Jim Traficant on the Alex Jones show

[Whaler]

Traficant-On Alex Jones TV Part I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdkJk5WwA3U



MP3 FILE:

http://rss.nfowars.net/20100219_Fri_Alex.mp3

[satya]

Yeah I heard it today live.  AJ was in rare form because normally he likes to switch topics or cut to commercial when talk of Israel and Jews come up, but he was actually pressing the issue.  AJ asked Traficant to expound on Israel the Lobby a few times.

[MikeWB]

Yeah I heard it today live.  AJ was in rare form because normally he likes to switch topics or cut to commercial when talk of Israel and Jews come up, but he was actually pressing the issue.  AJ asked Traficant to expound on Israel the Lobby a few times.

Something happened to AJ... he's been talking about Israel quite a few times in the last few weeks (I've seen comments on his show on trackers... don't really listen to him anymore).

[Whaler]

Yeah, I was surprised. AJ might be trying get some 'street cred'
or....
maybe he's sick of the Zionist denial. He seems a bit unhinged lately.

[satya]

Maybe he sees that he is going to be a fall guy for a lot of this and he's striking back...wishful thinking probably.

[Whaler]

That is possible. He could be realizing that all of his shilling and soft peddling was usless because the ADL and the Jewish lobby are still coming after him.
So he might be saying, "F*ck it. If they are going to take me down, then I'm not covering up for them any longer."
 He realizes also that his refusal to talk about the subject of Jewish control is costing him a lot of creditability within the Patriot movement.

In the Trafficant interview he says,(paraphrasing) "I can't imagine the level of threats and intimidation you must have gotten over the years. I mean, I mildly criticize Israel....just so I can reach a bigger audience and bring everyone together....and they(Jewish Lobby) have started to really come after me."

I think maybe Jones thought the Jews would go easy on him because he doesn't blame them for the NWO.
or....
It's all just a ruse and Alex is an operative.

[satya]

That is possible. He could be realizing that all of his shilling and soft peddling was usless because the ADL and the Jewish lobby are still coming after him.
So he might be saying, "F*ck it. If they are going to take me down, then I'm not covering up for them any longer."
 He realizes also that his refusal to talk about the subject of Jewish control is costing him a lot of creditability within the Patriot movement.

In the Trafficant interview he says,(paraphrasing) "I can't imagine the level of threats and intimidation you must have gotten over the years. I mean, I mildly criticize Israel....just so I can reach a bigger audience and bring everyone together....and they(Jewish Lobby) have started to really come after me."

I think maybe Jones thought the Jews would go easy on him because he doesn't blame them for the NWO.
or....
It's all just a ruse and Alex is an operative.

Exactly what I have been thinking, all those are possible scenarios.  AJ maybe a lot of thing, be he is definitely not stupid.

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James Anthony Traficant, Jr.

Some possibilities

a) Maybe is just a result of the golden rule that the puppets/gatekeepers of the Empire must always be set to control both parts of the equation,  control opposition, leading even the slaves revolt movement, and this is in the same kind of other past reveling interviews, for example when Jones did the Michael Anthony Hoffman II interview, BUT after that he did continue in the same manners as usual, not focusing in the ZION question (AIPAC/ the hebrew very connections to the banksters/"Maffia"/government/The ongoing war), that was some kind of very useful alibi,  and Jones now -when off the air of course -when some critiques raises this issue- he now can say, "Don't you know i did have Michael Hoffman as a guest ?" "Don't you know i did have Jim Traficant as a guest ?"

b) Why did Fox recently give Jim Traficant air time ? Wich of the big Media Corps gave Eustace Mullins any air time at all in the past ? Remember, Jim Traficant and even Michael Hoffman are predictable in some way because of their roles, the one as politician the other as scholar .

c) Another possibility is, in the case Jones continues in the near future to raise the Zion question continually, that they can use the defamation card later making Jones do/say something stupid and with that putting a bad name in the movement. But i think he is gonna go the Post Hoffman interview way, ignoring the issue completely.

d) This possibility is very remote but I must put it in the list, that Jones means it when saying "I mildly criticize Israel....just so I can reach a bigger audience and bring everyone together". Remote because their Bronfmans connections, etc etc.

e ) The unknown, thinks that escapes me right here as points of argument.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl= ... =N&tab=wv#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Traficant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Hoffman_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronfman_family
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[satya]

The "everything is controlled and everything is staged" people IMHO spend too much time on conspiracy sites and may have some paranoia issues, but that is kind of a side note.  If it is true, that Traficant is controlled, which could easily be a possibility, it really does not matter.  He said things that damage Israel and the Lobby on air for possibly millions to hear.  Mission accomplished for us.  What good does it to spend time and energy wondering if he is controlled opposition, he already let the cat out of the bag.  I think people in our anti-Zionist movement spend way too much time on this issue.  Let the 'controlled opposition' folks speak all day about how bad Israel and the Lobby are, that is only points for us.

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James Anthony Traficant, Jr.

Some possibilities

a) Maybe is just a result of the golden rule that the puppets/gatekeepers of the Empire must always be set to control both parts of the equation,  control opposition, leading even the slaves revolt movement, and this is in the same kind of other past reveling interviews, for example when Jones did the Michael Anthony Hoffman II interview, BUT after that he did continue in the same manners as usual, not focusing in the ZION question (AIPAC/ the hebrew very connections to the banksters/"Maffia"/government/The ongoing war), that was some kind of very useful alibi,  and Jones now -when off the air of course -when some critiques raises this issue- he now can say, "Don't you know i did have Michael Hoffman as a guest ?" "Don't you know i did have Jim Traficant as a guest ?"

b) Why did Fox recently give Jim Traficant air time ? Wich of the big Media Corps gave Eustace Mullins any air time at all in the past ? Remember, Jim Traficant and even Michael Hoffman are predictable in some way because of their roles, the one as politician the other as scholar .

c) Another possibility is, in the case Jones continues in the near future to raise the Zion question continually, that they can use the defamation card later making Jones do/say something stupid and with that putting a bad name in the movement. But i think he is gonna go the Post Hoffman interview way, ignoring the issue completely.

d) This possibility is very remote but I must put it in the list, that Jones means it when saying "I mildly criticize Israel....just so I can reach a bigger audience and bring everyone together". Remote because their Bronfmans connections, etc etc.

e ) The unknown, thinks that escapes me right here as points of argument.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl= ... =N&tab=wv#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Traficant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Hoffman_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronfman_family
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The "everything is controlled and everything is staged" people IMHO spend too much time on conspiracy sites and may have some paranoia issues, but that is kind of a side note. If it is true, that Traficant is controlled, which could easily be a possibility, it really does not matter. He said things that damage Israel and the Lobby on air for possibly millions to hear. Mission accomplished for us. What good does it to spend time and energy wondering if he is controlled opposition, he already let the cat out of the bag. I think people in our anti-Zionist movement spend way too much time on this issue. Let the 'controlled opposition' folks speak all day about how bad Israel and the Lobby are, that is only points for us.

You are right in respect of the short-timed version of it. This is not carved in stone, I am just freestyling here. The Empire already moved most of its power to east. The West must now decline. The plan can go like this :  SOMEONE must be the patsy. So, that part is gonna be played by the hebrew useful idiots in America. Maybe the breakdown is gonna go parallel to the uncoming upgoing war and other surprises. America is gonna collapse sooner than later by design. Under the time the Bloodlines of the Empire, Oppenheimer/Rothschild/Sassoon & Co. are gonna be long far creating the New World Order version of the Talmud in Asia. Israel's rol is unclear for me right now, but it wasn't for nothing than House of Rothschild put them on place there, wich rol they gonna play ? You tell me. Jim Traficant and all the others opinion are only relevant in a scene there America has power in the world, but this power can decline and then people is gonna forget because the control of the Global Perception is in hands of the usual suspects and we know the power of the media is - in today's world - KING. I am sure ? Not. But what is your take on it ?
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[Ognir]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

[Whaler]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

I could never take Rivero seriously after he came out and endorsed Obama.

Does Rivero do any research into the NWO? Has he been paying attention? That was a pretty baffling move on Rivero's part.

I will listen to AJ's show today(in 5 minutes) to see if he will return to business as usual. There is a good chance he got bitched at by all of his Jewish sponsors and listeners. So maybe he will backpedal and go back to his "bringing everyone together" mantra.

[Whaler]

About one hour and 24 minutes into the show, Alex cut a guy off for bringing up how people use the label anti semitism to attack patriots.

In fairness to Alex, this is his Sunday National show and he is under a lot more censorship than his usual weekday show.

Also, he agreed with the caller but it was obvious that Alex didn't want to touch the subject because he cut him off in mid sentence and said, "Absolutely, thanks for the call, yeah they want to bring race into everything"

[MikeWB]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

Bullhorn gave him a show on GCN and is on his show once a month and is talking about Zionists and israel on it. That's why he's "pushing" him.

[satya]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

My hunch is that Mr. Rivero only links to AJ for the exposure AJ gives him.

[Whaler]

Jones is ripping  Medina a new A-hole right now.

Yesterday Craig Paul Roberts was on. He talked about how the neo-cons during the Reagan administration were constantly trying to get Reagan to nuke Russia. Then they discussed how the Neocons and the communist Bolsheviks are actually the same group of revolutionaries. They never mentioned that this criminal cabal is Jewish but... anyone with a pulse could have figured it out.
We all know 'Blowhorn' has a huge ego. He loathes most of the people in the the anti zio movment. He is never going to warm up to us but...
He has recently been talking about Jewish power and the Israeli lobby. He may be trying to slowly and gradually bring his audience to the realization of who the real string pullers are. It would make sense because if Alex just came out and said he believes in a "Jewish Conspiracy" half of his sponsors would dump him. At least 25% of his listeners would be outraged and stop listening to him. I don't endorse Jones's shilling but I understand his business plan. He also wants to make it appear like he knew it all along so he can still keep the "tip of the spear" status.

I'm just freestyling, Jonesawicz could very well be an operative cleverly pulling of some kind of op but I see some progress from Jonesfeld.

Baby steps...

Paul Criag Roberts on Alex Jones Tv 1/4: The New Economy is a Hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6YoyqBsVPU

[Whaler]

alex is ready to tell the truth!!




February 23, 2010, Hour 2, 28 minutes in

"I can't hold back anymore!!

I knew what Trafficant was going to say before he came on!
I've had it!
I can't hold back what's going on in this country anymore!!

Life's too short!


I woke up last night at 1:30 and I told myself,
Alex you gotta go all the way on all of the issues"


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whaler]

February 23, 2010, Hour 2, 28 minutes in


http://www.archive.org/details/AlexJone ... uary232010

[MikeWB]

What??? AJ is starting to tell the truth?

Downloading now... hope this is not a hoax .

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Maybe A.J. owes some back taxes and has shoddy accounting for his "Income" last year, or he took out a lot of high interest loans from his Loan Sharking InfoWars Jew hosts like Berman.  Therefore, since he has no way to nobly bow out of his Zio-Coverup freakshow, he is set to take the fall for all of it. Like the IRS plane crash.  Maybe he's finally "starting-to-see the light....?".  I mean a person can Bullhorn all about the NWO and Illuminati but when one's real world of daily economic life takes a dump, it can be a road to Damascus moment... it starts with opening the envelope...reading... then a quite whisper holding the letter of foreclosure in one's hands... then it happens... (wait for it)...."Oh my God, I was wrong.... it is the Jews after all!!!".  :lol:

[MikeWB]

I listened to parts of it.. can't find what Whaler's talking about. Could someone please cut it out?

CSR, talking about Zionism, Jews, Israel is not good for business.

[Whaler]

I listened to parts of it.. can't find what Whaler's talking about. Could someone please cut it out?

CSR, talking about Zionism, Jews, Israel is not good for business.

Alex Jones Rant(2)Debra Medina Flip Flopping And Selling Out To Supporters(2/3)

[youtube:3u8hrsgz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrHAd85LEUM[/youtube]3u8hrsgz]

[MikeWB]

THANKS WHALER!

Looks like AJ will change.. proof will be in pudding as they say. Let's see if he starts pointing the finger in the right direction.

[Whaler]

Alex is taking heat for his Medina rant.

Jack Blood posted this in his forum:


http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB3/vi ... &sk=t&sd=a

Flip Flop?

So why has Alex Jones never attacked Ron Paul and demanded an apology from him?

I have a feeling that AJ couldn't stand the thought of being #2 in Texas. That he felt it was him or Debra,
and it damn sure wasn't gonna be him!

Otherwise why throw yourself on this sword??

The Ron Paul people are pretty upset with him also.
Alex Jones is going crazy on Medina:(
http://dailypaul.com/node/126715
Submitted by Greg Butko on Tue, 02/23/2010 - 22:34.

It appears that both Beck and Jones work for the other side. This is why we need to stick with those we know that we can trust.

I believe everything Ron Paul says. You don't hear Ron Paul talking about explosives in the building. Dr. Paul talks about ending the undeclared wars, ending the Fed and restoring our freedoms. Why can't we all agree to do the same?

Let's stop following false leadership.

[Mystic_Man]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

I could never take Rivero seriously after he came out and endorsed Obama.

Does Rivero do any research into the NWO? Has he been paying attention? That was a pretty baffling move on Rivero's part.

I will listen to AJ's show today(in 5 minutes) to see if he will return to business as usual. There is a good chance he got bitched at by all of his Jewish sponsors and listeners. So maybe he will backpedal and go back to his "bringing everyone together" mantra.

He 'endorsed' Obama after Ron Paul dropped out and all this stuff started coming out in the media about how Obama was bad for Israel. So Rivero figured he was the best of the options left.

[MikeWB]

More worrying is that Rivero is still pushing Bullhorn :roll:

I could never take Rivero seriously after he came out and endorsed Obama.

Does Rivero do any research into the NWO? Has he been paying attention? That was a pretty baffling move on Rivero's part.

I will listen to AJ's show today(in 5 minutes) to see if he will return to business as usual. There is a good chance he got bitched at by all of his Jewish sponsors and listeners. So maybe he will backpedal and go back to his "bringing everyone together" mantra.

He 'endorsed' Obama after Ron Paul dropped out and all this stuff started coming out in the media about how Obama was bad for Israel. So Rivero figured he was the best of the options left.

He endorsed Obama because the alternative, McCain, was about a magnitude worse than Obama. McCain's brother is a convert to Judaism and McCain is a heavy, heavy Zionist whose best friend in Senate is Joe Lieberman and who was even suppose to be his running mate.  Just look at these pics:

http://images.google.com/images?q=mccain+lieberman

McCain also said he was going to attack Iran within the first year of entering office. He picked Palin as her running mate... the woman that's totally crazy and believes the end of the world is coming and that Israel must be protected.

FWIW, I too got a lot of shit from trolls who were here over voting for Obama. Rivero voting for Obama was not an endorsement of him or his policies as much as it was a rebuke of McCain. I get that.

[Whaler]

He endorsed Obama because the alternative, McCain, was about a magnitude worse than Obama. McCain's brother is a convert to Judaism and McCain is a heavy, heavy Zionist whose best friend in Senate is Joe Lieberman and who was even suppose to be his running mate. Just look at these pics:

http://images.google.com/images?q=mccain+lieberman

[Free Truth]

Looks like AJ will change.. proof will be in pudding as they say. Let's see if he starts pointing the finger in the right direction.

No way.
Nothing he could ever do could change anything.
Alex Jones is the enemy.

I don't like hearing people have hopes that he'll "come around."
Outrageous...

[Free Truth]

And Texe Mars is suspect for simply remaining neutral or, actually, bffly.
(Throwing that out there, out of left field...)