Gordon Duff Dodges Nazi-Holocaust Interview

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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

/tab now you're just spamming. We've already seen this shit before and it's mostly garbage. I'm starting to suspect you are thirdeyewise. Are you? Be honest

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JEWISH FINANCING OF THE NAZI PARTY

In the early 1920's and early 1930's, large amounts of money were given to the Nazi party from Jewish banks.

    *      The Bank House Mendleson & Company in Amsterdam made two transfers. One for 10 million USD and one for 15 million USD.

    *      Kuhn Loeb & Company in New York (later taken over by Jacob Schiff)

    *      J P Morgan & Company in New York

    *      Samuel & Samuel of London

    *     Royal Dutch Shell sent 10 million Guilders as late as 1937.

Source please.


Quote from: "/tab"JEWISH-NAZI COOPERATION

Rudolf Rezso Kasztner (1906–1957)

In the early days of Hitler's government, an arrangement had been worked out between Nazis and Zionists to transfer Jews to Palestine in exchange for payment to the German Government. Only a small number of Jews were allowed to escape. Of the 750,000 Jews in Hungary, 550,000 were sent to their deaths in German extermination camps.

So your source is alleging the German camps were extermination centers not labor camps as has been proven. You use sources that support the official holohoax story.  :clap:

Quote from: "/tab"The story of Rudolf Kasztner and his collaboration with the Nazi's was reported in a book called "Perfidy" by an American born Jew named Ben Hecht (1894-1964).  Ben was a staunch supporter of a Jewish state in Palestine at first but in the end he became a strong anti-Zionist. His book is a well-documented expose of the Zionist movement and how the Zionist Leadership worked with the Nazis in the annihilation of their fellow Jews to create such a hostile climate in Europe that Jews had no other option but to immigrate to Palestine.

Paul Wallenberg was the Swedish ambassador to Hungary. He arrived shortly after 438,000 Jews were deported from Hungary to their deaths in German extermination camps. He issued Swedish passports to approximately 35,000 Jews and made Adolf Eichmann furious. As the Germans would march Jews in what was known as death marches, Wallenburg and his staff would go to train stations and hand out passports to rescue the Jews from being taken.

More holohoax BS.

Quote from: "/tab"In 1964 a book by Dietrich Bronder (German Jew) was published in Germany called, "Before Hitler came." The book tried to come to grips with why the German Jews turned on their own people and caused so much destruction of innocent people. The answer given in the book states that the driving force behind the Jewish Nazis, was the old dream to have a Messiah who could establish a world rule with the Jews in power. The same ideology as can be seen in John 6:14-15.

The most prominent Gentile and Jewish-Nazi leaders were:

    *      Adolf Hitler: half Jew

    *      Rudolf Hess: Reich Minister; half Jew

    *      Hermann Goring: Head of German Luftwaffe

    *     Gregor and Otto Strasser: brothers and leaders in Nazi party

    *     Joseph Goebbels: Propaganda Minister; Jewish

    *     Alfred Rosenberg: Editor of the official Nazi paper "Volkisher Beobachter;" Reich Minister for Eastern occupied territories; Jewish

    *     Hans Frank: legal council of the Nazi party; Jewish

    *     Heinrich Himmler: Head of Gestapo; commander of the SS; homosexual

    *     Joachim von Ribbenstrop: Foreign Minister

    *     Reinhard Heydrich: Security chief and Second in command of SS; later became the Governor of Bohemia and Moravia; homosexual; Jewish

    *     Admiral Wilhelm Canaris: Chief of German Intelligence; Jewish

    *     Abram Goldberg a.k.a. Julius Streicher: Editor of the weekly Nazi paper "Der Sturmer;" homosexual; Jewish

    *     Adolf Eichman: SS Officer; prosecutor; Jewish

    *     Robert Ley: Ministry of Labor; organized the slave labor camps

    *     Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski: SS General

    *     Odilo Globocnik: SS General

    *     Helmut Schmidt: officer in Luftwaffe

Documents supporting the "exceptions" that Hitler made for German Jews serving in the Nazi party numbered around 1,200. There were 2 Field Marshall's, 10 Generals, 14 Colonels, 30 Majors and thousands of lower ranking officers and non-commanding officers who received these exceptions.

Utter  :^) BS from the Jew Detrich Bronder. Total 100% bonafide kosher BS with no evidence to back it up whatsoever. This is simply the word of Detrich Bronder, a Jew and liar. I've had already shown this earlier in the thread. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13462&start=90#p52950

Quote from: "/tab"SUMMARY

From a rational and economical point of view, it doesn't make sense that the Nazi leaders initiated the total destruction of German Jews and other Jews in Western Europe by their own accord.

Quote from: "/tab"IS GOD THE FOUNDER OF MODERN ISRAEL?

Why Hitler and his Jewish followers decided to destroy the Jews in Europe is a mystery that won't be fully known until the Great White Throne Judgment.

So your source for all this info is the Jew Detrich Bronder, the Jew Edwin Black, the Jew Ben Hecht, etc. Are we starting to see a patern here? And all your sources support the Holohoax official story and are sure to mix it in there with the rest of the crypto-Jew Nazis BS. Classic disinformation.

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Quote/tab now you're just spamming. We've already seen this shit before and it's mostly garbage. I'm starting to suspect you are thirdeyewise. Are you? Be honest

No, I have only two eyes, the name is paranoia if you gonna keep with the delusional agenda.

QuoteAre we supposed to care what "normal asleep people" think of us?

Not a childish "think of us", I am very concern about what "normal asleep people" THINK, because they are so brainwashed,  if they are looking for some answer after been tire of "traditional media propaganda" and they come to the TiU forum to get some truth, "Sieg Heil" is not gonna help.

QuoteDo I care if some "normal asleep people" call me crazy if I say Israel did 9/11? According to you I should shy away from saying Israel did 9/11 becuz "normal asleep people" would think badly of me.

No, I am not saying that, do you think you are the first to say "Israel did 911" ? Down from your horse buddie, are you getting some  Diva mods now?
So, I spell it to you: Israel and their worms at the US did 9/11. I am crazy ? Crazy is to believe that 19 muslims with box cutters did it.

QuoteWhy don't you just go and join those "normal asleep people"? I always look for historical truth in every subject, I don't give a damn what stigma the "normal sheeple" have put on it.

I am sorry to tell you but you sound exactly like a ZioN NaZi to me.

QuoteI'm sorry, what's a "ZioN NaZi"?

A ZioN NaZi is a (Neo)NaZi  who has all the ZioN ingredients in their theoretical mental soup: They think exactly like Supremacist Jews, they dream of a thousand years reich where White People are the "Master Race", that their Race is Better than the rest of humanity, That the White People are the Choosen people,  that the rest of human beings are sub-races, don't you know i e that the people of the rich continent of Africa are in the poor condition they are in great part because the ZioN elite control of the territory and the puppets in power ?  And so Asia, South America, Central America, North America, yes, you name it, ubiquitous ZioN dominance.

QuoteWe're not putting a stigma on this forum, we didn't even bring up this subject. CSR and I simply responded to anti-White Hitler-bashing fanatics with facts and reason and called into question their conspiracy theories, so then you call us white supremacist.

Don't give that bull, you know very well that the most of the Arian Nations, Neo Nazis and similar movements in the world today are financed by the Jews Bankers Elite and Jewish Intelligence, do you know why?  Answer please

QuoteHow is that not just like the ADL does? If you defend any White leader whom the Jews have voraciously demonized you're auto labelled "white supremacist" (even by supposedly Jew-wise people, hmmm :think: ). You're really not getting outside the mainstream Jewish concept of the Nazis "as satan incarnate" when you demonize them and anyone who tells the truth about that period as "white supremacist".

don't play the victim here, sorry to tell you but all your ADL / crypto / etc accusations sounds a lot like a agent provocateur's Modus operandi, always calling names to all the users posting replies arguing against your Supremacists posts, a lot of  creepy name callings going on all the time.

 
QuoteYou've made more posts to "turn people off" than me or CSR combined.

Are you implying here that CSR and you made "turn people off" posts, are you unconsciously admitting that in your name?

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Well, the problem is that a lot of Jewish people think that the official version of the Holocaust is true, but some of those are beggining to investigate the issues and discovering the flaws.

The problem is that if someone give you the sources of X, you say Douglas Reed was a fatgot, if someone else speak of Eustace Mullins then you say baloney, If i say "Benjamin Freedman" you say "you source is a Jew" if  I say the Greek Bishop says "Hitler was Zionist and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire" then you say it is a piece of shit, then if I post the article (yes with many errors but those jewish writters are of course indoctrinated and Believe the official version) from jewish investigators then I grow a third eye  :crazy:





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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "/tab"Not a childish "think of us", I am very concern about what "normal asleep people" THINK, because they are so brainwashed,  if they are looking for some answer after been tire of "traditional media propaganda" and they come to the TiU forum to get some truth, "Sieg Heil" is not gonna help.

Show me where you see "Seig Heil"? Unlike you and the other "Nazis were Jews" fanatics, me and CSR haven't been spamming the forum with our views about Hitler and the Nazis.But when I see people promoting what I think is BS I point it out, and when I see people telling historical lies I point it out. If these sheeple come to TIU and see "Nazis were Jews" everywhere it's not gonna help either, champ.  ;)

Quote from: "/tab"No, I am not saying that, do you think you are the first to say "Israel did 911" ? Down from your horse buddie, are you getting some  Diva mods now?

I wasn't the first to say it, but I certainly said it before you did, and did way more than you to convert people to that view.

Quote from: "/tab"I am sorry to tell you but you sound exactly like a ZioN NaZi to me.

Hate to break it to ya but you sound like a crazy person.

Quote from: "/tab"A ZioN NaZi is a (Neo)NaZi  who has all the ZioN ingredients in their theoretical mental soup: They think exactly like Supremacist Jews, they dream of a thousand years reich where White People are the "Master Race", that their Race is Better than the rest of humanity, That the White People are the Choosen people,  that the rest of human beings are sub-races,

 <lol> wow you don't actually believe that do you? This is the caricatured Jewish version of the Nazis (i.e. total garbage). If all that were true and Hitler really did think all other races were sub-human than explain this..

[youtube:em9zsa96]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ_0DbEK2_w[/youtube]em9zsa96]

And the alliance with the Japanese whom Hitler spoke highly of, and his alliance with the Arab world? You are spouting ignorance man.

Quote from: "/tab"don't you know i e that the people of the rich continent of Africa are in the poor condition they are in great part because the ZioN elite control of the territory and the puppets in power ?  And so Asia, South America, Central America, North America, yes, you name it, ubiquitous ZioN dominance.

"ZioN elite" is your codeword for "white people" right? Yeah, I figured. I'm not even sure if you're more against Jews or White people. You're probably more pro-Jew than pro-White so you use the word "Zion" alot, instead of "Jew". You can blame white "colonialism" for all of Africa's troubles but that argument just doesn't hold water. Take the example of Haiti. Under French rule it was prospering and was one of the most beautiful and fertile countries in the caribees. But when the Blacks took it over and slaughtered the White Frenchmen everything quickly reverted back to squalor, indolence and corruption. The once prosperous country was dismantled and continues to be an absolute slum. The blacks inherited a made country and couldn't make anything of it. That's not "whitey's" fault it is their own.

[youtube:em9zsa96]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLOoASAPDg[/youtube]em9zsa96]

Quote from: "/tab"Don't give that bull, you know very well that the most of the Arian Nations, Neo Nazis and similar movements in the world today are financed by the Jews Bankers Elite and Jewish Intelligence, do you know why?  Answer please

Modern day skinheads and neo-nazis are a disgrace to the real National Socialists from Germany. As far as Jews funding these groups, I'd like to see proof. I'm sure they've been infiltrated by SPLC/ADL agents to sabotage them, or make them out out be stupid and get them to say stupid stuff like the KKK does. But I wonder why so-called "White supremacists" and "White seperatists" are the most persecuted people in the west -- the victims of constant FBI stings and set-ups, ADL/SPLC sabotage and kangaroo courts. Just look what happened to Edgar J. Steele http://www.takeourworldback.com/steeleframeup.htm

Obviously jews fear organized White men and seek to destroy any inkling of racial solidarity between whites, but at the same time support Jewish ethnocentrism and even for other groups to be. Jews are known to back La Raza, NAACP and other Hispanic and Black supremacist organizations. They've consistently used other races against whites for centuries. They backed the Berber invasion and takeover of Spain, they opened the floodgates on Egypt way back when, and now they've unleashed the Muslims on Europe and Hispanics on America with the multi-cult agenda, which you probably support.

Quote from: "/tab"a lot of  creepy name callings going on all the time.

Riiight, like your "Zion Nazi" label which you've called me several times. SO it's okay of you to call names but how dare I respond ..  :lol:

Quote from: "/tab"Are you implying here that CSR and you made "turn people off" posts, are you unconsciously admitting that in your name?

Nope, I'm implying that whichever posts of mine and CSR's you are claiming might turn people off, you've made a hundred times more posts that have the potential to turn people off.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "/tab"The problem is that if someone give you the sources of X, you say Douglas Reed was a fatgot, if someone else speak of Eustace Mullins then you say baloney, If i say "Benjamin Freedman" you say "you source is a Jew" if  I say the Greek Bishop says "Hitler was Zionist and was financed from the renowned Rothschild family with the sole purpose of convincing the Jews to leave the shores of Europe and go to Israel to establish the new Empire" then you say it is a piece of shit, then if I post the article (yes with many errors but those jewish writters are of course indoctrinated and Believe the official version) from jewish investigators then I grow a third eye

No, the problem is that all these other people got their info from the same holohoax supporting Jews you were quoting in the previous post. Detrich Bronder, Edwin Black and Ben Hecht are the originators of this theory... everyone else is just parroting what those three Jews have written. As has been shown Reed was anti-Hitler since the 30s and wrote a book promoting a militant attitude towards Hitler and Germany in 1938, thus aiding WW2's fruition. He's entirely discredited. I could point out some prominent anti-Zionist researchers who support my and CSR's view. Michael Collins Piper for example. Counting the people who support your view is a childish tactic. How many people support the view that 19 muslims did 9/11? Tens of millions, you could point out all the so-called "experts" and "respected" academics, journalists, etc, who support that view. does that mean it's correct? Of course not. Just more strawgrabbing.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Keep in mind /tab...

Sentenced at the Nürnberg trials (from many sources):

QuoteWalther Funk, and Erich Raeder. Twelve of the defendants were sentenced to death by hanging. Ten of them—Hans Frank, Wilhelm Frick, Julius Streicher, Alfred Rosenberg, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Joachim von Ribbentrop, Fritz Sauckel, Alfred Jodl, Wilhelm Keitel, and Arthur Seyss-Inquart—were hanged on October 16, 1946. Martin Bormann was tried and condemned to death in absentia

Now, why did reporters never say these men were Jews before WWII and after WWII ?  Why didn't these Nazis say they were Jews themselves to presumably save their lives?  Was it all part of the "Nazis-were-Jews" conspiracy for Israel?  

I think you can find most of them had birth and bapitism records in a Catholic or Protestant church.


BTW, like most normal Western men I'd take Keira out...a bit thin..yes...her photo came up...and I just thought "a pretty White woman's face"...  
but you can have your Jewish-Fantasy "Ape" if you must....just keep it away from this thread. Your posts with that one reminded me a lot of Negentropic who posted a lot of Jew-Nazi Fantasy "nonsense" crap like that...  TIU is better than that Jew Sh*t but it just shows the mentality of the Jews about Hitler and the Germans basically kicking their asses out of Europe.    But unfortunately, the Jewish sucking of the European-American people via SCAMS hasn't stopped. The Victorious Allies never cut off the money-grubbing Jew parasites.   --CSR


A good read for you /tab and other "Hitler was Jew" true believers:

QuoteMoreover, it is not that the literary establishment simply neglects to repudiate this trashier output. In fact, it has actively promoted it. The books in question are published by major houses, and get conventional review and promotional attention. Such a state of affairs would never exist in regard to sensationalized titles critical of Israeli Zionism, for example. Clearly, then, a Revisionist laying to rest of this material is long overdue; the present book, despite its lacks, is a start.

Goodrick-Clarke traces the origin of the Lovecraftian school of Third Reich historiography to the self-proclaimed German rocket engineer, Willy Ley, who emigrated here in 1935 and spent the ensuing years working on Hollywood science fiction films. In 1947, Ley wrote an article for a "pulp" fantasy magazine ridiculing pseudoscience in Germany, which he claimed included a Berlin sect attempting to conjure up the mysterious vril force described by British novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton in his The Coming Race (1871), supposedly conveying to its adepts total power over the world.

This was sufficient to spark off, in 1960, the first and probably most enduring of the genre, The Morning of the Magicians by French journalists Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier. A vast farrago of misquotations, sheer fabrications and exclamation points, this opus touched base on the major points that were to become standard for the type:

    * The rise and early success of National Socialism were due, not to sober choice by the German electorate, followed by hard work of a capable people, but to supernatural forces;
    * The forces are described as either discarnate, like Bulwer's vril , or as the doings of godlike "ascended masters" in some remote and exotic location, usually Tibet;
    * It is possible to get into contact with this power, identified by Pauwels and Bergier as "the Master of the World or the King of Fear," and as it were plug in on the current for one's own ends in the mundane world;
    * Such liaison was a top-priority project of the German government, despite its other distractions;
    * The government's channel was the Thule Society, which in turn was the creature of the two evil geniuses, the playwright and early Hitler friend, Dietrich Eckart, and a professor of geopolitics at the University of Munich, Dr. Karl Haushofer. They used the Thule Society to control the state through Hitler, who is invariably described in the canon as a semi-hysterical "mediumistic" personality.

Later savants, such as Dietrich Bronder in his Before Hitler Came (1964), with its title rather crassly lifted from Sebottendorf's 1933 memoir, introduced the Ariosophical dimension of List and Lanz, including the pair in the Thule clique, along with Hitler, Mussolini, Göring and a who's who of Axis luminaries. With this, the menu was complete and numerous others could begin rehashing it, most notably Michel-Jean Angebert, The Occult and the Third Reich (1971); Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear of Destiny (1972), and J.H. Brennan, Occult Reich (1974).

Placing his magnifying glass on the "MOM" genre, Goodrick-Clarke reports as follows:

    * There was no Vril Society or "Luminous Lodge," as the fabulists call it, although there was a "Lumenclub" in Vienna for some years after 1932, acting as a front for the banned National Socialist Party;
    * Prof. Haushofer did endorse a thrust to the east, into Soviet territory, but strictly for obvious geopolitical reasons; his alleged goal of reaching the ascended masters in the Orient is "entirely false;" according to Goodrick-Clarke;
    * Dietrich Eckart (who died in 1923), along with the young Alfred Rosenberg, attended a few early Thule meetings as guests but there is no evidence linking other Party leaders, or List, Lanz or Haushofer, with the group;
    * The Thule Society was disbanded around 1925 because of declining membership and was never reorganized.

We certainly owe something to Goodrick-Clarke for so expertly skewering this pernicious nonsense, which has even tripped up major-league historians like Joachim Fest, although he does not follow through on the truly important question. The inimitable Holocaust, spotlighted by all these "schlock" authors as the result of the national demonic possession, still sits enshrined in its increasingly shopworn hideousness, even here.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p121_Grimstad.html

The J-Tribers in D.C. 1945 must have loved this one:
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

CrackSmokeRepublican

QuoteShow me where you see "Seig Heil"? Unlike you and the other "Nazis were Jews" fanatics, me and CSR haven't been spamming the forum with our views about Hitler and the Nazis.But when I see people promoting what I think is BS I point it out, and when I see people telling historical lies I point it out. If these sheeple come to TIU and see "Nazis were Jews" everywhere it's not gonna help either, champ.

Agreed.  :D:D
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

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QuoteShow me where you see "Seig Heil"? Unlike you and the other "Nazis were Jews" fanatics, me and CSR haven't been spamming the forum with our views about Hitler and the Nazis.But when I see people promoting what I think is BS I point it out, and when I see people telling historical lies I point it out. If these sheeple come to TIU and see "Nazis were Jews" everywhere it's not gonna help either, champ. ;)

When you apologies for Hitler then in the real world of real people's perception they automaticallygonna associate it with "Seig Heil" because it was the Fascist salute to the fuhrer Adolf Hitler. Oh yes, you don't mind what those you call sheeple think, i almost forget of that :roll:

"Nazis were financed by Jews"

I did explain it already very well in my Herzl post above, you can't argue against it, can you? You don't dare speak of that post because it is GAME OVER FOR YOU IN THE WORLD OF DEBATES and because it makes 100 % sense when thinking rationaly about it.


Quote/tab wrote:No, I am not saying that, do you think you are the first to say "Israel did 911" ? Down from your horse buddie, are you getting some Diva mods now?
MSMD wrote: I wasn't the first to say it, but I certainly said it before you did, and did way more than you to convert people to that view.

I knew it, delusional Diva wannabe that what you are, soon are you gonna say that you invented the Internet  :lol:

 
Quote/tab wrote:A ZioN NaZi is a (Neo)NaZi who has all the ZioN ingredients in their theoretical mental soup: They think exactly like Supremacist Jews, they dream of a thousand years reich where White People are the "Master Race", that their Race is Better than the rest of humanity, That the White People are the Choosen people, that the rest of human beings are sub-races,
MSMD wrote: wow you don't actually believe that do you? This is the caricatured Jewish version of the Nazis (i.e. total garbage). If all that were true and Hitler really did think all other races were sub-human than explain this..

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QuoteAnd the alliance with the Japanese whom Hitler spoke highly of,

 :lol:  You ignorant little monkey, don't you know of House of Schiff/Rothschild financing Japan first against Russia/The Tzar and then bringing them into the Fascistic circle preparing WWII . . . You have a lot to read and learn buddie, you lacking in knowledge about this issues seems to be huge!


Quoteand his alliance with the Arab world? You are spouting ignorance man.

Oh yeah, and his alliance with England through Chamberlain or with the Jew bolsheviks through Stalin, now it begins to be so awkward, it's almost sad your bias on this. . .

 
Quote/tab wrote:don't you know i e that the people of the rich continent of Africa are in the poor condition they are in great part because the ZioN elite control of the territory and the puppets in power ? And so Asia, South America, Central America, North America, yes, you name it, ubiquitous ZioN dominance.

 ubiquitous ZioN Jewish Elite dominance. It 's that clear enough ?

Quote"ZioN elite" is your codeword for "white people" right? Yeah, I figured. I'm not even sure if you're more against Jews or White people.

 :lol:  With ZioN I mainly mean Jews for Israel and Jewish Supremacy


QuoteYou're probably more pro-Jew than pro-White so you use the word "Zion" alot, instead of "Jew".

 :roll:  Here we go again


QuoteYou can blame white "colonialism" for all of Africa's troubles but that argument just doesn't hold water.

Are you crazy, Rothschild, Oppenheimer, De Beers and on and on with the Jewish Houses

See and learn

Video - The Diamond Empire: Oppenheimer family's cartel, Artificial scarcity (1994)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 299366197#

Read and learn (yes, your favority: wikipedia   :lol: )

De Beers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers


QuoteTake the example of Haiti. Under French rule it was prospering and was one of the most beautiful and fertile countries in the caribees.

The whole Caribbean was a jewish plantage from the very first time after/under Columbus. "it was prospering"  :lol:  All the black were slaves to the jewish Owners, those french were mostly Crypto jews, you are embarrassing yourself so much, stop. prospering my ass


QuoteBut when the Blacks took it over and slaughtered the White Frenchmen everything quickly reverted back to squalor, indolence and corruption.

IT was the FIRST revolution in American soil, even before the American revolution, then after, the boicot came, what do you spect other than chaos?
QuoteThe once prosperous country was dismantled and continues to be an absolute slum. The blacks inherited a made country and couldn't make anything of it. That's not "whitey's" fault it is their own.

Propaganda, you are boring now  :yawn:  Don't you see the Dictator one after the other? Are you blind Who put those dictator in place?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLOoASAPDg

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    Don't give that bull, you know very well that the most of the Arian Nations, Neo Nazis and similar movements in the world today are financed by the Jews Bankers Elite and Jewish Intelligence, do you know why? Answer please

QuoteModern day skinheads and neo-nazis are a disgrace to the real National Socialists from Germany. As far as Jews funding these groups, I'd like to see proof. I'm sure they've been infiltrated by SPLC/ADL agents to sabotage them, or make them out out be stupid and get them to say stupid stuff like the KKK does. But I wonder why so-called "White supremacists" and "White seperatists" are the most persecuted people in the west -- the victims of constant FBI stings and set-ups, ADL/SPLC sabotage and kangaroo courts. Just look what happened to Edgar J. Steele http://www.takeourworldback.com/steeleframeup.htm
Obviously jews fear organized White men and seek to destroy any inkling of racial solidarity between whites, but at the same time support Jewish ethnocentrism and even for other groups to be. Jews are known to back La Raza, NAACP and other Hispanic and Black supremacist organizations. They've consistently used other races against whites for centuries. They backed the Berber invasion and takeover of Spain, they opened the floodgates on Egypt way back when,

Agree, all those movements were/are infiltrated, nothing new, it is the espected by the Protocols

Quoteand now they've unleashed the Muslims on Europe and Hispanics on America with the multi-cult agenda, which you probably support.

The multicult agenda is a Jewish agenda, agree, but don't attack the muslims or latino for that, they were scaping from the destruction,oppression and chaos at home cause and brought by . . . you guess right, the Ubiquitous Jewish ZioN Elite

Quote/tab wrote: a lot of creepy name callings going on all the time.
Riiight, like your "Zion Nazi" label which you've called me several times. SO it's okay of you to call names but how dare I respond .. :lol:

Ahh, you don't like the taste of Your Own Medicin, right?  I don't know, it doesn't feel right calling you Monkey either  :lol:

Quote/tab wrote:Are you implying here that CSR and you made "turn people off" posts, are you unconsciously admitting that in your name?
Nope, I'm implying that whichever posts of mine and CSR's you are claiming might turn people off, you've made a hundred times more posts that have the potential to turn people off.

Okey, stop trolling with the Hitler is my hero



because if not I am gonna ask CSR to send the anorectic Keira to you and I don't know what can then happen to that sorry monkey body of yours <lol>



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CrackSmokeRepublican

She's looking at you /tab... watch what you say about her.   ;)



QuoteKeira Knightley the Pirates of the Caribbean star dresses down by wearing the scuffiest clothes when she goes out. She even avoids showbiz parties to maintain a low profile.

"I think it (fame) broke something in me. I was told very early on that if I didn't go out to openings and parties and events I would be left alone. I didn't, and they still didn't leave me alone."

"I knew it was part of the deal in the life I had signed up to, but the fear of it has never left me. I'm still not good at being recognised. I wear scruffy clothes and hats and keep my head well down... I'm just very shy," she said.

The 25-year-old actress believes that she has annoyed gossip columnists over the years by not being involved in any controversies or scandals.

"I was so young when it started. I was involved in Pirates from the age of 17 until 21. At that time people couldn't get enough of people falling out of nightclubs with their knickers showing and I wasn't giving them that – and I think it infuriated them." She said
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The Jew Tabloids want to see her like the countless Shiksas-Hugh Hefner Playboy Whores... but hey, she's not.    :up:
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "/tab"When you apologies for Hitler then in the real world of real people's perception they automaticallygonna associate it with "Seig Heil" because it was the Fascist salute to the fuhrer Adolf Hitler. Oh yes, you don't mind what those you call sheeple think, i almost forget of that :roll:

What did Hitler do that warrants an apology? You're not talking about the Holohoax are you?  :eh:

Quote from: "/tab" "Nazis were financed by Jews"

I did explain it already very well in my Herzl post above, you can't argue against it, can you? You don't dare speak of that post because it is GAME OVER FOR YOU IN THE WORLD OF DEBATES and because it makes 100 % sense when thinking rationaly about it.

Herzl was apparently an "anti-semite" who respected European Gentile culture. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18 ... -disguise/

Quote"The wealthy Jews control the world, in their hands lies the fate of governments and nations. They set governments one against the other. When the wealthy jews play, the nations and the rulers dance. One way or the other, they get rich" - Theodore Herzl, deutsche Zeitung

he wasn't even planning to make a Jewish state in Palestine, he actually didn't care where, and proposed Uganda at the first Zionist conference but got ridiculed by the other Zionist leaders who wanted Palestine to fulfill biblical prophecy. As far as Jews funding hitler, it's meaningless. He took no more Jewish money then Gentile money, yet nobody is saying "Gentiles funded Hitler", why not? If he was really under Jewish control he would have never started printing his own state-controlled curency backed by German labor to break the power of the international banks and set an example for the rest of Europe.

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QuoteMSMD wrote: wow you don't actually believe that do you? This is the caricatured Jewish version of the Nazis (i.e. total garbage). If all that were true and Hitler really did think all other races were sub-human than explain this..

 <:^0

I guess that means you refuse to see the truth about Nazi Germany. Instead you cling to  :^) fantasies. It's a fact, black people were treated better as Nazi POWs than in America at the time.

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QuoteAnd the alliance with the Japanese whom Hitler spoke highly of,

 :lol:  You ignorant little monkey, don't you know of House of Schiff/Rothschild financing Japan first against Russia/The Tzar and then bringing them into the Fascistic circle preparing WWII . . .

I think you might be retarded. We were talking about your BS that National Socialist ideology was that all other races are "sub-human". I point out the alliance with Japan and Hitler's statements that he thought highly of Japanese and Chinese people.

Quote"Pride in one's own race - and that does not imply contempt for other races - is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them." - Adolf Hitler, The Political Testament of Adolf Hitler

The entire japanese people were declared "honorary Aryans" after the signing of the Anti-Comintern Pact in 1936.

This goes against your "evil white supremacist" fabricated Jewish version of Nazi history. Yea the Schiffs funded Japan against Tsarist Russia in 1905. The attack on Pearl Harbor was probably the dumbest move of WW2, but was instigated by the Jewish-controlled Roosevelt via the oil embargo, etc. Japan should have attacked Russia instead.


Quote from: "/tab"You have a lot to read and learn buddie, you lacking in knowledge about this issues seems to be huge!

I don't think I can learn much from you "buddie".  ;)


Quote from: "/tab"Oh yeah, and his alliance with England through chamberlain or with the Jew bolchevicks through Stalin, now it begins to be so awkward, it's almost sad . . .

Again you sidestep the context of our discussion. You're like a child with ADHD who forgets what the hell we were talking about within minutes. Hitler allying with members of other races debunks your nonsense about "evil white supremacist thought all other races were sub human" <:^0

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QuoteYou can blame white "colonialism" for all of Africa's troubles but that argument just doesn't hold water.

Are you crazy, Rothschild, Oppenheimer, De Beers and on and on with the Jewish Houses

I'm still not convinced you're not referring to White people when you say "ZioN".

Quote from: "/tab"The whole Caribbean was a jewish plantage from the very first time after/under Columbus. "it was prospering"  :lol:  All the black were slaves to the jewish Owners, those french were mostly Crypto jews, you are embarrassing yourself so much, stop. prospering my ass

Just like the Nazis were "crypto-Jews" right?  ;)

Quote from: "/tab"IT was the FIRST revolution in American soil, even before the American revolution, then after, the boicot came, what do you spect other than chaos?

All of the infrastructure of the country was dismantled and turned into a slum. The US military was sent in several times to bring law and order to the country. They built schools and roads, etc. When it was handed back to the blacks they tore it all up once again.

Quote from: "/tab"Propaganda, you are borring now  :yawn:  Don't you see the Dictator one after the other? Are you blind Who put those dictator in place?

So everything wrong with black countires is the fault of "White-backed corrupt dictators", "White colonialism", and on and on. Blacks can never own up to their own incompetence, it's always whitey's fault. White colonists brought medicine and infrastructure to Africa. Yes, some native Africans were used for slavery and that is wrong, but African kingdoms have used slavery for centuries and continue to enslave their own people, even today. They sold millions of their own to the Jewish slave dealers during the trans-atlantic slave trade. Yet blacks today exclusively blame the "evil white man" for slavery, when, in reality, it was mostly Jews and Africans themselves who kept slaves and ran large slave trading operations.

Quote from: "/tab"The multicult agenda is a Jewish agenda, agree, but don't attack the muslims or latino for that, they were scaping from the destruction,oppression and chaos at home cause and brought by . . . you guess right, the Ubiquitous Jewish ZioN Elite

Well some of these Muslims and Latinos are extremists and have been brainwashed to hate Whites. Like I said before, Jews have often covertly waged war on White populations through the use of other aggressive races.

Quote from: "/tab"Okey, stop trolling with the Hitler is my hero

unlike you, I wasn't trolling, just cutting through the anti-Hitler BS and laying out the facts that he was a genuine man fighting Jewish control. You obviously are not white and hate any White leader who puts the interests of his own people before that of overzealous minorities, who would kill whites en masse if they ever got in control of the country.

Quote from: "/tab"because if not I am gonna ask CSR to send the anorectic Keira to you and I don't know what can then happens to you sorry monkey body of you <lol>

Learn to speak English please, I cannot even understand half the things you say.

sullivan

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Take the example of Haiti. Under French rule it was prospering and was one of the most beautiful and fertile countries in the caribees. But when the Blacks took it over and slaughtered the White Frenchmen everything quickly reverted back to squalor, indolence and corruption. The once prosperous country was dismantled and continues to be an absolute slum. The blacks inherited a made country and couldn't make anything of it. That's not "whitey's" fault it is their own.

This assessment of the situation in Haiti is simplistic and suggests that you believe that colonisation of territories that don't belong to you is just fine as is the kidnapping and enslavement of people. Is that the case?

The French had no business being in Haiti, just like the British had no business being in Ireland. If a few of them were slaughtered when those they had enslaved had enough of their "masters", then that's just too bad. I feel no sympathy for them.  Having stolen the territory from the indigenous population and enslaving Africans who were then transported to this stolen territory, the French had the utter audacity to demand the modern equivalent of $20billion as compensation for the loss of income from plantations/slavery, income they should never have had in the first place.  

Haiti started life as an independent country saddled with this monstrous debt, which was further compounded when François Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude, both puppets of external powers, went on many a borrowing spree.  Haiti is a basket-case because foreign interference propped up corrupt dictators who not only bled the country dry, but ensured the nonsense superstitions of Voodoo lived on. It is almost as if it has been punished for daring to be the first Latin American/Caribbean colony to demand independence.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Take the example of Haiti. Under French rule it was prospering and was one of the most beautiful and fertile countries in the caribees. But when the Blacks took it over and slaughtered the White Frenchmen everything quickly reverted back to squalor, indolence and corruption. The once prosperous country was dismantled and continues to be an absolute slum. The blacks inherited a made country and couldn't make anything of it. That's not "whitey's" fault it is their own.

This assessment of the situation in Haiti is simplistic and suggests that you believe that colonisation of territories that don't belong to you is just fine as is the kidnapping and enslavement of people. Is that the case?

The French had no business being in Haiti, just like the British had no business being in Ireland. If a few of them were slaughtered when those they had enslaved had enough of their "masters", then that's just too bad. I feel no sympathy for them.  Having stolen the territory from the indigenous population and enslaving Africans who were then transported to this stolen territory, the French had the utter audacity to demand the modern equivalent of $20billion as compensation for the loss of income from plantations/slavery, income they should never have had in the first place.  

Haiti started life as an independent country saddled with this monstrous debt, which was further compounded when François Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude, both puppets of external powers, went on many a borrowing spree.  Haiti is a basket-case because foreign interference propped up corrupt dictators who not only bled the country dry, but ensured the nonsense superstitions of Voodoo lived on. It is almost as if it has been punished for daring to be the first Latin American/Caribbean colony to demand independence.


Well Sullivan don't be too quick to criticize MSMD... your children (or Grandchildren) maybe sitting next to the "poor Haitians" in class someday in Ireland proper... don't say we didn't warn you... because "they" want to spread the Multi-cult "revolution"... in the very large picture.. it has nothing to do with "payments" but only the ruination and destabilization of your nation by massive immigration...  :think:
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

ahaze

I appreciate ThirdEyeWise perspectives on Hitler as controlled opposition, playing a role a la Bush, Reagan or the myriad cast of compromised politicians.  Since Duff's directly in question in this thread, it seems appropriate to call out his historical recollection of Hitler's agenda and corresponding WWII military movements around the Suez set on taking Palestine for the Zionists.  Duff's piece provides the most cohesive synthesis of historical facts on the matter I've come across and makes plain how Hitler's privilege twisted to betray German Jews as a necessary sacrifice to win mass support, meanwhile supported by Jews to carry out procuring Palestine from the British.  That Hitler's Nazi's weren't able to take Palestine forestalled simple forced migration and created overloaded internment camps turned concentration boiling over the psychopathic negligence to mass murder until after the war when residual displaced Jews won sympathy to surpass British migration quotas restricting migration into Palestine eventually amassing enough Jews to terrorize the British out.

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GORDON DUFF: CLEANSING HISTORY OF THE HITLER-ZIONIST NEXUS
NAZI TACTICS AND BOLSHEVIK ORGANIZATIONS, THE ROOTS OF GLOBAL TERRORISM
By Gordon Duff Senior Editor/STAFF WRITER

History is subjective, though it was never meant to be.  Real history has never been in danger as it is today.  World War II wasn't the "clean war" we purport it to be but as dirty as World War I, with its secret deals and payoffs.  Everything in its aftermath has required a mythology,  misrepresention and disinformation, not only the war but its after-shocks and how the conflicts continue, almost endlessly.

Hollywood is a major tool in this process.  No, Italians didn't start organized crime but partnered with Jewish crime organizations long in existence as "junior brothers."  Is Osama bin Laden a terrorist mastermind running the world from a cave in Pakistan or is he a long dead former CIA asset and Al Qaeda a dream created by military and intelligence groups?

Perhaps the biggest secret kept from the world today was the long relationship between Hitler and Zionism, a partnership dating to the late 1920s.  Noam Chomsky's theory at Israel is America's "junk yard dog" in the Middle East is disputed by many but could have been right, just at a different time.  Israel was meant to be what it is today, violent, sociopathic, expansionist, but not allied to America but rather Nazi Germany.  Zionism was a component of Nazism, not its antithesis.  Erasing that history has required, not only myth, falsehood and deception but considerable violence and even wars.

This is how it was supposed to be:

Hitler, always funded quite mysteriously.  His German backers were penniless but Hitler was always drowning in resources, private lanes, luxurious accomodations and anything else he needed.  That Hitler had a long and well established partnership with Zionists for a final solution to the Jewish problem in Europe is part of a secret history that exists but is feared as it seemingly cannot coexist with conventional views of the Holocaust.  Could Zionists push Hitler to resettle European Jews to Palestine and yet have the process, by 1945 turn into something unforeseen, something horrific?

Zionist policies in Germany required that Jews be forced to resettle in Palestine.  Zionists shared their hatred of the British with the Nazis.  Thus, a highly organized Jewish terrorist organization could totally undermining British control of that region, once enough "settlers" were in place.  Zionist leaders agreed with Hitler, not only in his policy toward the Jews but in his other theories as well, including and especially his plans for a totalitarian state and world conquest.

The entire war, World War II,  was to play out differently, if only Rommel had been able to seize the Suez Canal.  The moment that happened, Jews in Palestine would rise against Britain, as they did after the war, but this time in coordination with Hitler's approaching armies.

Russia was supposed to be out of the war by that time.

Israel and Turkey would be fast friends, then as now.  The Ottomans and the Jews have 500 years of history, ruling the Middle East with a mailed fist and velvet purse.  

Turkey would then join the war and the entire Middle East would be in Germany's hands with the State of Israel controlling Palestine for Germany.  Sound far fetched?  By 1942, it became clear Rommel would fail to take the Suez Canal.  General Montgomery crushed The Afrika Corps at the Battle of El Alamein in October that year while Russia held Stalingrad, by February 1943 ending the Nazi juggernaut in Europe.

It all fell apart and the battle for Palestine, a battle fought against the British had to wait for 1946.

The Battle of Midway showed the inherent weakness of the Japanese who would never control India as expected, thus making control of the canal, the lifeline between India and Europe a waste of time.  The Suez Canal is the key to India and India was the key to the British empire.  In 1956, the Suez Canal would, again, be the prize, this time Britain, France and Israel were to seize the canal.  The prize here was not just trade routes but oil and real world power, something Britain and France would never again come close to.

When Stalingrad closed the door in Germany and Turkey, Switzerland, Sweden, Spain and "others" chose to sit out the war and wait for the Allies to win.  A Jewish state in Israel was, until late 1942, a vital component of Hitler's plans, plans made in concert with Zionist allies, as documents show.   Now all that is left is Israel, Germany, Britain, France...gone on the winds of history.  Now the time for Greater Israel is here with America supplying footing the bill.

 How different is "real history" from that being taught today?

HOLLYWOOD'S REPACKAGING OF ORGANIZED CRIME

Without the power of Hollywood and the media, total control of our extremely flawed version of history would be impossible.  In a parallel, recent generations involved in organized crime have become dependent on a mythologized version of their own roots, drawing from film and television.  Without TV, there wouldn't be a "Mafia."

Wiretaps and trial transcripts of American organized crime syndicates, referred to as the "Mafia" or "Cosa Nostra" have revealed one amazing fact.  Were it not for films with The Godfather or shows like the Sopranos, such organizations would have no sense of history, identity or structure.  The mythology of organized crime in America started much earlier with journalist Walter Winchell's participation in the 1950s television series, The Untouchables.  In truth, the roots of America's organized crime was never Sicily's Mafia but the Jewish gangs of New York.

Italians were only minor players, misrepresented by Hollywood, a city long controlled by organized crime, not the Italian kind but more like the real roots of America's crime syndicates as represented in the Sergio Leone classic, Once Upon a Time in America.  "Bugsy" Siegel, Meyer Lansky, Arnold Rothstein and hundreds of others ran the "senior circuit" of organized crime, the "Kosher Mafia," well established before 1900, more than two decades before Italians began to make their mark.

Similarly, in today's representations of Islamic terrorism, the "bread and butter" of "Kosher" Hollywood, the Jewish origins of Middle Eastern terrorism are ignored.  There is no Haganah, Irgunor Stern Gang.  Donald Neff writes of this in The Washington Report:
Quote"Sixty years ago....at the time of the British Mandate, it was Jews in Palestine who mainly waged terrorism against the Palestinians. As Jewish leader David Ben-Gurion recorded in his personal history of Israel: "From 1946 to 1947 there were scarcely any Arab attacks on the Yishuv [the Jewish community in Palestine]."

The same could not be said for the Zionists. Jewish terrorists waged an intense and bloody campaign against the Palestinians, British, and even some Jews who opposed them leading up to the establishment of Israel."

In a real sense, the organizations depicted continually in films and television were historically Jewish.  There were no well organized Islamic terrorist groups, no history of violence against the west and no issues with Christianity outside Ottoman expansionism into Europe.  In fact, for Muslims, there is no single uniting factor without depictions of "Al Qaeda" on television and the continual parade of "cardboard cut-out" terrorists, always the same actors, many now trying to break into other areas of performance to escape "type casting" as "evildoers."

The message Hollywood and the media moguls that control both the entertainment industry and the news media has sent out is a false one.  Terrorist organizations depicted as Muslim are based on European models, many based on Bolshevik terrorist organizations established by Leon Trotsky.  This history is being cleansed, not only from world libraries but internet sites such as Wikipedia, with considerable vigor.  None the less, it is history, fact based and real and what is supplanting it is myth and dogma.

The mythical Al Qaeda, as "seen on TV" is based on terrorist organizations in operation against, not only the British in Palestine but the Christian and Muslim population of the region on the whole.  Neff further states:
Quote"The two major Jewish terror organizations in pre-independence Palestine were the Irgun Zvai Leumi—National Military Organization, NMO, also known by the Hebrew letters Etzel—founded in 1937, and the Lohamei Herut Israel....also known as the Stern Gang after its leader Avraham Stern, known as Yair, founded in 1940.

The Irgun was led by Menachem Begin, the future Israeli prime minister who was a leading proponent of Revisionist Zionism, the militant branch of Zionism pioneered by Vladimir Zeev Jabotinsky, which openly despised the Arabs and sought restoration of what it called Eretz Yisrael,the ancient land of Israel. ...The Irgun was the dominant Jewish terrorist organization, both in size and the number and frequency of its attacks. Its most spectacular feat up to this time had been the July 22, 1946 blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, with the killing of 91 people—41 Arabs, 28 British and 17 Jews.

The other major Jewish terrorist group, Lehi, was more extremist than the Irgun, claiming all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates as belonging to the Jews. Stern sought alliance with the Nazis, both because they shared an enemy in Britain and because Lehi shared Hitler's totalitarian ideology. During the war Sternists openly celebrated Nazi victories on the battlefield."
More "erased history," very real and very much in fact, well documented and once well known, showed the long associations between Zionist groups and Adolf Hitler.  This partnership, helping Hitler "cleanse" Europe of Jews and create a Nazi German surrogate in Palestine, a Jewish state called "Israel."  Hitler's agreement with Zionists was to force Jews to leave Europe, resettle in Palestine, and through an alliance with Germany, supplant British power in the Middle East.

Israel was originally intended to be a tiny "Nazi Germany."  Neff:
Quote"An infamous document called the "Ankara Document" because it was found in the German Embassy in Ankara after the war, detailed Avraham Stern's ideas "concerning the solution of the Jewish question in Europe." It was dated Jan. 11, 1941. At the time, Stern was still a member of the Irgun, which he called by its initials, NMO.

Wrote Stern: "The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish People, Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historical boundaries....The NMO...is well acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities toward Zionist activity inside Germany and toward Zionist emigration plans....The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements in Europe in its ideology and structure.""

These organizations, the NMO or Stern Gang and the Irgun are the precursors for today's ruling Likudists, their Israeli-American allies and their current operational organization, no longer unofficial "terrorist" groups, now, since Israel achieved statehood, a national intelligence agency, the Mossad.

Were history to have gone as it had been meant to, Britain would have fallen, America would have gone fascist as early as 1934 with the Business Plot, another piece of the puzzle being erased from history, cleansed, rewritten and censored.  How much of our history is built on fables?

Does Hollywood continually rail about the Holocaust and the evils of Islam because it hides a massive conspiracy to create a world where Zionism and Nazism stood hand in hand?  We know the connections, the documents are there, the history is there and none of it fits in the version sold to the world today.  Back when Mark Weber wrote Zionism and the Third Reich, drawing, not only on "conspiratorial" works but unimpeachable sources as well, the die should have been cast:
Quote"Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity." ( 1.)   Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich."  (1.W. Martini, "Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz," Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10, 1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, "The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany, 1933-1941," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p. 65.)
In fact, no scholar could study the documents or ask the questions and still be employed or even remain out of prison.  The secrets are that damning and they go so much further than we have begun to examine today.
"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations." - JFK, NYC, April 27, 1961

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "sullivan"This assessment of the situation in Haiti is simplistic and suggests that you believe that colonisation of territories that don't belong to you is just fine as is the kidnapping and enslavement of people. Is that the case?

No, I don't believe colonisation is fine or slavery.

Quote from: "sullivan"The French had no business being in Haiti, just like the British had no business being in Ireland.

Sure, fine. And the Moors/Arabs had no business being in Spain, no? Except that invasion and takeover is "glorified" and we are told the Muslims "brought civilization" to Spain  :lol: , yet white colonization is always demoized as despotic and evil ... I wonder why? The same people who sabotaged the Spanish from within and supported the Moorish invasion own our media and demonize Whites and White history day and night.

Quote from: "sullivan"If a few of them were slaughtered when those they had enslaved had enough of their "masters", then that's just too bad. I feel no sympathy for them.  Having stolen the territory from the indigenous population and enslaving Africans who were then transported to this stolen territory,

Fine, I guess what goes around comes around... but don't think for a second that blacks wouldn't do the same or worse to Whites if they had the chance. They simply weren't advanced enough to be able to conquer superior European armies (or travel to other lands and conquer them) so they haven't yet had the opportunity. Seeing as Africans have enslaved their own people for thousands of years, slaughtered countless millions of their own, and sold hundreds of millions of their own to Jewish/European slave traders, if they had the opportunity they would take ALL white people as slaves and we'd all be working on a black-run plantation as we speak (or dead already), you can bet your bottom dollar on that one. This is how blacks treat whites when they hold the reigns of power -- they slaughter us in hordes and the Jewish media completely ignores it.

[youtube:2pnb7m7k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmf7M49Vzpc[/youtube]2pnb7m7k]

Quote from: "sullivan"Haiti started life as an independent country saddled with this monstrous debt, which was further compounded when François Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude, both puppets of external powers, went on many a borrowing spree.  Haiti is a basket-case because foreign interference propped up corrupt dictators who not only bled the country dry, but ensured the nonsense superstitions of Voodoo lived on. It is almost as if it has been punished for daring to be the first Latin American/Caribbean colony to demand independence.

How did they "ensure" that Voodoo lived on? The Spanish were there first and had converted most of the natives and african slaves to Roman Catholicism... it was the Africans themselves who clung to the Voodoo witchcraft nonsense because that is their true religion. I wish there was no foreign interference and these countries could just fend for themselves. Don't be surprised when you make a trip to "independent Haiti" with no foreign influence and it's the same slum that it is today.

Just take Liberia for example. The country was basically a "back to africa" project launched by the US gov't where freed slaves in the US were shipped back to Africa to set up their own independent nation. A consitution was even written for them in Washington. These Americanized black arrivals to Africa promptly enslaved the natives using the same system they had been living under in America. This slave system lasted 140 years and today it is still an absolute cesspool of crime, corruption, civil warfare with child soldiers smoking heroin, cross-dressing cannibals, child sacrifices, blood guzzling, dimebag prostitues, rape as an epidemic, and the biggest slum city in the world (west point) etc.

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mchawe

Great thread and thanks to MSMD for some much needed reality about Africa, a continent I live in.

This is about Gordon Duff and history. So I am going to continue on a point I didn't make very well on another thread about him. It is the interview he gave with Darryl Bradford Smith, and I thought I would transcribe the actual exchange between the two which is so important.

Duff:
We have to admit that people are weak. I was talking with someone on a similar show about a week ago or so, and this was with someone who had....as with so many.... had been financially destroyed and the livelihood of his family is in serious threat, and he is thinking,
"You know Gordon, if they came to me with the right offer I would have to take it because my family's got to survive.
And he said, "Would you blame me for it ?"
And I said, "No !"
DBS
I would blame him. I would. I would blame him and I would kick his ass. I would blame him and I would wring his neck right in front of ya...
Duff
Well it's eh..
DBS
You're not selling out my grand kids or other people's grand children. Not on my watch...uh....
Duff
But see we are supposed...This is the problem... Part of managing this.... It is just about taking away our options and managing us... It is putting us in a situation where.. All you have to do. Well find a....


Here Duff is completely thrown off balance and starts incoherently attempting to excuse his statement.

However It is all about honesty and integrity and the truth. If you don't have that you destroy your own spirit.

You have Churchill in exactly the same situation. Broke with his house Chartwell at one point up for sale. Took the money to save his skin. Bankrupted the British Empire and brought England into World War II to save his own neck. Didn't give a fuck about the innocent people of Dresden or Forsheim, and advocated the use of poison gas and anthrax in contravention of the Geneva Convention. No wonder he spent the whole war in a drunken stupor. There was no way he could live with himself. David Irving describes the situation so well...

[googlevid:13s6f572]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7277751690450162669[/googlevid:13s6f572]
Somebody please embed. Sometimes it works for me sometimes it doesn't. What am I doing wrong ?

Fester

Mchawe, nicely done!  Important point.  Been thinking it was time to come round to the Duffer again, but the Hitler workout has been excellent.
Voltaire speaking of the Jews
"You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

"These marranos go wherever there is money to be made. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have eve

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "mgt23"CSR I bet you £10, you can't provide me a link to a primary source to that La Revue magazine marx/baruch levy quote bandied around so often.

Interesting mgt23, you obviously do not have the same standard of evidence when making claims about Hitler as you do for claims about Jews. Where's your "primary source" for the Hitler=Jew/Rothschild spiel? That's right, there is none. It's all merely conjecture and suspicion. Where are Hitler's pay stubs from the Rothschild estate? There are none. But at the same time you demand a primary and truly validated source about a quote attributed to a Jew. hmmm..  :eh:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you clearly have communist sympathies.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Hey Mgt23, I'll double it if you can find the source of this -- CSR  :)  ... Marx was a  typical Scamming Jew no different than Blankfein or Madoff today:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9329

QuoteWriting to Lion Philips in the summer of 1864, Marx revealed an even more remarkable detail of his prosperous new way of life:

"I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating partly in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise) are forced up to a quite unreasonable level and then, for most part, collapse. In this way, I have made over £400 now that the complexity of the political situation affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. It's a type of operation that makes small demands on one's time, and it's worth while running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money."


By the way, Arnold Leese's book, "The Gentile's Folly" on the Rothschilds is relevant to mchawe's David Irving Video above:  

QuoteBaron Nathaniel Rothschild died in 1915; his son, Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild resigned from his seat on the Tring Urban District Council because in 1916 it passed a resolution calling upon the Government to take immediate steps for the supervision of all aliens whether naturalised or not.

In 1919, a number of well-known Jews published an open letter in which they repudiated all sympathy with Bolshevism. The first signature to the letter was that of Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild. So far as he was concerned, there was no reason to disbelieve him. The Baku oil-wells of the Rothschilds were in grave jeopardy from Bolshevism and were ultimately confiscated by the Reds.

It is obvious, however, that the Rothschilds must have prayed for the success of the Jew Kerensky's Liberal Revolution, as they had always regarded the Tsars of Russia as their worst enemies. Actually, at the fall of the Tsar's Government, the London Rothschilds sent one million roubles to the Liberty Loan floated in St. Petersburg (L, p. 270) but they lost it all later when the Bolsheviks took over power.

The Rothschild attitude towards Bolshevism changes with the times; before Hitler took over the country, Czechoslovakia, which was under Rothschild control, was semi-sovietised and allied to Red Russia. So was France, under the Paris Rothschilds; she did all she could to bring about Bolshevism in Spain in opposition to General Franco. Now, in the Jewish War of revenge against the Nazis, we find the Rothschild agent, Sarraut, Minister of the Interior, taking measures to stamp out the Communist Party in France.

Gold from the Lena goldfields in Russia was sent frequently to the Rothschilds who refined it at the Royal Mint Refinery.

Lionel Nathan Rothschild, M.P. (Leopold's son) distinguished himself on 9th July, 1936, by attacking the position of the white man in Kenya. He moved a reduction of £100 on the Colonial Office vote to call attention to the Morris-Carter recommendations for ear-marking certain lands in that colony for European settlement. He waxed eloquent on the subject of the paramountcy of native interests over those of white men in our Colonies and Mandated Territories, apparently oblivious of the fact that in 1902 it had been seriously proposed to give large slices of the very best Kenya land for a Jewish National Home! No Jew was worrying about the paramountcy of native interests in Kenya then! The amusing story how the Jews were prevailed upon ultimately to give up the idea of Kenya as a National Home is told in The Fascist, August, 1935.

According to the Daily Express of 28th April, 1937, the present (3rd) Baron Victor Rothschild was asked by W. Hickey where he would live when the lease of the Rothschild Piccadilly home fell in? The answer was "Nowhere probably; I just don't know. Not till after the war anyway." Thus it seems that the Rothschilds had made up their minds that there should be a war. And there was. Pure coincidence, of course. But it was quite far-seeing: two-and-a-half years! Remarkable.

Among the stockbroking firms which work for the Rothschilds is Vickers da Costa, a partner in which is Mr. Winston Churchill's brother, Mr. J. S. S. Churchill. Another of these firms is Cazenove Akroyd & Greenwood, and it is stated in Men of the Reign, 1885, p. 171-2, that Philip Cazenove (1799-1880) became prosperous in the Stock Exchange because of the "powerful interest of the founder of the house of Rothschild," by whom Nathan was obviously meant. Cazenove became a munificent supporter of Church charities! We may take it that Cazenove spells Rothschild, and it is well known that the name Churchill stands for "the Jews," from Solomon Medina in the early 18th century who paid £6,000 a year for the information the Duke of Marlborough (a Churchill) exchanged for that sum in the wars on the continent, to Barney Baruch on whose doorstep Winston broke his leg on his last visit to the U.S.A. Winston Churchill is thus not altogether an inappropriate First Sea Lord in a war against the Jews' chief enemy Herr Adolf Hitler.

Until 1938, the Rothschilds had a large interest in the multiple shops of Woolworth's Chain Stores, amounting to two-and-a-quarter million ordinary and 4,800,000 preference shares. The ordinary shares were sold in 1938 through the Jew firm Philip Hill & Partners.

In late years, an absurd film has been boosted in Europe and America called "The House of Rothschild," in which Nathan Rothschild is depicted as the chief of Britain's patriots, whilst the Duke of Wellington appears as a sort of clown. The absurdity of the immigrant Jew, Nathan Rothschild, uncultured, never able even to speak decent English, and obviously incapable of thinking like an Englishman, being a Patriot is clear to anyone uncontaminated by such ridiculous propaganda. The first night performance of this shameless travesty of history was arranged by Mr. Anthony Rothschild and his wife (who is very active in pushing forward Jewish propaganda films), the Jewesses the Marchioness of Reading and Mrs. Israel Moses Sieff. It was acknowledged in the press to be pure Jewish propaganda for the Gentile.

Before leaving the English scene, the development of the Alliance Assurance Co. which we have seen was started by Nathan Rothschild, calls for a few sentences. Lloyds and the Alliance are now united. Lord Wardington, Chairman of Lloyds is a Director of the Alliance. Sir Austin Harris, Deputy-chairman of Lloyds, and a Director of the Commercial Union Assurance Co. has a son married to the granddaughter of Nathaniel Rothschild. Nathaniel and Lionel Walter Rothschild were both Chairmen of the Alliance in succession. The Alliance Assurance Co. has the controlling interest of the Rio Tinto Company which manages the Rothschild copper mines in Spain (see p. 58), the Chairman of which is Sir Auckland Geddes. No wonder the Geddes family gets on! The other Directors of the Alliance Assurance Co. include representatives of the Bank of England, of Baring Bros., and the Oil Jew, Lord Bearsted of the Shell Co. and of M. Samuel & Co.

When Nathaniel Rothschild was one day looking through new risks undertaken by the Company, he found (L, p. 249) that his son, Lionel Walter, had actually insured his father's life for £200,000, partly in the Company. This was too much for Nathaniel, who discouraged his son's participation in Rothschild business thereafter. But the Jew C. Roth evidently thought it was a very smart bit of work, or he would surely not have recorded it in his book.

Four per cent. Industrial Dwellings is a Company formed by Nathaniel Rothschild in 1885, and has an all-Jewish Directorate to-day.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/ ... _Leese.htm
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan


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Hitler Was Working for the Rothschilds, Says Greek Orthodox Bishop


Greek Orthodox Christian Bishop - Hitler was an instrument of a Zionist conspiracy [ENG Subs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DYeAv2vSIU


Immediately below the views counter on YouTube (you must klick and go to Youtube), there is an icon depicting a text highlighter, which provides a transcript in English when it is clicked. Clicking the "CC" icon just below the video screen will bring up the closed caption subtitles.



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QuoteMSMD wrote : unfortunately the good bishop read one website and thinks he's got Hitler figured out... which is typical of anti-Zionists becuz they've already been programmed to hate Hitler so this is the preferred theory as opposed to Hitler just being the good guy as I believe he was.


Mr Monkey, we already know you are a believer, and that is okey, I think it's very good you recognize it here above.    :D:D


QuoteMSMD wrote : Assuming the Bishop isn't pulling this out of thin air, I'd like to see the source that "rothschild" funded Hitler. I've heard Oppenheimer, Warburg and Wallstreet, but now Rothschild directly? There's probably no proof of this and seems to just be a generic claim these days (rothschild funded this, rothschild funded that). /tab, since you want to beat a dead horse with this (on orders from your siamese twin thirdeye), where is the evidence that Rothschild funded Hitler,

Please, just don't shut the messenger, I was reporting about it because it 's been on the news and I found the Video with English translation  and I thought it was worth to publish it here at TiU. If you want to know where the Bishop found the information I recommend you that you contact the Bishop/the Church by yourself and ask him/them or ask some greek  :up:

Well, I am gonna ask you this first: Do you admite that some Jewish Bankers were founding The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP) from their beginnings (1920s)?

Do you think that in the case House of Rothschild were contributing with this very same financing, that they did that in a way that we can show pappers about it 90 years later?  :lol: Or can we agree that they were in that case very secretely about it  and using i e Secret societies in this work and undercover agents ?  8-)  

But now I 'm gonna invert this thing and ask you for prove that House of Rothschild weren't financing the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei by then ? Because on the other side we know House of Rothschild were dominating Europe and the other Jewish Bank Elite Houses since a looong time ago.


 
QuoteMSMD wrote : besides what is written in some obscure book by a Jew or crackpot looking to cash in on Hitler's image. I want the primary source, not some guy quoting some other guy quoting some other guy quoting a Jew. ;)

Look, we have got some  great stuff coming from Jews (insiders) telling us about things that happened by then ( I think for example of Benjamin Freedman) or even recently (Jack Bernstein), but, warning, often you find a lot of misconceptions mix with the message or even pure Deception, beguilement, deceit, bluff, propanganda, mystification, and subterfuges, so, beware. The Cash factor of course also matters.


Benjamin Freedman
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Asv-SE%3Aofficial&q=Benjamin+Freedman+pdf&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel - Jack Bernstein
http://www.archive.org/details/TheLifeOfAnAmericanJewInRacistMarxistIsrael
http://www.biblestudysite.com/markis.htm


QuoteMSMD wrote : A few interesting facts:

Rothschild bankers expelled from Austria by Hitler, valuables seized
QuoteThe Rothschild business empire was passed down to ensuing generations until the March 13, 1938 Anschluss of Austria to Nazi Germany when the family was pressured to sell its banking operations at a fraction of its real worth. While other Rothschilds had escaped the Nazis, Baron Louis was held in prison for a year and only released after a substantial ransom was paid by his family. After Baron Louis was stripped of his Austrian citizenship and allowed to leave the country empty-handed, in March 1939 the Nazis placed the firm of S M von Rothschild under compulsory administration and then sold it to the German private bank Merck, Finck & Co. in October 1939. Nazi officers and senior staff from Austrian museums also emptied the Rothschild family estates of all their valuables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild ... ia#History

Nazis commission making of the film "The Rothschilds' Shares in Waterloo" (1940) http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=566

Is this usually how Rothschild puppets behave?  :wtf: maybe one who suffers from Amnesia who constantly forgets who he's working for ...


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Quote from: "Fester"Mchawe, nicely done!  Important point.  Been thinking it was time to come round to the Duffer again, but the Hitler workout has been excellent.

Yes, here is an interview with Duff


The Free American Hour - Dec 23,  2010 His Guest today is:  Gordon Duff Veterans


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CrackSmokeRepublican

The History Channel's Version:

Rothschild (Bank Of England) Banking With Hitler

[youtube:19ejgjxb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emWGKI0GfDE[/youtube]19ejgjxb]

UK Version:

[youtube:19ejgjxb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YauM5dHLn1s[/youtube]19ejgjxb]
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

mgt23

great response CSR...just what i wanted. i fear though u miss my point which is that THEY believe it and they are part of a cult. A death cult if you will which is based on bollox as you just pointed out. Since these guys serve darkness it is ironic that they think they are illuminated when in fact they are woefully ignorant because of the talmudic priciple of the protocols.