The bible is repulsive!

Started by mgt23, March 22, 2009, 11:14:37 PM

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mgt23

Christians and Jews who know the bible and believe it I find ignorant
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Free Truth

That video was silly.

Attacks on Christianity aren't cool, it's something the "jews" do. Also, most of the "repulsive" things mentioned are from the OLD TESTAMENT, the "jew's bible," no?
What good could posting this video possibly do?

*Noted: mention of gas chambers (2:17)
Heh, how about that...

mgt23

yes i'm aware of the gas chamber bit, but i didnt edit it. I gave it to you unedited. I wanted you to extract value out of it and not whine.
totally and utterly wrong if you think it is an attack on christians. it is an attack on ignorance. have you actually watched it and seen the reference to slavery in there? I'm speaking from a viewpoint of a any christian/jew who takes the bible literally! It is meant to show how religion can be manipulated, so that people have to look to a higher power rather than in themselves and i bet you all the money i have that its precisely these references that will be pulled out to enslave myself and others when the time comes....
It is meant to show how easily cultic thinking can be used to justify slavery and indeed it has been in history. This is why in my opinion that certain(not all) evangelicals +Judaism's secret masters morally justify what the are doing. They are in essence doing their job, which is to obey the bible.
I'm sorry if that is unpalatable for you, that I believe certain fundamentalist religious people are brainwashed.
But I have to post this to show you what ignorance is capable of. If you think this video is incorrect please please point out the error in the quotes and the fallibilty of the logic. But dont whine that I'm being sectarian. I offered to open up a sideline forum for this topic for people who wish to debate and I'm waiting......Prove me wrong so I can listen.

here is another video showing the total ignorance of racism/despotism coming your way...
please note how the moshiach is beyond any form accountability or questioning reason.
[youtube:xoup65yg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwIyJs_ZUuA[/youtube]xoup65yg]

Ognir

I'd hate for religious people to flock to TiU to respond
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Anonymous

It's all a matter of interpretation.
That's all it ever is.
Like anything...if it don't make sense then, it is in all likelihood... Bull-Shit.

Rockclimber

I always have to laugh at these self proclaimed know-it-alls who start these types of debates.  This whole thing sounds very jewwy to me.

Here is wisdom: No one will win this debate in the end, just a lot of hard feelings and wasted energy.

You do not know what's on the other side. And you certainly weren't there in the beginning.

I'll take my chances on my beliefs.

Call me closed minded, whatever, doesn't matter. That's my last words in this thread. I don't waste my time on hardened hearts and I sure don't appreciate supreme arrogance. You have made your impression on me, and now mine is on you.

mgt23

QuoteCall me closed minded, whatever, doesn't matter. That's my last words in this thread. I don't waste my time on hardened hearts and I sure don't appreciate supreme arrogance.

interesting quote.

if fact i don't know it all. in fact i would like a christian/rabbi to tell me please that the quotations are taken out of context? That indeed they are incorrect and that god didn't say that and that that was incorrect interpretation. Focusing on those who actually agree with the above videos and seeing how rich and how much political influence they lead-could be instructive. Of course literal christianity/judaism is not the only form of zionism. but i think maybe religion is a gateway to zionism.
People who think they are jesus need identifying and analysying.
So i am not going to get nor intend to start a slanging match. My only intention is to have me refuted. Forget personalities for a second its about the dangers and what they are.

btw I am not a jew.

Rockclimber

QuotePeople who think they are jesus need identifying and analysying.

I don't know where that came from but I can ASSURE you that I don't believe I'm Jesus. Not even slightly close.

Shiksa Rage

Ognir deliberetly eschewed a Religion section on his forum. For good reason I believe.
I don't force my beliefs down your throat, so please don't force your lack of them down mine.

mgt23

You will note that that this is in the personal thoughts section and not in the "witchhunters section". I dont see how i am ramming my views down your throat. if you feel uncomfortable then dont reply, i dont feel the need to "save you". i feel that is a great shame that there is no forum to express those views for the sake of "unity". In the film "V for vendetta" the arch-chancellor uses the phrase "unity is strength". I just want someone who believes literally in such stuff and frequents the infounderground to try and "save me". Figures like reverend sun young moon or sai baba or osho or l ron hubbard i have detailed files on. Courtesy of wikileaks they make uncomfortable reading. I have no wish to open up another section if the mods and admin dont want to and am happy to just have a thread for those who put their god/messiah above the cause of Anti-Zionism. These are my personal thoughts that I wont have crushed for your comfortbility.
I intend on winning the battle against Zionism, not against religion par se.

Free Truth

I am not religious, and I have no interest on debating it, but I damn sure respect true Christians and Muslims and will back them because it is indeed them that are trying to kill Christianity (and villanize Muslims)-Don't help them... One should ask why...
True Christians and Muslims are great people and are serious potential allies to our Anti-Zionist cause.

Don't get me wrong, organized religion is certainly a problem...

Talmudism and Catholicism, please post about those before posting videos against the Bible! (BTW isn't it worth anything that almost all the bad points in the initial video about the Bible are from the Old Testament?)

Jesus is said to be the light, truth. He was against government and the Pharisees (who dictated what "Judaism" (Talmudism) would be from Christ's time to this day).
If that is accurate, then I'm down with Jesus! Big time...

veritasvincit

Jesus (the one & only head of Christianity) is the way - not religion.  The New Testament provides us with all the truth and laws of God that we require.  Jesus was sent here to give us the truth, the way and the light and to correct any previous inaccuracies.

Jesus did not belong to a church.  A church is a place of worship that resides within us.  

Matthew. 15:8-9

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


Why is it that all the educated Christian denominations cannot agree?  If their leaders cannot even come to an agreement, how do they expect their sheeple followers to agree.  Most confusing..  The sheep follow blindly, not knowing where it is they're going, but hoping that the one at the front does.  


Matthew. 23:4-5; 25-28
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries,(small leather cases holding slips of parchment with selected passages from one law of Moses, worn on foreheads or arms)
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres (grave or tomb), which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.


It is our responsibility to read the New Testament with an open heart - Jesus was sent here to bring us the truth, and the word of God - he gave us all that we need to know in this book.  I'm down with Jesus too!
Matthew 22:  36-40
Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him.  Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the first and great commandment.  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

mgt23

Point one: Old testament written by jews
Point two: I only need one point to refute jesus as divine. If you watched the video1 then you will see that jesus said i should maim myself if i sin. Hmmm I think i will listen to the rest of what jesus said about forgiveness, love thy neighbour and reject that. Jesus was and is not perfect and therefore not divine.
Point three: All of the three abrahamic religions +a few others i imagine want to convert me at the back of their heads. That is undermining trust between homo sapiens and therefore no intelligent person should trust them. We should co-operate because you raise a valid point that non-church based worshippers of these three faiths are indeed anti-zionist. but at the end of the day thier scriptures tell them to convert as their duty-that is zionism of the mind. Correct me if i'm wrong on that.
Point four: I dont need jesus to see the light of being against the government and the pharisees.
Point Five: not one of the posters here has offered a point by point rebuttal of video1
Point Six: I will never advocate someone else to fight zionism for me. I will do that myself thank you and trying to manipulate people into fighting zionism by being liberal with the truth is the wrong way of going about the destruction of the Torah.
Point Seven: again this is just a personal thought.

p.s Talmudic Encyclopedia (source)
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TJC

Of course the Bible contains much which is repulsive. I find it very difficult to equate what Yahweh is reported to have said with anything God or a god might have said. Yahweh asserts himself so much that I find him to be a very weak being indeed. In other words, the people who made up the creation myth which we find in the Bible were just ordinary power-happy individuals who projected their own defective personalities onto the character of Yahweh who of course is just make believe.

     Jesus was considered as being a prophet by the early Jesus-Jews and it was only first in 452 A.D. (of course A.D.!) that Emperor Constantine, after being nagged at by his wife, a Christian, promoted Jesus to being God's son.

     As far as religions go I prefer Japanese Kami-no-Michi or Shintô as it also is known or the local religion here of the Vaner people who worshiped Freja (pronounced Freya). Freja is more a numinous entity than a goddess, much like the "heroes" of Greek literature who went on to become demi-deities.

     Just this week I am practicing a peculiar branch of Hinduism which oddly enough is monotheistic.

     So..., I hope that my response is adequate. Actually I could go on for days about my believing in God who I do not fear. I only celebrate God. My prayers to God are only in worship, not for favors.

mgt23

thankyou tjc that was an interesting post. I respect
QuoteI only celebrate God. My prayers to God are only in worship, not for favors.
nice one

GordZilla

The bible is repulsive!

Check you out! You have a regular hate on for this thing you call 'God' ...did He steel your crackers? You obviously dropped that video here to provoke reaction and cause yet further division ...which you are quite good at it would seem. You forgot something, however, this same God you are attacking is the Islamic God too ... perhaps you'd like to include them to in your rants?  Oh yeah, they're not the people you hate right? You are doing the Talmudic Jews such a huge favour promoting this shit. Like they needed help in that department, but none-the-less once again here comes Steve to further divide and piss on all things held dear to many people. You should be more careful, you know not what you are and you are likely to change your tune yet again in another few years. You have no opinion, it seems, on anything but hate for all other's opinions on everything, is this true or just how you want to portray yourself?

  The video proves the bible is repulsive, so what's that mean? Well for starters what does repulsive mean? "causing repugnance or aversion" (source; dictionary.com). Would this not denote a rather personal reaction? Easy to argue what is repulsive for you may not be for others, mind you in this video the narrator choose to use pointed examples, half taken out of context, half taken from PARABLES to make his case. Great , and what of it? What if the bible says we should kill those who commit adultery, for example. Well first, yes it sounds repulsive to kill anything – for most people, but to God what does it mean? He knows death is not the end, so this 'punishment' to Him may be the equivalent of a mosquito bite to us. In other words what is death to the creator of life? The video does prove, that most Americans don't practice the bible anymore, but good thing at one point they did, see ALL the freedoms written into the constitution were inspired by that book, and as a result the rest of the world, eventually started to feel those very freedoms, all derived from the idea of equality under God.  Your very right to shoot your mouth off and offend all you can is derived from the very being you hate so much. (and for the record those freedoms displenish  at the same rate this belief is removed – odd that is , isn't it? Good job pushing that process forward.)

  Again though, it is a fool's argument with you, your mind is already made up ...until it swings again anyways. So why don't we look to what we know threw science -which is derived from logic and experience- so far on the topic of God, or rather and more importantly our origins? I have, and posted much of what I found here in TiU, most still uncontested, please look it up and do your best.  Evolution is your religion, and even when pointed out to you that it has many flaws as well, you still press forward with your attack on God, very strange, perhaps before removing a sliver from someone else's eye you should remove the plank from your own?

 Who is a real enemy here after all? God? Or perhaps the Talmudic Jew, who believes in no God, but oddly aligns himself quite closely to those that worship Satan. Weird eh? No one ever seems to have a 'hate-on' for Satan as they do God, in fact many believe in him quite willingly before they believe in God. (as if there could be one without the other).  

 Man's misinterpretation of the bible is no fault of the Creator's, in fact He knew it would happen, which is why He commanded Mohammad(pbuh) to convey the word of Allah, the words of the Quran, to be passed down father to son and memorized so it would never be altered from its original form. So, what's that give us? Well some 300 years after Jesus'(pbuh) death the word of God remained unbroken in the Quran to this very day. The Quran also talked about Jesus, born to a virgin, being a great prophet etc, would you like to have a go at our Islamic brothers as well? (insert here; the sound of crickets)

 And your points, again your interpretation of what you've read or may have thought you read means little to someone like me, your ignorance of the topic  shines through from your first point of; "The bible was written by Jews" ...from there I need to read no further, you obviously have no idea.  Was Jesus also a Jew in your mind? I'd wager 'yes' would be your answer to that. You're still missing a lot of information to be launching an attack on the faithful, so why then do you do it? Is it to affirm, maybe with support from other posters, that your hate of God is justified? Are you worried about something, Steve?  Or is it meant simply to further divide us? Rest easy Steve, don't you see how popular your opinion is?  You must be right!!... no worries.

 Please, because you do it well, attack the real enemy and stop trying to make enemies of those who are currently on your side of this argument. If you argue that wasn't your intention, then you are clearly naive to think a post with the title; "The bible is repulsive!" would not get this kind of re-action. I doubt you're this naive so I'm left to guess at which motive really provoked you to post this here? Hopefully just hatred of God, and nothing worse ...like, perhaps, a hatred of humble unity against a common and REAL enemy.

Ognir

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Ognir

I'd just like to add:

This is not a religious forum
But
This is not a religious negative site

Get rid of the bankers
and let's talk about what we like freely
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

mgt23

hi there gord;
point one: old testament was written by judaic jews.
point two: new testament was so heavily edited in 425ad that i put it to you that it lacks corroborating evidence outside of Josephus who was shown to be a fraud. From what i can remember(i'll have to dig it up) they were three other documented historical references which make reference to a "christ" or "annointed one"-no jesus of nazarene.
can i recommend
http://www.youtube.com/user/malakhhatzadik
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 861487EBFD
just throwing some ideas out there. note he is a christian and how i research christianity as well as muslims see
The Arrivals pt.27 (Why Satanism is Practiced by Our Leaders)
http://wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=30
The Arrivals pt28 (Why Satanism is Practiced By Our Leaders)
http://wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=31
I incidentally am on no ones side. I just want to wage a personal action against Zionists of all type that I think will exterminate me, you and the rest of the species. In this respect, in my believe the individual is supreme.
point three: I despair sometimes when evolution, is hijacked by all 4 of the abrahamic religions (yes 4 I am against luciferianism as well, i dont want to be manipulated by a postulated devil either) I am pro homo sapien.
point five: You are using the word hate. I am not. I wish to deny ignorance period.
point six: Actually I believe in trancedental evolution, netherless some interesting reading
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/04 ... ist-e.html
point seven: children hold santa dear and you see the same taboo. Evolution is not a religion, it is a fact. Again look at any language, faith, culture and how they replicate. Hell with each new post in TiU, TiU is evolving etc etc I recommend Susan Blackmore's "The meme machine"
point eight: so because you say i dont believe in god i am a jew? Good logic.
QuoteWho is a real enemy here after all? God? Or perhaps the Talmudic Jew, who believes in no God, but oddly aligns himself quite closely to those that worship Satan. Weird eh? No one ever seems to have a 'hate-on' for Satan as they do God, in fact many believe in him quite willingly before they believe in God. (as if there could be one without the other).
point nine:
QuoteRest easy Steve, don't you see how popular your opinion is? You must be right!!... no worries.
I dont offer my views on the basis of being popular. I speak my mind and i'm assuming i have the right to do this in a Personal thoughts section. I have at no point in this thread have flamed anyone personally and have targeted my criticism at people who take the bible literally. My research is strictly in the vein of Kurt Saxon's claim that each person should take responsibility for their own survival...i dont agree with everything kurt says but it is stimulating.
http://www.kurtsaxon.com/tbm_0000.htm
http://www.kurtsaxon.com/
QuoteYour only hope lies in the knowledge of our past, in preparing to save yourself and your loved ones. Only the self-sufficiency of our ancestors will help you to create a life-support system and also enable you to defend your own against all comers.
lastly maybe you should calm down, for right now i'm calm as a cucumber. I dont hate anyone, not even zionists. I just want to win against them. Part of that is being able to discuss difficult issues like this in a civilized manner. The use of the word repulsive indicates my rebellion against being told i have to kill kill drunken teenagers, enslave others, be sexist, kill those who work on the sabbath and maim myself if i brake "your" rules. It is relevant because i wish to challenge this viewpoint within the community(though not change it, a subtle distinction) As I believe many of you will brake ranks when the holocaust comes......and it is coming.

QuoteThe only inalienable right is to die for ones beliefs. Those who choose beliefs over knowledge, as well as those who don't know the difference, will not survive the collapse. In most cases, they will have done the only good thing they have ever done, which is to take their defective genes out of our species.

anyone wishing to further the debate i am always at hand. pm me

Shiksa Rage

This all strikes me as a gospel according to Dan Brown

mgt23

can someone show me a historical sourced ref i can check out that quotes a "jesus of nazerene" outside of Josephus. if your saying that i worship the species, then yes i suppose i do. i would better desribe it as my best guess it that evolution fits the bill as far as evidence and logic go. its better than a zionist position of worshipping a sub-section. or a luciferian zionist in worshipping just one member of the species(the last survivor) or anyone who makes a claim they are god/spoke to god/can make factual claims about god and so on. i value every member of the human race.

Shiksa Rage

You say you're a teacher? Frankly Your're the best advertisement for home schooling I've ever come across. In my opinion, Darwin was funded by the same sources as Marx and Freud; ie Rothschild and co.

mgt23

Thats an appallingly uninformative and nonconstructive  post. Sorry not rising to the bait. Your entitled to your opinion, but when you state none of your own premises and make statements like that. That is a very simple minded post. Lets see your premises then of your own beliefs so I can examine them, please.

GordZilla

Ok here we go again, Steve  you argue evolution is true cause you see it? What you described above is called 'human advancement' but what we are arguing was 'physical evolution' evolution of species, like the kind Darwin purposes. To which I have already countered and you promptly ignored, as it might just shatter your belief in your fairy tale. Now you accuse us of believing in fairy tales, while you yourself hold steadfast to a belief in a 'theory' I.e. fairy tale. There is ABSOLUTLY no factual evidence for physical evolution to this day, not one bit.... Find me it if you know it. (And again, human advancement, advancement within our forum, our movement, is NOT evolution. It's advancement – stick to the point please)

 Again remove the plank from your own eye before trying to remove a sliver from other's. Evolution still remains a theory, why? Because, like faith, there is no factual evidence. However at least with faith, the good book anyways, we can see exactly what's to come by words written more than 1500 years ago. Sorry but the Jew, the Talmudic Jew, as we see him today doesn't fly with the evolution theory, not one bit. If you believe in evolution, for instance, how can the Jew be a race? (p.s. 'racism' itself is a made up word, by them, and although there may be a few people who hate others simply based on race you find their numbers are few, most people you will meet in your own experience will not identify themselves as racist. Most people, nearly all people, see others as one of two things; a good person or an asshole – try it ask around, find me this outright 'racist' – it's another illusion of theirs that you completely fell for, you seem good at falling for their shit. )

No I will post again a link, which you will ignore, but for others who's minds are still open, check this out;

http://evolutionisfalse.blogspot.com/20 ... ation.html


You wont watch, Steve, I already know this. Too bad, you could actually learn something off that site.
But you seem to respect George Gordon, so spend some time on his site. He will also destroy your vain little belief system.
Now as for Jesus, again he is NOT a Jew. Nor was the bible written by Jews ...you keep throwing this out there like it's fact but have utterly no proof of it. What agenda are you trying to serve by all this anyways Steve? Jesus was from Galilee, The term 'Jew' didn't exist in his time, 'Judean' did and the Romans satirically wrote 'King of the Judeans'' on his cross ...not 'Jews'.

You shouldn't debate on this issue when you hardly even look at the other side of the debate, as you sound like an empty can rattling away.  Do you know everything? I would assume you would answer that with a resounding "no". Well if you don't know everything then could it be what I'm showing you here could be part of what you don't know?

Spend some time on George's site and the link I provided above before you come back with more of your propaganda. Seriously what do you want to accomplish here? All it's doing is dividing more people. God has nothing to do with our personal struggle against these people, so your attack on Him is also in vain. Why do you persist? Pride? Self-assurance?

P.s. As for your death ray theory and how they plan to destroy every last one of us, again this shows your lack of understanding of the Talmudic Jew. I agree they do plan to substantially reduce our numbers, but they cannot do for themselves, they are a parasite and they will always require a host. They will always need a few of us around to do the dirty work, manual labor, something they are extremely incompetent at, as shown in the bible and by observation (experience) as seen today. So don't worry so much with your death ray theory either, they will let us kill each other over food, shelter etc. before they cull in the rest to forever remain slaves to them. That is the plan, and you would know this if you look at BOTH sides of this story.



P.S.S. "so because you say i dont believe in god i am a jew? Good logic." I never said that.  read it again.

mgt23

hi gord;
            am going through your evidence as we speak. have to go to g20 in about 45 mins. will give a full reply soon when i get back end of tommorrow. off the top of my head disagree with they "need us" aspect, they've thought of that and goyiem will be killed to be replaced with servantile bladerunner clones to be disposed of when everything is automated(this is the endgame of zionism). i will provide you with some factual evidence with fruit flies in a bit.
anyway sending love, just wanna get back in one piece-talk then.

GordZilla

Quote from: "mgt23"hi gord;
            am going through your evidence as we speak. have to go to g20 in about 45 mins. will give a full reply soon when i get back end of tommorrow. off the top of my head disagree with they "need us" aspect, they've thought of that and goyiem will be killed to be replaced with servantile bladerunner clones to be disposed of when everything is automated(this is the endgame of zionism). i will provide you with some factual evidence with fruit flies in a bit.
anyway sending love, just wanna get back in one piece-talk then.


 No worries Steve, you are unlikely to convince me as I am you. My real only beef is the dismissal of the bible, as is the subject of this post. It is an unnecessary avenue to travel within our forum, our movement. In fact when talking about Talmudic Jews, Israel etc I think it is incredibility foolish to ignore the source of these words when we are trying to get down to the 'truth' of what they are and are about.  But alas I know this forum will not allow that debate to go too far, so I only ask is you respect that as well and stop posting divisive subject matter that slanders this book in a forum where we cannot debate the issue anyways. It also, again, serves no real purpose. I agree 'churchies' are a problem, zio-christianity for instance, but not all of us are of that ilk. Some of us can prove to be your best allies in this fight. This is my problem with your post, it turns off potential allies and for the sake of accomplishing what? The winner of a pissing contest?

 Understand that, and we will have no problem getting along. I will not try to force upon you that 'evolution is repulsive' if you do not try to force upon me the bible is. And bear in mind the bible, the old testament - torah if you like is also a big part of what the Quran is based upon, so the alienation is more wide spread then you might first believe when you posted this thread's subject matter.

P.S. I will concede the 'need us' bit of the argument, if indeed they have an alternative to human labor then they wouldn't need us. I have seen no proof of such, sure there are robots but they are not yet a replacement for humans as a whole. They still require humans to build them and program them, frankly they are not smart at all, merely tools that still require human workers to intervene. However I will take your word on it, that's fine maybe the death ray is in the cards, but as stated above that's not the real issue with my argument, the major issue is why attack the bible in a movement like ours? For that I can hardly see the point, maybe on a John Hagee's site this might be fun to explore, but the people here that believe in God are highly unlikely to be religious as no church I'm aware of is promoting the truth about His word and especially how it applies to our problems of today. The religious are brainwashed, but be careful as not all the faithful are.

-   Gord

P.S.S. Good luck today, God's speed !  :D

targa2

It is a flawed argument to say that, because certain historians of the biblical era didn't report on something, that it is not a factual event.

For example, if we were to fast forward 2000 years into the future we would see,( looking back at today ) that the New York times never told us about the 20 plus million deaths cause buy the Bolsheviks. And since the New York Times was considered such a reliable reporter of facts in its day, the Bolshevik Revolution these conspiracy nuts talked about must be a lie.

Has it never occurred to anyone that main stream writers of biblical days suffered from the same myopia and state issued peer pressure to report what was politically correct as we see in todays writers?  Why would it be any different then?  Isn't it possible that state sanctioned writers of biblical days were under pressure to avoid giving too much attention to politically incorrect figures such as Christ and the apostles?  Maybe Jesus Christ and his followers were just like us..... outcast screwballs in the eyes of the State, marginalized to the remote corners of social awareness.

I suggest people look into Ivan Panin for a scientific view of the authenticity of scripture.  His work convinced me that there is something more to scripture than I had ever thought.


Free Truth

Lets get back to gentile Talmud study now...

mgt23

hi people;
              ok try not to misunderstand me, i dont want a pissing contest. what i want is interesting material on the subject that challenges the status quo. Truth is a dynamic and changing thing. The bible isn't and i believe was fabricated by jewish satanist zionists + minor contribution/collaboration of assorted zionists. check this out fantastic material - tho obviously i like the criticism of judaism in parts 1+2 not sure if he is black poper or not but stuff on the jewish satanism is wild

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXfdwBX ... B6&index=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_di2jbf ... B6&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P8d-3SY ... B6&index=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PKtj7l ... B6&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVCJkiHy ... B6&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-z3C8V7 ... B6&index=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuydXgQ2 ... B6&index=7

point two: starting a thread "evolution is repulsive" is a fantastic idea, but i think that might be pushing mod limits
point three:
QuoteIt is a flawed argument to say that, because certain historians of the biblical era didn't report on something, that it is not a factual event.
whilst true.....what am i supposed to do go back in time and have a cup of tea with jesus and take a DNA sample?...my options are limited. Hence if someone could show me that a "jesus of nazerne" existed outside of Josephus i would appreciate it.

point four: people are misunderstanding evolution take this
http://wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=34
1)i'm against mysticism
2)saying that darwin was tutored by satan is mysticism. even if darwin was a satanist, he still wrote it if delusional.
3)I dont want to blind, convince or convert. just stimulate.
4)evolution dictates the worship of the species not the individual.
5)I dont believe in aliens/paraphysical enties. no evidence.

finally luciferians do want to corrupt evolution to the worship of the self as the clip says, whereas the truth of evolution is the worship of the species. this has vast implications as to how to win against zionism in a mindwar. hence i think this thread is extremely relevent imo.

hope my piss smells as good as yours.