A Freemason in We Are Change NYC

louiebee · June 16, 2010, 01:51:09 AM

One of the more prominent members of We Are Change NYC an activist group heavily involved with 9/11 truth and spreading information about the New World Order conspiracy is an admitted freemason. In a short documentary film specifically dedicated to covering the activities We Are Change NYC entitled Truth to Power, We Are Change member Craig Fitzgerald admits to being a part of the centuries old secretive order. Approximately seven minutes into the film, Fitzgerald brags about being a member of the secretive group but then goes on to talk about how the Bilderberg group and the Council on Foreign Relations are bad because they conduct business in secret. It is a complete insult to the viewers intelligence as Fitzgerald who admits to being a member of a secret society tries to make people believe that the Bilderberg group and other associated geopolitical based think tanks and organizations are the ones really running the show. Even stranger is why other members of We Are Change don't seem to have issues with a member of their group who proudly admits to being a freemason. After all, isn't We Are Change supposed to be against secretive groups? When analyzing this at face value, does this really make any sort of sense?

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thirdeyewise · June 16, 2010, 02:48:44 AM

Definitely a freemasonic symbol I have seen many times, here are but a couple:

People act like these signs mean nothing, but they do!

MikeWB · June 16, 2010, 03:15:36 AM

That's not a freemasonic sign. I have many freemasonic books and that's definitely not a masonic sign. There's a ton of masonic exposure sites on the web... go and find this hand position and post a pic here.

Just because someone doesn't know what to do with their hands or is nervous or likes to fiddle with their fingers in social situations doesn't mean they're masons. This is the same type of bullshit that Texe Marrs prints in his Codex Magica book.

Anyway, total nonsense.

louiebee · June 16, 2010, 04:39:38 AM

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jai_mann · June 16, 2010, 06:04:58 AM

Upon watching that video I'd say this guy is a Jew. His facial features and hair say it. His nose looks jewish, his brow and eye brows look jewish, and his hair does too.

I wonder if this is a distraction to help Rudkowski help garner credit again by distracting from the fact that he funneled it to his college account.

louiebee · June 16, 2010, 02:06:54 PM

Not When Rudkowski Supports this Guy.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 16, 2010, 05:47:48 PM

Quote from: "MikeWB"Just because someone doesn't know what to do with their hands or is nervous or likes to fiddle with their fingers in social situations doesn't mean they're masons.

This is a straw-man if I've ever heard one. :lolno:

Quote from: "MikeWB"Anyway, total nonsense.

You seem pretty sure of yourself there mikey. "Total" nonsense?

Louie B has clearly shown that this guy is a mason. You're like a mix between a conspiracy theorist and Michael Shermer.

thirdeyewise · June 16, 2010, 08:04:59 PM

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Louie B has clearly shown that this guy is a mason.

The guy clearly stated he is a mason and he goes out of his way to flash masonic signs in every photo. pretty simple, I think.

MikeWB · June 16, 2010, 08:08:56 PM

MSMD,

That's not a proof of anything. It's just like that Jay-Z Illuminati nonsense. Like I said, show me the hand sign in any of the masonic literature that you can find online. All of the masonic secrets have been exposed. Secondly, this guy looks like a loser and there's no masonic lodge in US that would accept him.

As for your last point, I'm not gullible and can still critically think and don't believe anything without some evidence.

PS: Before I realized the truth about conspiracies, I was one of those Masonic conspiracy believers and have read every book on masons that I could find and have even observed masonic lodges from a parked car and have seen what kinds of people are these masons. This guy looks like someone who cleans their lawns.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 16, 2010, 08:31:00 PM

Quote from: "MikeWB"MSMD,
That's not a proof of anything.

lol, you love using that line. You say it all the time.

Quote from: "MikeWB"Like I said, show me the hand sign in any of the masonic literature that you can find online. All of the masonic secrets have been exposed.

Okay, the hand in jacket is a masonic pose

Quote from: "MikeWB"Secondly, this guy looks like a loser and there's no masonic lodge in US that would accept him.

How do you know who the Masons accept? Are you a mason? Remember they accepted that Jonathan Elinoff character into the lodge, so obviously the lower levels don't require any kind of social standing. You probably just have to know somebody who's already a mason and they'll get you in. This guy might just be a wannabe mason, but still it's strange that you are denying that he is flashing masonic symbols when he clearly is on purpose.

Quote from: "MikeWB"As for your last point, I'm not gullible and can still critically think and don't believe anything without some evidence.

Obviously you are gullible if you think this guy is just "fiddling with his fingers" and not deliberatly shooting mason signs. I think the JREF type pseudo-skeptics would be right in line with your reasoning.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 16, 2010, 10:08:45 PM

As usual MikeWB simply doesn't respond when he doesn't want to. :clap:

GordZilla · June 16, 2010, 10:13:52 PM

Ok well we could find out this douche bag's name and then try to find out if indeed his is a mason or not.

Personally I don't care either way, once a douche bag... always a douche bag :-)

Whaler · June 16, 2010, 10:27:00 PM

http://projects.jrn.columbia.edu/video/TruthToPower/

go to 7 minutes of this film. He lays it all out. He even shows his Mason patches.

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Admitted ... 3/Y/M.html

scorpio · June 16, 2010, 10:35:55 PM

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"As usual MikeWB simply doesn't respond when he doesn't want to. :clap:

Yep.

The Hand inside the jacket is definitely a masonic gesture. That's a simple fact. Look it up.
Masonry has been a Jewish run institution for a very long time. That's why there is Hebrew lettering inside many of the ritual rooms.
One of Masonry's great goals is the rebuilding of Soloman's Temple!!! Sound familiar??
If you don't think Masonry has power, try visiting the Mother lodge in Washington DC....It's a Palace.
The 33rd degree room there is full of pictures of powerful contemporary Masons.

Whaler - Great find on with that new pic!
Pretty much settles that issue.

BTW look at the sneaky look in his eye. What a scumbag!

louiebee · June 16, 2010, 10:38:30 PM

Criag Fitzgeralds father is also a freemason thats how he got taped

scorpio · June 16, 2010, 10:50:54 PM

Quote from: "louiebee"Criag Fitzgeralds father is also a freemason thats how he got taped

Yep.
The old saying the Masons have is "to be one, ask one."
Having a family member that's a Mason is even better.

thirdeyewise · June 16, 2010, 11:35:36 PM

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"so obviously the lower levels don't require any kind of social standing.

My barber is a mason and it is obvious by talking to him that all he is interested in is the perks that come with the title.
Does that mean I accuse him of understanding this world wide Jewish/masonic plot...of course not!
but I understand the part he plays in it...a useful tool.

Here is a good documentary: The Lightbringers: The Emissaries of Jahbulon
http://www.sprword.com/videos/lightbringers/

@22:00 Mentions the Bolsheviks being Masons

@45:15 mentions Bnai Brith Jewish order of Bnai Brith, superior to all other branches of Freemasonry. It constitutes a kind of Freemasonry within Freemasonry

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 16, 2010, 11:36:22 PM

Quote from: "scorpio"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"As usual MikeWB simply doesn't respond when he doesn't want to. :clap:
Yep.

You've noticed it too eh Scorpio? I take it he thinks we are not "worthy" of a response. He portrays a standard atheist attitude towards everything and seems to never back off his original position or at least admit he might have been wrong.

SavageChrist · June 17, 2010, 12:03:14 AM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Louie B has clearly shown that this guy is a mason.

The guy clearly stated he is a mason and he goes out of his way to flash masonic signs in every photo. pretty simple, I think.

2 easy for that matter. Makes ya wonder why they never changed some, or all, of their signs so that this kind of thing can't keep getting picked off by the non-Masons.
Then again, when they like to openly brag about being who they are, and how they acknowledge 1 another via these hand signals, it isn't that big of a surprise.

Betcha Luke isn't happy having this nugget of info come out, it only puts him and his known corrupt organization of WAC NYC back on the map to then have their true colors revealed again, by people such as Louiebee and others. I'm sure Luke is no idiot, and surely, he had to have known what this guy was doing, or at least someone who has looked into Freemasonry / Occult, within the organization would have pointed it out sooner, and gotten rid of the individual in question as low-key as they could.

Yet another nail in the coffin against Luke & WAC, along with just about all of the so called "Patriot Groups" in the USA, as I'm sure there will be more people exposed and confirmed in various other groups to be along the lines of Fitzgerald. Then again, more people care about the burnt down "Touchdown Jesus" statue that burned down via lightning strike on Monday night ( I live 15-20 miles away from that thing btw, and its gonna get rebuilt to the tune of 700k

) in my little part of the world, than individuals actually looking into matters like these and finding out who the real frauds and crooks are. Kinda shows what a screwed up world we live in huh?

-SC

scorpio · June 17, 2010, 12:41:54 AM

Quote from: "SavageChrist"2 easy for that matter. Makes ya wonder why they never changed some, or all, of their signs so that this kind of thing can't keep getting picked off by the non-Masons.
Then again, when they like to openly brag about being who they are, and how they acknowledge 1 another via these hand signals, it isn't that big of a surprise.

Freemasonry is steeped in tradition and ritual. That's why they can't change it....Kind of like Judaism, which has controlled Freemasonry for a very long time.
This guy is definitely just a low level Mason, judging from his young age. It takes many years to become 33rd degree.
Lower level Masons know very little about about their organization. They are controlled through their ambitions.
Anyone who thinks Masonry is harmless and powerless, is very naive, no matter how many books they have read on the subject.
I have a sizable library on Freemasonry. The really informative books are old, hard to find, and expensive.
Check out the book The Cause For World Unrest, by Howell Arthur Gwynne, published 1920. (There are reprints available that aren't too expensive).

Let's not forget the reason any of us have heard of 'We Are Change'.....Alex Jones!!

Timothy_Fitzpatrick · June 17, 2010, 01:05:43 AM

OK, so first we find out that a bunch of Jews were leading We Are Change, and now the Masons. I wish I could say I was surprised.

thirdeyewise · June 17, 2010, 02:19:54 AM

Quote from: "MikeWB"Just because someone doesn't know what to do with their hands or is nervous or likes to fiddle with their fingers in social situations doesn't mean they're masons.

And just by some weird coincidence, their nervous hands end up in that same pyramid configuration, EVERYTIME!

That "hidden hand of Jahbulon" sign can be found being done by almost every significant revolutionary/political figure of any importance in modern history.It's importance can not be underestimated by anyone trying to connect the dots in the grand scheme of things.

Quote from: "MikeWB"Anyway, total nonsense.

Seriously from past experience, I'm just surprised this thread has been closed and relocated to the "nonsense file".

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 17, 2010, 03:24:12 AM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MikeWB"Just because someone doesn't know what to do with their hands or is nervous or likes to fiddle with their fingers in social situations doesn't mean they're masons.

And just by some weird coincidence, their nervous hands end up in that same pyramid configuration, EVERYTIME!

Don't bother with it thirdeye, it's not in him to admit misjudgment or revoke his opinion, as far as I can tell.

Negentropic · June 17, 2010, 04:41:43 AM

What's the point of giving these hand signs in photos? Isn't it supposed to be a secret order? I know masons will admit to their non-mason friends that they're masons. So by giving hand signs all they're doing is giving away their cover to every single person who sees that photo and knows a thing or two about masonic signs, right? What is it a point of pride? A show of power? Do they really need to contact other masons and let them know what's what with some stupid hand sign? Mr. hairy We are Change is a mason and flashing it like a gang member, so is howdy-doody Ron Paul who's more restrained. You've got Goethe, Shakespeare, Mozart, George Washington on one side and you've got Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin, Castro, Chavez, Ahmedinejad and Putin on the other side. They put people in positions of power, some do evil some do good and it all works to benefit the 'master plan.' . Where have we heard that before? Could it be the return of the son of the Black Pope himself?

A total of thirteen different people have served as Prime Minister of Israel. [including "acting" PM's] Four of those people have served on two non-consecutive occasions.

Of these 13 people, documentation and/or references found thus far indicate at least eight (

of these people are (were) Masons:

David Ben-Gurion - Freemason
Moshe Sharett
Levi Eshkol
Yigal Allon
Golda Meir - Co-Mason
Yitzhak Rabin - Freemason
Shimon Peres* - Freemason and Jesuit (Roman Catholic) trained
Menachem Begin
Yitzhak Shamir
Benjamin Netanyahu - Freemason
Ehud Barak - Freemason
Ariel Sharon - Freemason
Ehud Olmert** - Freemason

http://lefemineforlife.blogspot.com/2008/05/freemason-israel-prime-ministers-1948.html

MikeWB · June 17, 2010, 01:43:11 PM

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"As usual MikeWB simply doesn't respond when he doesn't want to. :clap:

Mike doesn't spend every waking moment on this forum and Mike prefers to spend his time on something more interesting than to argue about nonsense.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 17, 2010, 02:10:13 PM

Quote from: "MikeWB"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"As usual MikeWB simply doesn't respond when he doesn't want to. :clap:

Mike doesn't spend every waking moment on this forum and Mike prefers to spend his time on something more interesting than to argue about nonsense.

I knew you'd play the "I wasn't online" card.

But that doesn't fly too far because you have one of the highest post counts on the forum, so clearly you are on here a lot. And you still haven't responded because that would mean a retraction of your claim that this freemason stuff is "nonsense", which of course you cannot do as this would hurt your ego.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo · June 17, 2010, 02:59:31 PM

Rank speculation on my part but you sound like a Mason Mike. Masons usually react to mason talk in the same way and call it "nonsense". Just as Ryan Dawson of anti-neocons makes fun of people who mention Masons on his forum, it's because he is a mason.

maz · June 17, 2010, 03:04:33 PM

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Just as Ryan Dawson of anti-neocons makes fun of people who mention Masons on his forum, it's because he is a mason.

Really? Is that true? I'm of the opinion that the guy in the photographs is indeed a mason, but so what?

thirdeyewise · June 17, 2010, 03:49:59 PM

Quote from: "maz"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Just as Ryan Dawson of anti-neocons makes fun of people who mention Masons on his forum, it's because he is a mason.

Really? Is that true? I'm of the opinion that the guy in the photographs is indeed a mason, but so what?

All I know is that it sounded strange to me when I read that on his forum he re-classifies any postings about "Israel doing 911" into the nonsense section, sort of like someone does on this forum when you mention things he does not agree with. All that "totalitarian behavior" strikes me as some kind of gatekeeper tactic, which I find very suspect.

maz · June 17, 2010, 03:56:08 PM

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "maz"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Just as Ryan Dawson of anti-neocons makes fun of people who mention Masons on his forum, it's because he is a mason.

Really? Is that true? I'm of the opinion that the guy in the photographs is indeed a mason, but so what?

All I know is that it sounded strange to me when I read that on his forum he re-classifies any postings about "Israel doing 911" into the nonsense section, sort of like someone does on this forum when you mention things he does not agree with. All that "totalitarian behavior" strikes me as some kind of gatekeeper tactic, which I find very suspect.

He put's "Israel did 9/11" by our MSMD into the nonsense section because it says "Jew" not "Zionist", but Ry's research says that Israel did 9/11. Weird, but yeah that's gatekeeping. Ry is a hardcore athiest too, but I'd be a little surprised if he was a mason though.