

The resignation during a time when Egypt had no leadership and was defeat in a war and its army annihlated its like he is saying now that you are ruined I will leave, what good would it do anyway? When the entire country was devistated? plus you didn't answer me regarding the lies that he had the media spew about great victories in 1967 when the army was getting pounded and order for a full random retreat.

And I never mentioned the Suez canal which till this day represents about 1/4 of Egypt's overall Income, how dare he take that and give it to the people right (Jew tactic right).

Do you know Anglo-Egyptian Treaty of 1936 ? The British agreed to withdraw their troops during the Wafd party's rule in 1951 before the coup and the UK retreated in 1956. Nasser used it as leverage and instead of holding on to it he lost it to the Jews when Israel, France and Britian attacked. The USA got him out of it, Eisenhower to be more exact. Because according to Miles Copeland he was their man!

Nasser was not perfect, he did not have a proper education since he was from a poor family so he was not the greatest tactician,

He did have a proper education and was a graduate of the military academy which should make him a good tactician. So I don't see your point. Poor did not mean uneducated, a lot of poor people recieved education during the King's reign.

but he was no agent the only thing I think Nasser was guilty of was loving his country.

What is the proof? So far his legacy is a series of defeats and costly wars and some meaningless speeches that brainwashed people. I can't see anything tangible.

Sadat was a complete sellout and destroyed everything Nasser had worked hard for.

His legacy says otherwise, he defeated the israelis, got our land back, removed the socialist jewish system which you still refuse to address. He was for Egypt first, Arabs are not our responsibility. We have paid more than enough in money and blood to help them and they still are ungrateful for it. Show me one country that remembers how Egyptians taught them in schools, trained their armies and fought for them. None, Egyptians should look after Egypt and protect it everything else is secondary.

 

and all one needs to do is look at what Sadat gave Egypt, was it peace or Sinai Egypt is still paying the price for that so called peace till now with the obligatory submission to US/Israel's will, Sinai is still a DMZ that is not having your land back if you have to have UN officers there, and limit the troops and weapons you could have there.

Have you been to Sinai or are you again speculating? We have 800 border guards, we have a few thousand military police stationed there, you don't have to see them dressed in military close to know they are military. We don't have any limits on our troops or weapons, we have more than enough troops and weapons. So how is that a problem?

Unless you want to see us fighting again on our own in another costly war where the Arabs keep cheering on the sidelines and backstabbing us while we are getting killed! I say its enough, Egypt should look after itself we have more than enough problems to worry about the rest, we need to get rid of the corruption left by the socialist system and the coup of 1952. We need to improve our education, economy and hopefully return ourselves to what we used to be.

As for al Assad, he sold al Golan heights,...here are a few links to it if you don't believe me, he sold it to them. And he is saying we betrayed him? HAHAHAHA thats a good joke!

http://www.almahatta.net/hemligt12.htm
http://www.free-syria.com/loadarticle.p ... cleid=9451

[ehpg]

Context of '1954-1970: CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood Ally to Oppose Egyptian President Nasser'
http://www.historycommons.org/context.j ... ncy_202700

Nasser Assassination Attempt, October 26, 1954 - Nasser, who had taken Israeli bullets in his shoulder and chest six years earlier, remained calm. In fact, he did better than that. He seized the moment and made it his own, crying out: "Let them kill Nasser. What is Nasser, but one among many? My fellow countrymen, stay where you are. I am not dead, I am alive, and even if I die ... each of you is Gamal Abdel Nasser. Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation!"
(Mohammed Hassanein Heikal,  The Cairo Documents,  Doubleday,  New York, 1973, 25.  See also Peter Mansfield, Nasser,  Methuen Educational Limited,  London, 1969, 88.)

The Western powers are trying to denigrate Nasser, although Nasser is not a Communist. Politically, he is closer to those who are waging war on him. and he has even put Communists in jail."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... z0ckGj5Ek1

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 29,00.html

In suezcrisis.wmv a CBC documentary (in an interview with Sami Sharaf, where he elaborates on the numerous assassination attempts on Nasser as well as infiltration of political, academic, and financial institutions by "International powers" mostly by Jews)
http://www.torrentportal.com/details/66 ... s.wmv.html unfortunately the torrent is dead and it is no longer on youtube

Sami Sharaf: Shadows of the revolution After a mentor's death, where does the student turn?

"The Communists were the first to criticise the Revolution, never accepting it as such. They persistently referred to us as a 'military junta.' Nasser used to say that he was the most leftist of the lot. He stood for radical, constructive change."

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2001/546/profile.htm


Abdel-Halim Abu Ghazala: Egyptian Defence Minister

George Crile's book Charlie Wilson's War depicts Abu Ghazala as "just Wilson's kind of man: a hero of the '73 war, a true hater of Communists and, best of all, a Muslim who drank whisky, loved women and was possessed with an endless supply of ethnic jokes".

Abu Ghazala, who was close to the US, was considered to be the most influential figure in Egypt after Mubarak because of the vast power that the Egyptian military, heavily subsidised by the US, wielded in the country's political and economic life.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 726397.ece

FREEMASONRY IN EGYPT 1798-1921: A STUDY IN CULTURAL AND POLITICAL ENCOUNTERS
http://www.jstor.org/pss/195148

Egyptian Freemasonry used to throw off the yoke of colonialism.
Pasha Saad Zaghlul (1860-1927)
Premier of Egypt in 1924. A lawyer and statesman, he was minister of public instruction in 1906, and later, minister of justice.
After the close of WWI, he became head of the Nationalist Party, which advocated and demanded the breaking of ties binding Egypt to Great Britain. He failed in his attempt to conclude the negotiation with British Prime Minister MacDonald. He was deported to Malta in 1919 and then to Ceylon, returning to Egypt in 1921.
One of the two Egyptian Grand Lodges to which he belonged ordered 7 weeks of mourning after his death.

translated by google -->

Prince Halim Pasha, Viceroy of Egypt, Grand Master of the National Grand Lodge of Egypt from 1867 to 1868. Freemason.
A Grand Orient of Egypt's Rite of Memphis was founded in 1867, led by the Marquis de Beauregard succeeded Prince Halim Pasha, the son of Mehmet Ali, viceroy of Egypt, considered the true founder of Egypt modern. Halim Pasha succeeded his father as head of the country.
On March 21, 1873 the various lodges operating in Egypt in Alexandria were united to form the National Grand Lodge of Egypt and March 5, 1878 its headquarters was transferred to Cairo to end the anarchy prevailing in the Egyptian Masonry. Tawfiq Pasha, Khedive then (Viceroy) was elected Grand Master in 1881, and a large number of Egyptian personalities such as Jamal al ed'din-Afhani, the great Islamic scholar and reformer, joined the Masonic workshops, which are multiplied to the point we were over 500, "working in English, French, Greek, Hebrew and Italian, in addition to Arabic." Al-Afghani and his disciple Mohammed Abdou turned to their comrades in the liberal circles of Egypt as " 'ikhawan Khullani al Saffa wa al-Wafd" (brothers sincere and faithful companions).
Tawfik Pasha resigned from his post in 1890 and Idris Raghib Bey was elected Grand Master. The son of a former Prime Minister of Egypt, Idris Bey was rich, he founded the political party Al-Fatah (Young Egypt) (which is unrelated to Fatah today). The Egyptian Freemasonry flourished during the period when he was Grand Master

http://www.grandorientarabe.org/index.p ... _Galerie-I

L'Express, Paris, (Translation)
25-31 December 1967:

Nasser's Jews (I) of 4

That had been my act of triumph. A certificate of nationality proved that one had not always been Egyptian. I was Egyptian well before the birth of Egypt, when everyone was still Turkish. I had never had anything to prove it. The real Egyptians are as much Egyptians as the Bororos are Araras.

http://www.hsje.org/NASSER%27S%20JEWS%201_2.htm

Nasser was buddies with Henry Korel (Jewish founder of Communism in Egypt) until the Lovon Affair. In G. Edward Griffin - The Truth About Communism is a very broad overview of subversion tactics used by Mr. Koral including the bombing of synagogues  http://fenopy.com/torrent/Edward+Griffi ... vi/MTY5NjM

Its called the High dam not Nasser dam, second thing he displaced hunderds of thousands of Nubians, third thing it created a disaster for Egyptian agriculture since the rich mud stopped coming in to the delta. He promised free electricity instead we are paying 100s and sometimes 1000s of pounds every month for it.

dude you are a real piece of work  Nubians were displaced literally a few kilometers away to make room for lake Nasser of the High Dam, at the time electricity was virtually free and even until now in comparison to any other nation state it is still a fraction of what anyone else in the world pays
Household Electricity Prices Around the World 1994-2002
http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index ... he?blog=49
and The International Energy Agency 's 1999-2007
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/elecprih.html
note Egypt deliberately left out

Abdul Aziz Hijazi, a long-time minister of finance and liberal economist with links to Western and Arab capital, was appointed prime minister in 1974, charged with implementing the infitah. To neutralize resistance inside the state, Sadat encouraged a "de-Nasserization" campaign in which all those who had grievances against socialism publicly attacked it for having ruined the economy. As the emerging ills of infitah--inflation and corruption--generated discontent over the new course, Hijazi was sacked, and Mamduh Salim, Sadat's police "strong man," took over as prime minister with a mission to push ahead with infitah, overruling those who were obstructing it and those who were abusing it.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-4141.html

Like I said be for you are entitled to a refund on those private lessons you got, IMHO

[ehpg]

The Camp David Accords
The Framework for Peace in the Middle East

last point in the Preamble -->

Security is enhanced by a relationship of peace and by cooperation between nations which enjoy normal relations. In addition, under the terms of peace treaties, the parties can, on the basis of reciprocity, agree to special security arrangements such as demilitarized zones, limited armaments areas, early warning stations, the presence of international forces, liaison, agreed measures for monitoring and other arrangements that they agree are useful.

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/docum ... ords.phtml

WHO DOES THAT APPLY TO? BOTH PARTIES? OR JUST EGYPT??

[high_treason]

(Mohammed Hassanein Heikal, The Cairo Documents, Doubleday, New York, 1973, 25. See also Peter Mansfield, Nasser, Methuen Educational Limited, London, 1969, 88.)

Mohamed Hassanein Heikal? The tongue of Nasser as he is called? Thats like asking Karl Rove for his opinion on George Bush's War on Terror. Heikal always was and always will be the tongue of the coup of 1952.

The Western powers are trying to denigrate Nasser, although Nasser is not a Communist. Politically, he is closer to those who are waging war on him. and he has even put Communists in jail."

"The Communists were the first to criticise the Revolution, never accepting it as such. They persistently referred to us as a 'military junta.' Nasser used to say that he was the most leftist of the lot. He stood for radical, constructive change."

He put communists in Jail and yet turned the country in to a communist socialist republic. Which is exactly as Yuri Bezmenov said about Jewish communist takeovers. The first people they jail are the leftist and communists since they become disillusioned with the revolution. which is exactly what you yourself have proven to be the case. So it was a communist Jewish backed revolution and adding to it his strong connection to Henry Korel the founder of communism in Egypt is all the more evidence of who he was working for.

dude you are a real piece of work Nubians were displaced literally a few kilometers away

Have you been there? Or seen the displaced Nubians? I guess not, so if you haven't don't speculate.

http://nadimyat.manalaa.net/node/421

Read it, they were displaced and thrown in to the desert not just a few km, their homes were flooded. Are you seriously not seeing a Stalin there?! You need to check your eyes.

About the electricity, you didn't show me anything, they still are not showing the numbers which doesn't prove that its cheap and since you haven't lived in Egypt or paid a single electricity bill there don't speculate and then show me a bunch of other countries to try to prove something that is just not true.

George Crile's book Charlie Wilson's War depicts Abu Ghazala as "just Wilson's kind of man: a hero of the '73 war, a true hater of Communists and, best of all, a Muslim who drank whisky, loved women and was possessed with an endless supply of ethnic jokes".

Abu Ghazala, who was close to the US, was considered to be the most influential figure in Egypt after Mubarak because of the vast power that the Egyptian military, heavily subsidised by the US, wielded in the country's political and economic life.

Does not discredit him in any way, it doesn't say he is an agent or a sell out. Having vices doesn't make him bad either, it doesn't say he is a pedophile or a homosexual. Plus he hated communists i.e. Jew backed traitors who ruined the country.

You also had Mohamed Zia al Haq who was also close to Charlie Wilson during the Afghan war since all Muslim countries shared a common hate for communism. Zia al Haq was assassinated, Zia Al Haq brought the Atom bomb to Pakistan, got rid of the socialist and communist influences in the country and help fight the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Zia-ul-Haq

Egyptian Freemasonry used to throw off the yoke of colonialism.
Pasha Saad Zaghlul (1860-1927)
Premier of Egypt in 1924. A lawyer and statesman, he was minister of public instruction in 1906, and later, minister of justice.
After the close of WWI, he became head of the Nationalist Party, which advocated and demanded the breaking of ties binding Egypt to Great Britain. He failed in his attempt to conclude the negotiation with British Prime Minister MacDonald. He was deported to Malta in 1919 and then to Ceylon, returning to Egypt in 1921.
One of the two Egyptian Grand Lodges to which he belonged ordered 7 weeks of mourning after his death.

How does that discredit Saad Zaghloul? Or George Washington? Both were Masons both fought Colonial Britian. You are still proving my point to be right.

Abdul Aziz Hijazi, a long-time minister of finance and liberal economist with links to Western and Arab capital, was appointed prime minister in 1974, charged with implementing the infitah. To neutralize resistance inside the state, Sadat encouraged a "de-Nasserization" campaign in which all those who had grievances against socialism publicly attacked it for having ruined the economy. As the emerging ills of infitah--inflation and corruption--generated discontent over the new course, Hijazi was sacked, and Mamduh Salim, Sadat's police "strong man," took over as prime minister with a mission to push ahead with infitah, overruling those who were obstructing it and those who were abusing it.

So whats so bad about denasserization? It was a socialist policy. infitah returned the country to Capitalism, the corruption was already there from before. As I showed you your beloved "free" officers were selling Egypt's Jewels to Europe. Probably were planning to splitting it with Nasser and Arafat so he can build another palace in France while his people starved.

You have failed to counter anything from what I said. All you did was prove me right and I thank you for that.

Now answer these specific questions which you seem to be dodging all the time.

1. Nasser's communism/socialism/Jewishism....the country was called a Socialist republic and everything was run by the government what do you call that? Capitalism? communism?

2. Syria's Asad selling al Golan Hieghts to Israel...its a natural barrier impossible to cross yet his entire army retreated and left it to the Israelis for a handful of dollars how do you explain that?

3. Are you Egyptian? I guess not so don't try and force us Egyptians to fight for you when the Palestinians keep fighting amongst themselves and having traitors and informents in their midst like Abu abbas (Abu Nidal's man) and Arafat taking the money for his country and building palaces and the ones abroad are mostly millionars living in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and not contributing much to their cause and not even fighting for it. We have paid more than our fair share for the Arabs and yet you have been ungrateful some of what the Palestinians did to us...

a. Beating up the Egyptian foreign minister in Palestine, even if he was bad it just shows how much they hate us even after all what we have done for them.
b. Shooting our border guard which just happened a few days ago. Why would they shoot a Muslim soldier who is only doing his job?
c. Bombing Sharm Al Sheikh, why would they do that? Seriously...why do they attack other Muslims when they have more than their share of informers and traitors that they need to get rid of?

Do you justify that? These were all 100% proven and admitted to be made by Palestinians, I support HAMAS fighting israel but not killing the people who help them. As for Fatah their leadership speaks for itself, Arafat having palaces in Europe where his wife Suha now lives, Abbas taking charge who was an Abu Nidal man, its all coming out in the open of how corrupt this whole Nasser ilk is. Lets not forget Saddam, Asad, Ali Abdallah Saleh, Moamar Al Kaddafi, Bu Tafliqa. All were backed by Nasser. All are the most dispicable governments in the Middle East.

4. Also How do you explain Black September and Nasser's full support for a Palestinian state carved out of Jordan? Wasn't it bad enough to see a country taken away did he want to create another Palestine?

5. Yemen war you still haven't shown me anything saying an invasion by Saudi Arabia or the US...it was backed by Saudi Arabian money to fight against Socialism and Nasser sending an ARMY (Invasion) on Yemen! and losing the most vital war 1967 for a civil war we had no stake in.

6. Where is the Parasitic Pasha? When all I've seen are great examples of them from Saad Zaghloul to Mustafa Musharafa? Where is Talaat Harb's shareholders of Bank Misr that you said is Jewish?

7. What do Arabs expect from Egypt after Egypt fought for them on many wars and all we got from Palestinians you can see a few examples up there, from Saudis our doctors get whipped and workers treated like slaves, in Lybia shooting our fishing boats, in Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war Saddam sending our workers in bodybags. Do you think after all of this do these people deserve that we fight for them? I guess not

You have proven nothing, you are just a brainwashed socialist who still believes in the racist Pan Arabism which has proven to be a failure since its inception, there was never an Arab unity, only a MUSLIM KHALIFATE.

[ehpg]

Yuri Bezmenov also said that his job was to confuse and distort public opinion to the extent that when the truth is in front of their eyes they will still not be able to critically reach a sensible conclusion about it.

Why don't you put me in my place and scan and post your last power bill which has the price of the kilowatt for everyone to see? (btw the prices have been steadily rising since Nasser's assassination)

1. I elaborated enough on this subject, He was not a communist, and he did approach the US first but was turned down.  (he stopped Masons, Communists, Zionist Jews, and CIA funded radical so called Muslim elements in Egypt)

2. I am not defending Assad, just simply stating the fact that he had an agreement with Sadat and was betrayed. and what you claim about Assad and the Golan is simply not true. I urge everyone to read the book "Asad: The Struggle for the Middle East"

3. My nationality has nothing to do with the facts presented, and you have shown your true colors blaming Palestinians for being compromised by Israeli deceit. SHAME ON YOU.

4. Nasser's referenced "Jordanian land" was The West Bank and East Jerusalem which were occupied by Jordan (formerly Transjordan) for a period of nearly two decades (1948–1967) (I would like to add that only Jordan and Israel have Free Trade Agreements with the US)

5. Saudi Arabia shared an extended border with Yemen, much of it still undefined. A further factor in the situation was that Yemen had long claimed that the Aden Protectorate was legally part of its territory. The British-controlled Government of the South Arabian Federation, which included the Aden Protectorate, therefore also closely followed developments in Yemen.
On the 19th of September 1962, Imam Ahmed bin Yahya died and was succeeded by his son, Imam Mohammed Al-Badr. A week later, the people and the army overthrew the new Imam and proclaimed the Yemen Arab Republic.

Zionist backed King Faisal of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement (quick overview: the fulfillment of the Balfour Declaration in exchange for development of natural and economic resources) and King Saud who was back by the US (House of Bush, House of Saud: The Secret Relationship Between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties) you are right about the absence of Saudi troops in Yemen just economic military aid was provided to protect the despotic oppressive royalty (where did that aid come from?).  Nasser was trying to reverse the aftermath of the Sykes-Picot agreement of 1916 (quick overview: dividing the Middle East between the British and French spheres of influence after the expected downfall of the Ottoman Empire) which included most of the Arab world.


6. If Talaat Harb Pasha's accomplishments were as claimed why is that the contracts for all his projects not in a museum for all to see? (I believe a copy could be found in the American University of Cairo rare books library which is only available to AUC graduate students) and btw Washington denounced freemasonry for the last 40 years of his life, unlike these Pashas who practicing masons till the day they died and have till this day Masonic/Pharaohnic monuments in Egypt.

Saad's Monument that looks more like the 3rd temple they are trying to build


7. In the paper titled "A Clean Break" Israel yarns for exactly what you advocate, Arab, African, Persian, Muslim, and Christian disunity and the breakup of neighboring large States that pose a threat to Israel's world domination plans like Iraq and Iran.

[AbdulHaq]

Salam high_treason and ehpg,

  As far as other Arabs forgetting what Egypt has done, you're absolutely right. However, I'd like to add that the generations of my grandfather and father still remember and are still very grateful. The new generation is shit. I'm originally from Libya and lived in Egypt for a while. If you live there, I don't have to tell you what the younger generation of Libyans is like. Pretty embarrassing really. My father and his mates are still grateful for what the Egyptians have done for them.

As far as Egyptian presidents go, I'd like to offer a different opinion. I'm not a fan of either Nasser or Sadat. As far as I'm concerned, the true hero from the bunch is the man in the center of this picture:



Muhammad Naguib, محمد نجيب يوسف قطب القشلان, first president of Egypt, may God rest his soul. Unfortunately Nasser put him in house arrest where he spent most of his life.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I remember this link from DBS a few years back. It's got the crypto Bjerknes:

Christopher Jon Bjerknes suspects that the Zionists are now fooling Turkey into supporting the bombing of Lebanon by offering them support in their fight with Kurds.

    The Zionists have been deceiving people into supporting 9/11, the world wars, the attack on the USS Liberty, and other crimes, by promising them money, land, political office, and/or sex.

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Christop ... .07.28.htm

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Christop ... erknes.mp3