Charles Giuliani: A Nihilist Saboteur of the Truth Movement?

[Rockclimber]

THEZOG/YOMAMA wanted me to share this with y'all:

Christianity Exposed
http://christianitydebunked.wordpress.com/

[pas]

Gordzilla wrote:

Wow, ok 'nothing of substance'??...right. :roll:

Nothing that I am able to detect

First off the Christians here are not Judaeochristians lets start with that understanding, and you were addressing the Christians here.

I was generalizing and so are you when you talk about atheists because how are the jews promoting the kind of anti-judeic, anti-Marxist, anti-internationalist etc. Atheism that I practice.Your so pious that you don't even notice this.

We Christians here are NOT helping our shared enemy one bit

Have you read the timeline Destroyer911 posted?(Great post btw. Do you have a source for that time line Destroyer911?Thanks)
Many of ''my'' people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity in ancient Holland and ''my'' people on the Moluccan Islands (SE indonesia) were also given the ''choice'' of conversion or death.

Gord, we can go on and on till our deaths and the jew wins.You're a good person and I'm forever gratefull for the things i've learned from you and other decent Christians but I unfortunately think our world views differ too much to form an effective alliance.But I'll ofcourse will remain open to a possible solution for my dilemma.
 

Rockclimber wrote:

THEZOG/YOMAMA wanted me to share this with y'all:

Christianity Exposed
http://christianitydebunked.wordpress.com/

Thanks for the link but I'm afraid that very few Christians will check that out, since they ''know'' they're right.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

I was generalizing and so are you when you talk about atheists because how are the jews promoting the kind of anti-judeic, anti-Marxist, anti-internationalist etc. Atheism that I practice.Your so pious that you don't even notice this.

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No. If you were truly generalizing about Christianity, you would recognize Christianity as an anti-Judaic force, being that the majority of Christians are anti-Zionist. In contrast, one could argue that the majority of atheism is in harmony with Judaism. The majority of atheists I know promote all the things Jews do, whether its "skeptical" thinking, feminism, abortion, homosexuality, vaccines, multi-culturalism, secular humanism, etc. (Even Christian Zionists are only Zionists politically; socially they are conservative, which is not in harmony with Jewish evolutionary strategies.) And as I demonstrated in my two articles on Jewliani, atheism (nihilism, agnosticism, etc) was at the centre of Bolshevik terror in Russia. At least Christians don't have that association. And since when have atheists been known for being paleo-conservatives? I must "generalize" and say that the majority of atheists I have ever met have been staunch liberals. Liberalism, again, is a Jewish invention. And for you to post the ramblings of ZCF, who demonstrates pathological behaviour with his constant flipping (Atheism is Jewish..er, wait, not it isn't) isn't helping your case. And Gordzilla's point is correct. This thread is not about validating or preaching Christianity to you all; it's about defending it against the fallacious charge that it aids Jewish evolutionary strategies. It certainly does not. And other than Jewliani using a few out-of-context passages from the Bible, he, nor any of you, have been able to demonstrate from a historical standpoint how Christianity has helped Jewish evolutionary strategies. Step up and show it! Because right now, this false charge is nothing but a dead end, a diversion. Then the question becomes, from what are you distracting attention? If Jewliani were correct that the Bible teaches its disciples Zionism, shouldn't we find historical examples of the MAJORITY of Bible believers engaging in Zionism? Of course. But do we? Absolutely not. From Moses, to the prophets to Jesus, we find the exact opposite.

Is Kevin MacDonald—a great researcher, professor, and an atheist—lying or being deceived when he says Christianity is legitimate opposition to Jewry? Why are pas, Rockclimber, and others discounting his work?

"Jews suffer to a lesser extent than gentiles from the erosion of cultural supports for high-investment parenting, and Jews benefit by the decline in religious beliefs among gentiles. As Podhoretz (1995, 30) notes, it is in fact the case that Jewish intellectuals, Jewish organizations like the American Jewish Congress, and Jewish-dominated organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union have ridiculed Christian religious beliefs, attempted to undermine the public strength of Christianity, and have led the fight for unrestricted pornography. The evidence of this chapter indicates that psychoanalysis as a Jewish-dominated intellectual movement is a central component of this war on gentile cultural supports for high-investment parenting." —Kevin MacDonald, Culture of Critique

[GordZilla]

Ok first off I think maybe some here missed the point of my last point, and perhaps this thread entirely. The point here is not the validity of Christianity, I had even made mention of how one often argues that the bible says this or that therefore it can't be true or it's Jewish in origin etc. The point of this debate is whether or not attacking and causing divide amongst 'Jew wise' Christians is worth it especially given our already incredibly small numbers.


I have illustrated, quite plainly, how Christians of yesteryear have been at the fore front in defence of Jewish aggression, how some of the best people to have ever confronted the Jews have indeed been Christian, and how secularism itself cannot boast of this same track record. This is not to say one approach simply will not work but it is to say that Christianity, at least, has defeated the Jew -numerous times.  I gave examples of how this faith has created many 'Jew wise' people in the past -in fact more than we have alive today and by a long shot. I have illustrated how secularism has indeed helped the Jew, and why he prefers it. All of this is made in defence of the 'Jew wise' Christians here when being told they are useless in our COLLECTIVE cause. Nothing is further from the truth and quoting the bible all day long will not change the reality of Christian history, mankind's history, in the fight against the Jew. These are indisputable points (even for Giuliani), which is probably the reason the conversation is always moved quickly to how the faith is a 'Jew created' one, or false etc etc. As if there were a shortage of Christian bashing web sites out there... pfft!


The point is once again, by attacking Jew wise Christians within our own ranks you are removing some of the best at actually fighting the Jew as PROVEN historically, so whats the point in that? Because you don't believe? Fine if you don't believe, but that still does not give reason to cause this divide. THAT IS THE POINT.


Christians, historically, have been the biggest thorn in the Jew's side BAR NONE! I shutter at how far along they'd be by now if not faced with any resistance from Christians and Muslims along the way. The game would long since been over. In a secular world they thrive, in  a religious (Orthodox Christian or Muslim) they have to be very careful – again as shown throughout history. So when you come into this thread for the sole purpose of proving Christianity is Jewish in origin, which I highly dispute but none-the-less, if that is your intent than how again are you helping?


That is the point. So rebut what I actually posted or move on to Reddit, check out the subreddit on atheism you will have many fans there.


The greatest 'Jew wise' people throughout history have almost entirely been Christian. No internet, no underground media, just a strong faith and personal experience got them there.  So this faith is useless, right?


And German being Pagan? Tell that to the many Churches that litter the landscape there, are you kidding? Europe in general is sprinkled with many old Churches throughout it's lands. Crosses are a prominent feature in many country's flags there. Hitler also did not shy away from his Christian followers, in fact many of his best allies came from that ilk. Why? Cause they already came; 'Jew wise'.


Pas, sorry to hear you cannot be allies because what Christians have down in your home country, but I am not them. And again Christians have also done many great things, they are just not often brought up, it's much more popular to blame the faith of Christianity than to give it any praise – and again that's no coincidence. I can assure you I am an ally in this fight whether you want one or not .


So to summarize unless you can show how Jew wise Christians actually hinder our efforts, despite all the historical evidence to the contrary, then I will continue to maintain you are only causing needless divide. On the contrary I can easily show how secularism helps the Jew, but I will not blame all people without faith for the actions of some in the past. That's what this debate was about originally; not whether or not the faith is true, but rather whether it is useful, and -hands down- it's been proven this faith is very useful in fighting the Jew.

[scorpio]

THEZOG/YOMAMA wanted me to share this with y'all:

Christianity Exposed
http://christianitydebunked.wordpress.com/

Why is Yomama still banned?
He might have some insightful things to add to this.....

[Destroyer911]

@ Rockclimber


A SHORT HISTORY of CHRISTIANIZING the GERMANIC PEOPLES
Why are we returning to Asatru, our native spirituality and renouncing Christianity which has been the dominant religion of our peoples for over one thousand years? An equally important question to answer is "Why did our ancestors leave their native religion in the first place?"...   Historical evidence has shown that long ago our people were taken from their ancient spirituality through deliberate treachery, deceit, threats and violent forceful means of making the various Germanic tribes accept Christianity, they did this by:

1.DECEIT; Falsifying the true nature and content of the teachings of Christianity.

2.TREATCHERY/ CO-ERSION; Christian missionaries desacralized and demonized the Germanic deities declaring that they are really demons, witches or as in the case of Odin, Satan himself. They also further lessened their status by turning many of them into Christian saints. There was strong pressure from Economic sanctions imposed by the Christian law forbidding business transactions between Heathens & Christians, unless the Heathen would accept the Christian religion and baptism.

3.THEFT; Directly and purposefully stealing many Germanic heathen Holy Days, traditions, symbolism, and vocabulary and converting these to have Christian meanings.

4.VIOLENT FORCE; Genocidal wars, murder.
While the Kings and Noblemen of the various Germanic tribes were the first to be converted to Christianity, it was not quite the same Christianity as was practiced in Rome, nor that which is entailed in the Christian bible. In the Germanic lands the Christian missionaries portrayed Christ as a Germanic, spear weilding hero. Heathen charms were converted to Christian uses. Such thoroughly Heathen ritual celebrations such as Yule-tide and Easter were forcefully converted to Christianity and given new Christian meanings. Symbel, the ritualized drinking rounds continued to be practiced, with the toasts being Christianized. And the sacred feasts continued almost unchanged. Heathen temples were destroyed or converted to churches.
For the common folk merely the names of the Gods changed. They continued to practice Heathenry in their homes, and throughout their lives. A long period of mixed faith continued long after the conversion of their tribal leaders, Heathen traditions, although not actual worship survived in many forms right up to the present day. Plows which had been blessed in the fields in Heathen times were brought into the Churches to be blessed in the spring. Christian festivals were celebrated with Heathen customs such as Maypole dancing, and the dead honored in funeral feasts as they had prior to the conversion. Even the Heathen gods were still being invoked in charms for healing as late as the 10th century on the continent and Britain. And as late as the reign of King Canute in the 11th century, laws had to be enacted against Heathen practices.
While the Kings would convert their kingdoms to Christianity, very often their successors would simply covert the kingdoms back to Heathenry, and folks would lapse back to the old religion when the Church was not looking.
http://www.odinsvolk.ca/WhyAsatru2.htm

[Destroyer911]

Revelation 911 Their king is the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is [Abaddon,] and in Greek, [Apollyon]--the Destroyer.

Public Gets First Glimpse Of 9/11 Memorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Gth ... =endscreen

Michael Arad

Original Michael Arad design board submitted in the World Trade Center Memorial Design competitionMichael Arad is an Israeli-American architect who best known for being the designer of the World Trade Center Memorial. He won the competition to design the memorial in 2004.  
 
Arad, an Israeli citizen,[1] was born in 1969 in London,[2] where his father, Moshe Arad, a former Israeli ambassador to the United States and Mexico, was on a diplomatic mission. Arad lived in Jerusalem for nine years. He did his military service in a Golani Brigade commando unit.[3]  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Arad

[GordZilla]

Revelation 911 Their king is the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is [Abaddon,] and in Greek, [Apollyon]--the Destroyer.

Public Gets First Glimpse Of 9/11 Memorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Gth ... =endscreen

Michael Arad

Original Michael Arad design board submitted in the World Trade Center Memorial Design competitionMichael Arad is an Israeli-American architect who best known for being the designer of the World Trade Center Memorial. He won the competition to design the memorial in 2004.  
 
Arad, an Israeli citizen,[1] was born in 1969 in London,[2] where his father, Moshe Arad, a former Israeli ambassador to the United States and Mexico, was on a diplomatic mission. Arad lived in Jerusalem for nine years. He did his military service in a Golani Brigade commando unit.[3]  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Arad

This deserves a new thread, interesting topic on its own.

[Destroyer911]

Rooted in pagan celebrations, German Christmas has many rituals


This quintessentially Christian holiday has pagan roots. Centuries ago, Germanic tribes celebrated the winter solstice by lighting fires and candles and bringing evergreens into their homes to symbolize the returning light and the coming of spring.

Christians, in a bid to convert these "nonbelievers," followed their timing and adapted their rituals: They designated Dec. 24 as the night of Christ's birth and made the evergreen tree a symbol of the Christmas holiday.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z1qdobrppp

We are the joyous Hitler youth,
We do not need any Christian virtue
Our leader is our savior
The Pope and Rabbi shall be gone
We want to be pagans once again."

- Song sung by Hitler youth

[Michael K.]

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Oswald_of_Northumbria

Oswald of Northumbria

The holy, glorious, right-victorious martyr and right-believing King Oswald of Northumbria (c. 604-August 5, 641/642) was the king of Northumbria (Northern England) from 633 or 634 until his death. The son of Æthelfrith of Bernicia, King of Northumbria, he is best remembered as a Christian martyr. His feast day is August 5.

Life

After his father was defeated and killed by Raedwald of East Anglia, Oswald fled to Dalriada, where he was converted to Christianity by the monks of Iona. He fought under Connadd Cerr in the Battle of Fid Eoin in Ireland.

After the king of Gwynedd, Cadwallon ap Cadfan (in alliance with Penda of Mercia), killed King St. Edwin of Northumbria in battle at Hatfield Chase in 632 (or 633), Northumbria was split between its sub-kingdoms of Bernicia and Deira. St. Oswald's half-brother Eanfrith became king of Bernicia, but he was killed by Cadwallon in 633 (or 634) after attempting to negotiate peace. Oswald then returned from exile with an army and marched against Cadwallon; his ranks were bolstered by Scots sent by the king of Dalriada, Domnal Brecc. The day before the two sides met in battle at Heavenfield, Oswald made his soldiers construct a wooden cross. He knelt down, holding the cross in position until enough earth had been thrown in the hole to make it stand firm. He then prayed and asked his army to join in. In the battle that followed, the Welsh were routed despite their superior numbers and pursued for miles by the Northumbrians; Cadwallon himself was killed.

Following this victory, Oswald reunited Northumbria. He is considered to have been Bretwalda ("Lord of Britain") for the eight years of his rule (both Bede and the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle say that Oswald's reign was actually considered to be nine years, the ninth year being accounted for by assigning to Oswald the year preceding his rule, "on account of the heathenism practised by those who had ruled that one year between him and Edwin"), although his authority over the other Anglo-Saxon kingdoms seems to have been limited. He did, however, form an alliance with Wessex under Cynegils: Cynegils converted to Christianity and accepted baptism, and Oswald married Cyneburh, the daughter of Cynegils. With her he had a son, Æthelwald.

Although Edwin had previously converted to Christianity in 627, it was Oswald who did the most to spread the religion in Northumbria. It was he who gave the island of Lindisfarne to the bishop St. Aidan, who established a monastery there.

Oswald won some successes against the British to the north, but the primary concern of his reign was Northumbria's conflict with the rising power of Mercia under Penda. He was killed by the Mercians at the Battle of Maserfield in 641 or 642, and his body was dismembered by the pagan Penda. (Bede says that Oswald died in the thirty-eighth year of his age.) Oswald's head and limbs were placed on stakes, but according to legend, one of his arms was taken by his pet raven and dropped on a tree. The people quickly came to regard Oswald as a martyr and saint: a holy well of healing was said to have sprung up at the spot where the arm had landed, and the site soon became known as Oswestry, or "Oswald's Tree." His holy relics now reside with those of Ss. Aidan and Cuthbert in the cathedral at Durham, England.  

Miracles

    One Easter he was about to dine with Saint Aidan. A crowd of poor came begging alms. Oswald gave them all the food and the wealth he carried on him, then had his silver table settings broken up and distributed.

    Saint Aidan was so moved by the king's generosity that he grasped Oswald's right hand and exclaimed, "May this hand never perish!" For years after, the king was considered invincible. The hand has, indeed, survived, as it is enshrined as a relic in the Bamburgh church.

    Oswald's body was hacked to pieces on the battle field where he fell, and his head and arms stuck on poles in triumph. One arm taken to an ash tree by Oswald's pet raven. Where the arm fell to the ground, a holy well sprang up.

    Once a horseman was riding near Heavenfield. The horse developed a medical problem, fell to the ground, rolling around in pain. At one point it happened to roll over the spot where Oswald had died, and was immediately cured.

    The horseman told his story at a nearby inn. The people there took a paralysed girl to the same spot, and she was cured, too.

    People began to take earth from the spot to put into water for the sick to drink. So much earth was removed that it left a pit large enough for a man to stand in.

    Oswald's niece wanted to have the king buried at Bardney Abbey, Lincolnshire. The monks were reluctant as they were not on good terms with Northumbrian overlords. However, the coffin admitted a light at night. The monks considered it a sign, and allowed the burial.

    When the monks washed the bones prior to enshrinement, they poured the water onto the ground nearby. Local people soon learned that the ground had power to heal.

    A sick man who had led a dissolute life drank water which contained a chip of the stake on which Oswald's head had been spiked. The man was healed, reformed his life.

    A little boy was cured of a fever by sitting by Oswald's tomb at Bardney.

    Pieces from the Heavenfield cross were claimed to have healing powers.

    Healing powers were claimed for moss that grew on the cross.

    A plague in Sussex was stopped by Oswald's intercession.

    Archbishop Willibrord recounted to Saint Wilfrid tales of miracles worked in Germany by Oswald's relics.

http://www.oodegr.com/english/biographi ... amburg.htm

Saint Ansgar (Anskar, Anschar, Anscharius, Scharies) of Germany and Evangelist of Scandinavian lands  († 865)



Born near Amiens, Picardy, France in 801, died in Bremen, Germany on February 3, 865.

With the coming of the barbarians after the death of Charlemagne, darkness fell upon Europe. From the forests and the fjords of the north, defying storm and danger, came a horde of pirate invaders, prowling round the undefended coasts, sweeping up the broad estuaries, and spreading havoc and fear. No town, however fair, no church, however sacred, and no community, however strong, was immune from their fury. Like a river of death the Vikings poured across Europe.

It's hard to believe that there would be an outbreak of missionary activity at such a time, but in Europe's darkest hour there were those who never faltered, and who set out to convert the pagan invader. St.Ansgar was such a man. As a young boy of a noble family he was received at Corbie monastery in Picardy and educated under Saint Abelard and Paschasius Radbert. Once professed, he was transferred to New Corbie at Westphalia. He once said to a friend, " One miracle I would, if worthy, ask the Lord to grant me, and that is, that by his grace, he would make me a good man."

In France a call was made for a priest to go as a missionary to the Danes, and Ansgar, a young monk, volunteered. His friends tried to dissuade him, so dangerous was the mission. Nevertheless, when King Harold, who had become a Christian during his exile, returned to Denmark, Ansgar and another monk accompanied him. Equipped with tents and books, these two monks set out in 826 and founded a school in Denmark. Here Ansgar's companion died, and Ansgar was obliged to move on to Sweden alone when his success in missionary work led King Bjørn to invite him to Sweden.

On the way his boat was attacked by pirates and he lost all his possessions, arriving destitute at a small Swedish village. After this unpromising start, he succeeded forming the nucleus of a church -- the first Christian church in Sweden -- and penetrated inland, confronting the heathen in their strongholds and converting the pagan chiefs.

Ansgar became the first archbishop of Hamburg, Germany and abbot of New Corbie in Westphalia c. 831. The Pope Gregory IV appointed him legate to the Scandinavian countries and confides the Scandinavian souls to his care. He evangelized there for the next 14 years, building churches in Norway, Denmark and northern Germany.

He saw his accomplishments obliterated when pagan Vikings invaded in 845, overran Scandinavia, and destroyed Hamburg. Thereafter the natives reverted to paganism. Ansgar was then appointed archbishop of Bremen around 848, but he was unable to establish himself there for a time and Pope Nicholas 1 united that See with Hamburg. Nicholas also gave him jurisdiction over Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

Ansgar returned to Denmark and Sweden in 854 to resume spreading the Gospel. When he returned to Denmark he saw the church and school he had built there, destroyed before his eyes by an invading army.

His heart almost broke as he saw his work reduced to ashes" The Lord gave," he said, "and the Lord have taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord." With a handful of followers he wandered through his ruined diocese, but it was a grim and weary time. "Be assured my dear brother, " said the primate of France, who had commissioned him to this task, "that what we have striven to accomplish for the glory of Christ will yet, by God's help, bring forth fruit."

Heartened by these words, and with unfailing courage, Ansgar pursued his Swedish mission. Though he had but four churches left and could find no one willing to go in his place, he established new outposts and consolidated his work.

King Olaf had cast a die to decide whether to allow entrance of Christians, an action that Ansgar mourned as callous and unbefitting. He was encouraged, however, by a council of chiefs at which an aged man spoke in his defense. "Those who bring to us this new faith," he said" by their voyage here have been exposed to many dangers. We see our own deities failing us. Why reject a religion thus brought to our very doors? Why not permit the servants of God to remain among us? Listen to my council and reject not what is plainly for our advantage."

As a result, Ansgar was free to preach the Christian faith, and though he met with many setbacks, he continued his work until he died at the age of 64 and was buried at Bremen. He was a great missionary, an indefatigable, outstanding preacher, renowned for his austerity, holiness of life, and charity to the poor. He built schools and was a great liberator of slaves captured by the Vikings. He converted King Erik of Jutland and was called the "Apostle of the North", yet Sweden reverted completely to paganism shortly after Ansgar's death.

Ansgar often wore a hair shirt, lived on bread and water when his health permitted it, and added short personal prayers to each Psalm in his Psalter, thus contributing to a form of devotion that soon became widespread.

Miracles were said to have been worked by him. After Ansgar's death, the work he had begun came to a stop and the area reverted to paganism. Christianity did not begin to make headway in Scandinavia until two centuries later with the work of Saint Sigfried and others. A life story was written about Ansgar by his fellow missionary in Scandinavia, Saint Rembert (Attwater, Attwater2, Benedictines, Bentley, Coulson, Delaney, Encyclopedia, Fanner, Gill, Robinson, White)

In art Ansgar is shown with converted Danes with him (White), wearing a fur pelisse (Roeder). He may sometimes be shown otherwise in a boat with King Harold and companions or in a cape and miter Hamburg Cathedral (Roeder).

Saint Ansgar is the patron of Denmark, Germany and Iceland (White). He is venerated in Old Corbie (Picardy) and New Corbie (Saxony) as well as in Scandinavia (Roeder).

[Rockclimber]

Was YoMama banned? If so can we un-ban him? I think he would have a lot to say here and would love to debate Talmud Timmy

[Michael K.]

Some of ZCF's pre-ban (not his first ban, but his second or third) highlights:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15147&start=195


checkitb4uwreckit:

I bet you're a wrinkly 65 year old geezer Titzpatrick. That's why you cling so desperately to your Christ-cult....That the best insult you can conjure Queerspatrick? Guess which show I heard your queer ass on? Oh, that's right, NOWHERE. Because nobody gives a damn what you have to say and, nobody even knows who you are since you haven't done a thing. Oh you run a pointless little blog where you post hollywood gossips. What a champ! :clap:

"not much older" means like 20 years older right Fagzpatrick? You're too scared to state your age because you are a wrinkly old geezer who's ashamed that it took him decades to figure out what I did in a few short years. No one in their twenties would be as fanatical about Christ-cultianity as you are.

Moe Foe :

MSMD perhpaps you could reel in your ego for a second? you've ignored this point twice now:

Otherwise you've ignored the most salient points - why would masonry and Bolshevism, both of which I assume we can agree were and are Jewish constructs actively try to infiltrate that which they already control - The Catholic Church?"

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15427


checkitb4uwreckit:

Typical bullshit spin from the ignoramus Christopher Marlowe. The guy is defending having pure faith in an invisible deity and his slander against Atheism is to claim that it is also "a belief" (something he is trying to defend). Atheists don't have to "prove" anything since we aren't making any claims. What religutards like you are alleging has not been demonstrated to be true in the first place in any capacity congruent with the laws of physics or modern science. You are alleging there is an invisible man sitting int the sky who is all-powerful and all-knowing and that you can telepathically speak to him by pointing your hands at the sky. EITHER PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR RIDICULOUS DELUSIONS AND HALLUCINATIONS .. so far you have offered not a scratch of real proof that this claim is true. You are just making a fool out of yourself.

Asking for atheists to "disprove the existence of god [which god, christian, muslim, hindu, jewish, native indian, ancient greek, ancient roman, ancient egyptian?]" is the equivalent to asking me to "disprove" the existence of invisible leprechauns in your shoes. You're seriously messed up in the head Marlowe, and worthless to the anti-Jewish cause....

More stupid whinging bullshit from Marlowe. He just can't admit that he has no evidence for the Christian god, none at all. Believing in the Christian god is equivalent to believing in Holocaustianity. The christian religion endeavors to suppress "blasphemy", demands conformity in terms of orthodox belief, demands people uphold of the correct dogma, etc — all of these are hallmarks of the religion of Holocaustianity too.

Hey, I've gotten in peoples faces in real life and told them the Holocaust is an out and out hoax and that JEWS are guilty of the genocide they accuse Germans of. I almost got in a scrap the other night at a party when these two morons were astonishingly denying that Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a soccer field. So don't fucking call me a coward big-shot. You don't even know me.

I don't know what threshold event got him banned, but it seems as if he has a pattern of ad hominem attack and a tendency to selectively ignore major elements of the argument he is engaged in.  Maybe he is not capable of playing well with others for personal reasons.

[Ognir]

Scott he was banned several times already, not sure why
If he behaves himself, let him back for a week and we'll see

[Whaler]

Some of ZCF's pre-ban (not his first ban, but his second or third) highlights:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15147&start=195


checkitb4uwreckit:

I bet you're a wrinkly 65 year old geezer Titzpatrick. That's why you cling so desperately to your Christ-cult....That the best insult you can conjure Queerspatrick? Guess which show I heard your queer ass on? Oh, that's right, NOWHERE. Because nobody gives a damn what you have to say and, nobody even knows who you are since you haven't done a thing. Oh you run a pointless little blog where you post hollywood gossips. What a champ! :clap:

"not much older" means like 20 years older right Fagzpatrick? You're too scared to state your age because you are a wrinkly old geezer who's ashamed that it took him decades to figure out what I did in a few short years. No one in their twenties would be as fanatical about Christ-cultianity as you are.

Moe Foe :

MSMD perhpaps you could reel in your ego for a second? you've ignored this point twice now:

Otherwise you've ignored the most salient points - why would masonry and Bolshevism, both of which I assume we can agree were and are Jewish constructs actively try to infiltrate that which they already control - The Catholic Church?"

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15427


checkitb4uwreckit:

Typical bullshit spin from the ignoramus Christopher Marlowe. The guy is defending having pure faith in an invisible deity and his slander against Atheism is to claim that it is also "a belief" (something he is trying to defend). Atheists don't have to "prove" anything since we aren't making any claims. What religutards like you are alleging has not been demonstrated to be true in the first place in any capacity congruent with the laws of physics or modern science. You are alleging there is an invisible man sitting int the sky who is all-powerful and all-knowing and that you can telepathically speak to him by pointing your hands at the sky. EITHER PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR RIDICULOUS DELUSIONS AND HALLUCINATIONS .. so far you have offered not a scratch of real proof that this claim is true. You are just making a fool out of yourself.

Asking for atheists to "disprove the existence of god [which god, christian, muslim, hindu, jewish, native indian, ancient greek, ancient roman, ancient egyptian?]" is the equivalent to asking me to "disprove" the existence of invisible leprechauns in your shoes. You're seriously messed up in the head Marlowe, and worthless to the anti-Jewish cause....

More stupid whinging bullshit from Marlowe. He just can't admit that he has no evidence for the Christian god, none at all. Believing in the Christian god is equivalent to believing in Holocaustianity. The christian religion endeavors to suppress "blasphemy", demands conformity in terms of orthodox belief, demands people uphold of the correct dogma, etc — all of these are hallmarks of the religion of Holocaustianity too.

Hey, I've gotten in peoples faces in real life and told them the Holocaust is an out and out hoax and that JEWS are guilty of the genocide they accuse Germans of. I almost got in a scrap the other night at a party when these two morons were astonishingly denying that Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a soccer field. So don't fucking call me a coward big-shot. You don't even know me.

I don't know what threshold event got him banned, but it seems as if he has a pattern of ad hominem attack and a tendency to selectively ignore major elements of the argument he is engaged in.  Maybe he is not capable of playing well with others for personal reasons.

Well, yeah...He was like 19 years old and probably had a dozen Molsons in him.


He has his own website now and he's maturing. I guarantee he's not going to be wasting his time on forums anymore...Well, I'm sure he will occasionally...just not habitually.




 Hell, I still go bonkers on people in forums occasionally and I'm in my early 30's.

[sullivan]

Scott he was banned several times already, not sure why
If he behaves himself, let him back for a week and we'll see

I've lifted the ban on Yo Mama.

[Whaler]

Ok, I just want to make a point about Giuliani....

I think he is going kinda overboard with the Christian bashing.  

However, he has an excellent show and I have been listening too him for about a year. I love how he picks a historical topic and discusses it rather then doing the typical paytriotard radio host routine of  talking about current events. It's an educational experience which I love.

 I find his bible bashing entertaining because I have never been religious. I will elaborate tomorrow...I'm kinda drunk right now.

I

[pas]

Micheal K. wrote:

I don't know what threshold event got him banned, but it seems as if he has a pattern of ad hominem attack and a tendency to selectively ignore major elements of the argument he is engaged in. Maybe he is not capable of playing well with others for personal reasons.

YoMomma is not the same person as ''checkitb4uwreckit''.YoMomma was banned, ''checkitb4uwreckit'' has moved on I think and is quite busy with his own site:ZionCrimeFactory.com.
You conveniantly let out the parts where ''checkitb4uwreckit'' was attackted first by your co-religionists and you're only showing his response.You are cherry picking to make your own group look as a victim to unwarranted agression.I find this a dishonourable tactic.

Gordzilla wrote:

Christians, historically, have been the biggest thorn in the Jew's side BAR NONE! I shutter at how far along they'd be by now if not faced with any resistance from Christians and Muslims along the way

3.5 billion of the world are Chistians and Muslims and we are all living under the Jew World Order.That ''thorn'' worked out pretty good...for the jew!

Timothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

No. If you were truly generalizing about Christianity, you would recognize Christianity as an anti-Judaic force, being that the majority of Christians are anti-Zionist

I'm familiar with that claim and I disagree.I know a lot of Christians and of them less than 1% even knew wat Zionism was (before I talked too them, ofcourse) and they're all for Israel.

In contrast, one could argue that the majority of atheism is in harmony with Judaism.

"A majoriy of Atheism is in harmony with Holocaustianity" Don't you see the contradiction in these statements?An atheist doesn't believe in supernatural stories without reasonable proof.So the people you call atheist here are RELIGIOUS like you.

atheism (nihilism, agnosticism, etc) was at the centre of Bolshevik terror in Russia.

Yeah Torah-Atheism.

At least Christians don't have that association.

No, you're God's special people who can do no wrong!

And for you to post the ramblings of ZCF, who demonstrates pathological behaviour with his constant flipping (Atheism is Jewish..er, wait, not it isn't) isn't helping your case.

Those ''ramblings'' are for everyone to see that this discussion is futile because ZCF already made a solid case against religion.And what you call ''constant flipping'' I see as progression whereas he is constantly challenges his own views in order to find the ultimate truth.Unlike him you were born with the ultimate truth and people like me are helpers for the jew trying to undermine your faith, am I right?

it's about defending it against the fallacious charge that it aids Jewish evolutionary strategies.

After 2000 years of Christianity what do we have:A Jew World Order.

Step up and show it!

Says the one who's lurking in the shadow. :clap:

I'm done with running around in circles wasting time.

[Rockclimber]

:lol;

As i said not one opinion will change and these debates will only cause resentment towards one another. Was I right or was I right?

You guys (Christians) say the Christian has been the biggest thorn in the side of the Jew but some of the biggest critics out there are non-Christian also. And in the scheme of things the number of Christians who did speak out was a very small population and they have largely been marginalized if not demonized for the "anti-semitic" rants. So the jew is still 'winning' are they not? 40-million Christian zionists says so and still beleive they're 'god's chosen' and that we are all nutts!  

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Professor MacDonald says Christianity hinders Jewish evolutionary strategies                                                
                       
Credentials: Professor of Psychology, author of four volumes on Jewish evolutionary strategies







Charles Giuliani says Christianity advances Jewish evolutionary strategies

Credentials: an alleged theological degree, a few years of Jewish research




Who you gonna believe?

[Rockclimber]

Professor MacDonald says Christianity hinders Jewish evolutionary strategies                                                
                       
Credentials: Professor of Psychology, author of four volumes on Jewish evolutionary strategies







Charles Giuliani says Christianity advances Jewish evolutionary strategies

Credentials: an alleged theological degree, a few years of Jewish research




Who you gonna believe?

When did he say this and where is your proof and it what context did he say it?

and when are you going to debate him, thouest shit slinger?  

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

When did he say this and where is your proof and it what context did he say it?

and when are you going to debate him, thouest shit slinger?  

Ah, caught ya, Rockclimber. You obviously didn't read part 2 or else you would know where MacDonald said this. How the hell can you be making comments, and you're not even reading what others are saying??

[GordZilla]

Gordzilla wrote:

Christians, historically, have been the biggest thorn in the Jew's side BAR NONE! I shutter at how far along they'd be by now if not faced with any resistance from Christians and Muslims along the way

3.5 billion of the world are Chistians and Muslims and we are all living under the Jew World Order.That ''thorn'' worked out pretty good...for the jew!

That's a little disingenuous on so many fronts, the biggest being; as opposed to whom?? Who has done better against the Jew?  Secondly it was never a worldwide ousting, so therefore the Jew always found shelter, waited and returned after the smoke had cleared to once again infiltrate and corrupt from the inside out -as always.  And finally if not for this resistance the Jew would be much further along ...what? atheism would have slowed them?!? (these points were covered in my post but since you took it out of context I am going to put it back in)

 I've heard this argument so many times; 'well if they (Christians, Muslims) were so good at getting rid of the Jew then why do we still have this problem?' and the answer is already given; it's never been practiced on a worldwide scale. But more importantly to note is; IT'S NEVER BEEN PRACTICE BY ATHIESTS OR SECURALISTS- PERIOD! They have NEVER been 'Jew wise' on a whole.  Your bias of the faith allows you, and many others (MSMD, YoMoma for instance) to keep continually missing the critical point; Their faith made the common man 'Jew wise'!!  It is exactly for that reason the Jew HAD TO corrupt and destroy these faiths so that this would never happen again. (They have all but succeeded now in that endeavor). They hate Jesus for exactly the point of Him calling them out for His fellow man.

 Which brings us back, yet again, to the point of this debate which is; why help them along in that endeavor? You have here,  at this forum,  a few faithful 'Jew wise' people who have much in common with these same people of the past who were at least temporarily successful of ridding themselves of the Jew and you choose to go after them rather than the Jew?!?  Because why? Cause this point, or that one, of the bible makes no sense to you? Do you not see the futility in that??

It is not the faith that is on trial here, in this thread, it is people who would rather spend their efforts focusing and defacing 'Jew wise' Christians because of their faith and nothing more. Despite the fact that these same people show you -time and time again- that at least their faith has provided some resistance to the Jew, historically, yet you still see this as more important than actually going after the real criminals. "They" say Christians and Muslims are so intolerant, yet on this forum shared with 'Jew wise' Christians and Muslims the intolerance is coming from a completely different side.  "Oh you believe in Jesus, you can't be any help to our cause, I can't ally myself with you, and even when we admit the Christians have bested the Jews many times historically, you are still no help"  How fricken ridiculous is that?!? That is why Timmy and others get their guard up when people who are supposedly 'Jew wise' spend more time criticizing their personal faith rather than the Jew themselves.

Imagine an inanimate object, a tool if you will, that has bested the Jew many prior times in history, but now because the color of its paint you say; " it can't help us, people that use it can't either ...look it's so not fashionable! the color is wrong" That's what this debate is like from my perspective. You cannot side with people like us by your choice not ours. By your choice have you shown intolerance, not by mine, I have clearly stated many times; if they are 'Jew wise' than that's all I need to know to ally myself with them. Apparently others need more qualifiers than that. "They can't have a faith because I don't have any faith, so therefore we can't be allies.. Even though it's been illustrated to me that their faith actually does provide some resistance to the Jew for them, historically, I still can't see them as allies cause their faith is wrong ..I read the bible and see... look here... and this part..." etc.  ...pfft!

It's so disingenuous and it is so not helpful to our collective cause. I've asked this before but again; if we were Muslim, would you have less of a problem? How about Buddhist?  Or Native Americans believing in the Great Spirit? Or Pagans? etc. I personally would have no problem in allying with any of them, in as much as they are 'Jew wise' . I suspect you'd only have a problem with allying yourself with Christians, and maybe Muslims, but I doubt you'd have a problem with Buddhists, or Taoists, or Pagans (as already illustrated by Destroyer911) etc. It is your personal bias that keeps you from wanting to align with us, a bias helped and promoted  immensely from the modern Jewish main stream by the way. A bias, that holds no foundation in historical fact, that is if you are to say 'this  faith does not help in the fight against the Jew'. A bias that is totally missing the mark! And a bias that has no tolerance for any 'Jew wise' people  that see things differently.

That is why personally I've had a problem, in the past, with people like Yo Moma, I mean look at his blog, does it really help our collective cause to spend so much time debunking Christianity? Seriously? (as if the Jew is not already doing this ten fold himself) Your enemy -and mine- is the Jew! Christians historically have been the Jew's enemy as well. And, apparently  to this present day, 'Jew wise' Christians have also been 'Jew wise'  atheists and secularists' enemy as well.
It's ridiculous on its face. And personally it brings my guard up as well. You are doing the Jew's work for them, that's how I see it. Our energy could and should  be better spent.

Now carry on and tell us how it is the bible is untrue. How it is that secularism will save us in this fight against the Jew. How it is that 'Jew wise' Christian bashing deserves more of your collective effort than attacking the REAL enemy.

'Jew wise' Christians throughout history numbered in the millions, as well as 'Jew wise' Muslims. However 'Jew wise' atheists?  ...seriously?  Do I need to say it?  But because 'Jew wise' atheists don't believe, then therefore we are the problem -not the Jews!!...man, take your blinders off!

[GordZilla]

:lol;

As i said not one opinion will change and these debates will only cause resentment towards one another. Was I right or was I right?

You guys (Christians) say the Christian has been the biggest thorn in the side of the Jew but some of the biggest critics out there are non-Christian also. And in the scheme of things the number of Christians who did speak out was a very small population and they have largely been marginalized if not demonized for the "anti-semitic" rants. So the jew is still 'winning' are they not? 40-million Christian zionists says so and still beleive they're 'god's chosen' and that we are all nutts!  

'Jew wise' Christians have indeed been on the forefront of the most vocal to ever speak out against the Jew, and more importantly their audience was there and ready to hear the message. Just think back to Father Coughlin's time, yes only one man, but he commanded a huge audience comprised mostly of Christians who were ready and willing to hear his message. Christian Zionism is a result of a NEEDED Jewish infiltration into the faith ('needed' from their perspective). And as a result of their efforts Father Coughlin could no longer command a huge audience of 'Jew wise' Christians as he did in the past - not today he couldn't -he'd be called a hater right off the bat. Do you not see the strength this faith had? Cause that's the fact of the matter. I've known some old 'Jew wise' Christians myself, they did exist up to and until the Jew could completely subjugated their faith and turned it into the exact opposite of its original and long held intent.

As  far as other great speakers against Judaism? How many were not of faith as compared to those of faith , historically .....seriously RockClimber??? And  historically those speakers had a larger audience, and of them how many were not of faith as compared to the faithful ones?

At this point it is strictly only your personal bias that keeps you from seeing the truth in that, cause historically, like it or not, that's how it went down. Thousands listened and heard the Father's radio addresses, and today that number would be the same or higher if not for the attack and subversion of the Christian faith into the Christian Zionist (Judaeochristian) faith we have today. It was done out of COMPLETE NECESSITY on their part. So go on, continue helping in that process -their process.

Or is it you simply don't believe Father Coughlin, and others like him, found a huge audience ready to hear in days gone past? Do you believe the many countries and regions that ousted the Jews also did not have preachers like him in their churches? Do you believe I'm lying when I say I knew Christians who were 'Jew wise' simply from their faith and personal experiences? Seriously? And you think the faithful are living in a dream world , lol, that pendulum apparently swings both ways.

[Rockclimber]

When did he say this and where is your proof and it what context did he say it?

and when are you going to debate him, thouest shit slinger?  

Ah, caught ya, Rockclimber. You obviously didn't read part 2 or else you would know where MacDonald said this. How the hell can you be making comments, and you're not even reading what others are saying??

You lost credibility after part 1 with your baseless attacks on Giuliani. Truth of the matter is I have read very little of your ramblings since I can't take a guy serious who is constantly being called out by Giuliani to debate him but would rather play keyboard warrior. Where is your rebuttal to Charles show, the many points he made that prove the Bible is full of errors both OT and NT? I have seen little if any refutation in this regard but I see all this 'high five'ng' and cognitive dissonance as if you Christians have won some kind of victory. It's weird but you Christians haven't changed a single opinion...as I said, this thread is a big waste of time, I know it now like I knew it then. But keep going if it makes you happy  

[Rockclimber]

:lol;

As i said not one opinion will change and these debates will only cause resentment towards one another. Was I right or was I right?

You guys (Christians) say the Christian has been the biggest thorn in the side of the Jew but some of the biggest critics out there are non-Christian also. And in the scheme of things the number of Christians who did speak out was a very small population and they have largely been marginalized if not demonized for the "anti-semitic" rants. So the jew is still 'winning' are they not? 40-million Christian zionists says so and still beleive they're 'god's chosen' and that we are all nutts!  

'Jew wise' Christians have indeed been on the forefront of the most vocal to ever speak out against the Jew, and more importantly their audience was there and ready to hear the message. Just think back to Father Coughlin's time, yes only one man, but he commanded a huge audience comprised mostly of Christians who were ready and willing to hear his message. Christian Zionism is a result of a NEEDED Jewish infiltration into the faith ('needed' from their perspective). And as a result of their efforts Father Coughlin could no longer command a huge audience of 'Jew wise' Christians as he did in the past - not today he couldn't -he'd be called a hater right off the bat. Do you not see the strength this faith had? Cause that's the fact of the matter. I've known some old 'Jew wise' Christians myself, they did exist up to and until the Jew could completely subjugated their faith and turned it into the exact opposite of its original and long held intent.

As  far as other great speakers against Judaism? How many were not of faith as compared to those of faith , historically .....seriously RockClimber??? And  historically those speakers had a larger audience, and of them how many were not of faith as compared to the faithful ones?

At this point it is strictly only your personal bias that keeps you from seeing the truth in that, cause historically, like it or not, that's how it went down. Thousands listened and heard the Father's radio addresses, and today that number would be the same or higher if not for the attack and subversion of the Christian faith into the Christian Zionist (Judaeochristian) faith we have today. It was done out of COMPLETE NECESSITY on their part. So go on, continue helping in that process -their process.

Or is it you simply don't believe Father Coughlin, and others like him, found a huge audience ready to hear in days gone past? Do you believe the many countries and regions that ousted the Jews also did not have preachers like him in their churches? Do you believe I'm lying when I say I knew Christians who were 'Jew wise' simply from their faith and personal experiences? Seriously? And you think the faithful are living in a dream world , lol, that pendulum apparently swings both ways.

I'm not finding fault with those Christians that did come out against he jew but the population is very small that is to say the ones that I can think of. There are plenty of non-Christians speaking out against jews today and they are making good ground and don't have to use the 'good book' to try to prove the control these elite pig jews have the world over. I admire the works of the Coughlin's of yesterday and the Texe Marrs of today and only wished we had more of them. You Christians need to confront the now and yes, use the Coughlin's and Martin Luthers to expose the demons but this religious battle is not going to help anyone win anything.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Personally, I think Charles needs to get out of the NE USA and get down to the SouthWest.  He needs a "lowrider" where he can get in touch with his spiritual self and all barrels. And the traditional life. Like a '64 Impala... in maybe New Mexico? Super polished of course for crusin' and G. Lowrider action.... :

Believe in Jesus:








Yo...

[pas]

Gordzilla wrote:

You cannot side with people like us by your choice not ours

Religious people choose (blind) faith over logic.So I'm of the opinion that they choose not to side with me since it's impossible for me to dismiss logic.Jew-wise Abrahamics (this contradictary term says it all!) also never dismiss logic in most areas EXCEPT their own religion.

I suspect you'd only have a problem with allying yourself with Christians, and maybe Muslims, but I doubt you'd have a problem with Buddhists, or Taoists, or Pagans (as already illustrated by Destroyer911) etc

Yeah, you're correct in pointing out my bias but it's based on the reality that Christianity and Islam are outgrowths of Judaism and if people insist on believing in fairytales than I'd prefer them to be NOT Jewish or jew-related or jew-friendly.

Sorry for not responding to you point by point but it's futile, we shouldn't put too much time in this.I've made my point eventhough you missed it, with all due respect.(I'm sure you feel the same )
I want to conclude that I was maybe wrong in thinking that no alliance could be possible, it's perhaps possible to be allies in certain areas such as intelligence gathering etc. but that won't win the war.

Enjoy your sunday Gord.

[ada]

@pas and destroyer
Please explain why you think that Hitler was good for the Germans.
I claim he was bad for the Germans and very very good for the jews.
Why?
The painful aftermaths for the Germans.
Germany is still not sovereign but occupied by whom?
By a jewish leadership.
German not only lost the war but were defeated a second time an forced in an reeducation program called Frankfurt school.
Germany are the depicted bogeyman to the occupied media.
So the Germans almost became haters of themselves cause they have accepted the lie of the holocaust and the stigmatization.
Since the holocaust the Christians are under permanent suspect of being antisemitic cause of all the lies jews depict in the media.

The jews however got Palestine and are acting as the true nazis today.
They became reunited through the holocaust religion and were able to put a stranglehold called political correctness on any nation.
They now have their unique selling point breaking the back of any criticizer with their new inquisition the worldwide persecution of antisemitism.
But they could blame, ridicule, libel and bully who ever they want.
They became fully rehabilitated  without any question of their atrocities and were showered with billions of reparations.
They became emancipated with the possibility to settle down wherever they want to build up their kehillah communities where ever they want.
They were able to transfer their cultural marxism to america.
So all the ramifications of today turned to a bad turn first for Germany second for America and the rest of the world.
So Hitler was a kind of a jewish messiah than anything else.

[GordZilla]

Pas;

 
 + you too!


Ada,

 I think they meant while he was in power, I can't speak for them, but what happened after Hitler was removed could hardly be the fault of Hitler. What happened to Germany after WW2 was strictly the fault  of the Judah pigs.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Occasionally, there are those "wild cards" like Benjamin Freedman, a Jew who converted to Christianity.  Christianity needs to fight Zionism-Jew perfidy as much as Communism. Freedman actually affirms the Protocols in many ways and likely would not have spoken out against Judaism without coming to a faith in Christ. Note, I'd be dubious of a recently converted Jew to Christ that starts reaching for a "powerful" position in a religious organization, but Freedman wasn't that type and comes across as genuine.  

A CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a very frightening speech.  This speech is an explanation of the plans now being laid to throw the United States into a third world war.  It was made a short time ago before a large group in the Congressional `Room of the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C.  Both the speech and the question and answer period later so electrified the audience that a group of patriots has transferred it to two long-playing records which you may buy to play for friends, clubs, and your church group in your community. The speaker is Mr. Benjamin Freedman, noted authority on Zionism and all of its schemes. Mr. Freedman is a former Jew, and I mean a FORMER Jew.  He has fought the Communist world conspiracy tooth and nail, and stands today as a leading American patriot. We now take you to the speaker's platform to present Benjamin Freedman.

[Freedman's speech]

     What I intend to tell you tonight is something that you have never been able to learn from any other source, and what I tell you now concerns not only you, but your children and the survival of this country and Christianity.  I'm not here just to dish up a few facts to send up your blood pressure, but I'm here to tell you things that will help you preserve what you consider the most sacred things in the world:  the liberty, and the freedom, and the right to live as Christians, where you have a little dignity, and a little right to pursue the things that your conscience tells you are the right things, as Christians.  

   Now, first of all, I'd like to tell you that on August 25th 1960 -- that was shortly before elections -- Senator Kennedy, who is now the President of the United States, went to New York, and delivered an address to the Zionist Organization of America.   In that address, to reduce it to its briefest form, he stated that he would use the armed forces of the United States to preserve the existence of the regime set up in Palestine by the Zionists who are now in occupation of that area.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm