Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

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Ognir

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Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown to comment on the investigation of a shoo


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SavageChrist

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"This has gotta be a psyop.
Yeah, the name alone of the school suggests otherwise...

Sandy Hook Elementary

And gee, what just went through the NE US roughly a month and a half ago?  Superstorm Sandy that is.

Already the story has been changed numerous times, so obviously they may have failed to cover all of their tracks again.  But now, that they've gone for children, its to invoke the anger of human emotion as to why someone would shoot up a school full of elementary kids, and call for gun bans, etc etc.
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Wimpy

The gunman has been identified as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, .......

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ada

5:00pm Shooter Adam Lanza (20) identified as killer.  Brother Ryan Lanza (24) being interviewed by police.  Only one person shot was able to survive.  Presumably this would be the Vice-principal.   Nancy Lanza was shooters mother who was also killed.   Shooter armed with Model .223 Bushwacker rifle and two handguns, a Glock and a Sig. *depending on setup the .223 can be an assault style rifle or not.

4:10pm – Shooter confusion.  Two brothers:  Adam aged 20, and Ryan aged 24, have both been outlined as the shooter.   Currently Fox  is reporting the younger brother Adam is the shooter, and the older brother Ryan is in custody in New Jersey.   It is all confused and the media is all over the place.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... -shooting/

Ognir

Law enforcement officials: #CTshooting suspect is Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza as investigators said earlier. http://on.cnn.com/Zq1uF7
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SavageChrist

Found some interesting connections, via a poster @ SGTreport, for those who are familiar with that website...  Sandy Hook btw is a village in the town of Newton, CT, according to Wikipedia and fact checked elsewhere...

from : http://sgtreport.com/2012/12/brother-te ... /#comments

Quotea v m
December 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm · Reply   

Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games

Collins resides in Sandy Hook, Connecticut, with her husband and their two children.

This horrific crime was perpetrated in the town that the author of Hunger Games lives.

These are never random events.

This is clearly a deliberate chosen and symbolic false flag – a child sacrifice ritual that the Illuminati love so much.

Let the real Hunger Games begin with a huge, horrific blood sacrifice of innocent children.
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Wimpy

Reporter is First To Tell Adam Lanza's Father of Connection To Shooting

While the world watched news of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary unfold, it seems Peter Lanza only found out about his connection to the tragic events several hours later. Moments after police left Peter Lanza's home in Stamford, Conn., around 40 miles from Newtown, Conn., where the shooting took place, Adam Lanza's father drove up in a blue Mini Cooper. The Stamford Advocate's Maggie Gordon was waiting outside and when she introduced herself as a reporter she was immediately surprised he didn't seem to realize why a reporter would want to talk to him.

"So I continued, explaining that I'd been told someone at his address had been linked to the shootings in Newtown," writes Gordon. "His expression twisted from patient, to surprise to horror; it was obvious that this moment, shortly after 1:30 p.m. Friday, was the first time he had considered his family could have been involved." Peter Lanza quickly declined to comment and went into his house. Peter and Nancy Lanza divorced in 2009 after 28 years of marriage due to "irreconcilable differences," according to court records. Adam Lanza was 17 at the time. Peter Lanza is a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, according to his LinkedIn profile.
//[url=http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/15/peter_lanza_reporter_tells_adam_lanza_father_of_connection_to_sandy_hook.html]http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/%20...%20_hook.html [/url]
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FrankDialogue

Let's be very careful with this...None of it adds up so far, as the so-called shooter being blamed is described as suffering from a form of autism; Yet, this autistic young man, by himself, supposedly takes a number of automatic weapons, with rifles left in the boot of the car, then goes in and shoots 20+ people...BUT, before he does that, he first murders his mother at home (she supposedly was a teacher at the school (now being denied)  AND was the registered owner of the guns supposedly used)...Supposed shooter, Adam Lanza, kills himself after the act...No witnesses as to the murder of his mother at the family home...The 'perpetrator' now dead also...And I GUARANTEE, there will be reliable ballistic evidence made available linking said weapons to bullets found in victims...IN FACT THERE WILL BE NO BALLISTICS EVIDENCE OR CORRESPONDING AUTOPSY REPORTS MADE AVAILABLE...It stinks already, and local and state police are fuc*ing up already, having initially misidentified the perp as Ryan Lanza, Adam Lanza's brother, who lives in Hoboken NJ and was at work at an accounting firm in NYC when shooting took place.

Expect to see FEDs to arrive on scene to 'help' state and local police.

Of course, this may have just been what it was reported to be, but there are lots of reasons to be wary.



Adam Lanza: note, only available photo of Lanza, who was described as 20 years old' this seems to be a picture of a younger teenager...

You read this latest report and tell me if it makes sense...The news reports have been changing constantly since yesterday (12/14/12) morning:



Gunman who killed 26 forced his way into Connecticut elementary school, police say

Published December 15, 2012



NEWTOWN, Conn. –  Connecticut State Police say a gunman who massacred 26 children and adults at an elementary school before committing suicide forced his way into the building.

Lt. Paul Vance said Saturday morning that the suspect was not voluntarily let into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton.

Investigators were trying to learn more about the gunman, Adam Lanza, and questioned his older brother, who is not believed to have been involved in the rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary. Police shed no light on the motive for the nation's second-deadliest school shooting.

Lanza shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, drove to the school in her car with at least three guns, including a high-powered rifle that he apparently left in the back of the vehicle, and shot up two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. Friday, law enforcement officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman on the loose, and someone switched on the intercom, alerting people in the building to the attack -- and perhaps saving many lives -- by letting them hear the hysteria going on in the school office, a teacher said. Teachers locked their doors and ordered children to huddle in a corner or hide in closets as shots echoed through the building.

Lanza was found dead inside the school, according to officials. Eighteen of the children and six more adults were dead at the school and two more children died later, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said at a press conference Friday.

The well-liked principal, Dawn Hochsprung, was believed to be among the dead. A woman who worked at the school was wounded.

The tragedy elicited horror and soul-searching around the world even as it raised more basic questions about why the gunman, a 20-year-old described as brilliant but remote, would have been driven to such a crime and how he chose his victims.

In tight-knit Newtown on Friday night, hundreds of people packed St. Rose of Lima church and stood outside in a vigil for the 28 dead -- 20 children and six adults at the school, the gunman's mother at home, and the gunman himself, who committed suicide. People held hands, lit candles and sang "Silent Night."

Vance would not confirm the shooter's name, and earlier Friday there were conflicting reports over the gunman's identity. Law enforcement sources told FoxNews.com the shooter was Lanza. His brother, Ryan Lanza, 24, who was widely and erroneously reported to be the suspect, was questioned in Hoboken, N.J., but authorities said he was not involved.  An FBI source tells Fox News that Ryan Lanza and the father, Peter Lanza, have both been cleared and are not longer being questioned.

"It is not a simplistic scene," Vance told reporters.


The rampage, coming less than two weeks before Christmas, was the nation's second-deadliest school shooting, exceeded only by the Virginia Tech massacre that claimed 33 lives in 2007.

The vehicle the suspect drove to the school was registered to his mother. At least three guns were found -- a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car, authorities said.

Sources told Fox News the guns used in the shooting were owned by and legally registered to Nancy Lanza.

Vance said during Friday afternoon's news conference that police arrived at the scene "within minutes" of a 911 call placed shortly after 9:30 a.m.

"Every door, every crack, every crevice of that school" was checked, Vance said. "The entire school was searched." He said the shooting occurred inside two rooms in "one section of the school."

Vance did not give details about the number of victims other than to say they included students and staff, pending notification of the families. He said more information would be released, possibly later Friday.

Vance also said that a "deceased adult" was found at a "secondary crime scene," though he declined to elaborate.

A source close to the investigation said the shooter's father, who lives in Stamford, Conn., is meeting with FBI agents.

Lanza was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and lived with his mother, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but was not authorized to discuss it.

A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to it.

At least one parent said Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher at the school. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.

Former bus driver Marsha Moskowitz, who knew both Nancy Lanza and principal Dawn Hochsprung, said the shootings have shaken the small town to its core.

"Hug your kids tell them you love them," Moskowitz said. "I used to bus all these kids from kindergarten to high school. I know them."

President Obama was notified of the shooting around 10:30 am ET, White House officials said.

"Our hearts are broken today," Obama said in a brief address to the nation on Friday. "We've endured too many of these tragedies in these past few years, and each time I receive the news I react not as a president, but as a parent."

"Most victims were children, between five and 10 years old...They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations weddings, kids of their own," he said, pausing before wiping tears from his eyes.

Sandy Hook Elementary School has close to 700 students.

Newtown is in Fairfield County, about 45 miles southwest of Hartford and 60 miles northeast of New York City.

Anthony Bloss, whose three daughters survived the shootings, said they are doing better than he is. "I'm numb. I'm completely numb," he said at Friday night's vigil in Newtown.

Mary Pendergast said her 9-year-old nephew was in the school at the time of the shooting but wasn't hurt after his music teacher helped him take cover in a closet.

Richard Wilford's 7-year-old son, Richie, told him that he heard a noise that sounded like "cans falling." The boy said a teacher went out to check on the noise, came back in, locked the door and had the children huddle in the corner until police arrived.

"There's no words," Wilford said. "It's sheer terror, a sense of imminent danger, to get to your child and be there to protect him."



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FrankDialogue

A few basic questions:

1)  Who was this guy in camoflage pants?...Police say the perp killed himself inside school.

2)   Any video of actual bodies being carried out?...No local news have this on video?...Bodies had to be carried out HOURS after supposed shooting take place, so where were reporters?...Or was the 'crime scene' completely sealed off, no media allowed anywhere near?

3)  No list of victims names yet?

Reasonable questions, right?

FrankDialogue

Now, please read and note the very last line of story about 'class unaccounted for', and also note phrases like shooting being an 'active event'.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/shooting-reported-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school-in-newtown-connecticut/

Also, why not one interview with a parent whose child was shot?

CrackSmokeRepublican

Extremely tragic, especially at this time of year.  Very sad to see the loss of so many children.  
I bet psychotropic drugs (Paxil, etc.) were at play. Looking at news about his family life, it doesn't look like much was stable for him over the years and he probably lost contact with reality in his late teens. Like Loughner,  the late teens is a time when schizophrenic type behaviors often first appear.  Don't know if that was definitely the case but likely especially if mood-altering prescriptions were involved.    

Sickens me to see CNN's Head Israeli Propagandist - Jew Corrupter in Chief, Wolf Blitzer, ramble on about the Lanza family's  "problems", and then going on to describe all of the deaths of the children in Newton along with the suffering of the families and survivors -- as if he was really "sensitive" to it all.   Typical, Jew mediation at its TV worst.

This just races through my mind watching the news on Newton killings --->>>  Jews out of medicine, Jews out of Education, Jews out of Media, Jews out Banking, Jews out of Government and finally, Jews out of power, especially...power to destroy the family unit with various unchecked tactics (i.e., porn, selfishness, lack of self-control, framing a negative "self-image",  lack of faith, vanity, etc.)-- and with that power removed, tragic events like mass-murder would happen very, very rarely if ever in a Gentile world.
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Rockclimber

I can't disagree with a single thing you posted, excellent Csr!

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Extremely tragic, especially at this time of year.  Very sad to see the loss of so many children.  
I bet psychotropic drugs (Paxil, etc.) were at play. Looking at news about his family life, it doesn't look like much was stable for him over the years and he probably lost contact with reality in his late teens. Like Loughner,  the late teens is a time when schizophrenic type behaviors often first appear.  Don't know if that was definitely the case but likely especially if mood-altering prescriptions were involved.    

Sickens me to see CNN's Head Israeli Propagandist - Jew Corrupter in Chief, Wolf Blitzer, ramble on about the Lanza family's  "problems", and then going on to describe all of the deaths of the children in Newton along with the suffering of the families and survivors -- as if he was really "sensitive" to it all.   Typical, Jew mediation at its TV worst.

This just races through my mind watching the news on Newton killings --->>>  Jews out of medicine, Jews out of Education, Jews out of Media, Jews out Banking, Jews out of Government and finally, Jews out of power, especially...power to destroy the family unit with various unchecked tactics (i.e., porn, selfishness, lack of self-control, framing a negative "self-image",  lack of faith, vanity, etc.)-- and with that power removed, tragic events like mass-murder would happen very, very rarely if ever in a Gentile world.

MikeWB

Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened:

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
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Quote from: "MikeWB"Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened:

Morgan Freeman? Oh come on..

Ognir

Connecticut Anamolies

1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.
 
2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)
 
3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).
 
4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
 
5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?
 
6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?
 
7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
 
8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday -- something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
 
[Note from the Kung Fu Instructor: Joanne Di Donato is probably a Jewess.  "Didonato" and "Donato" are surnames listed on the Jewish Surnames Index.  Go to http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.htm.  The first name, "Joanne," begins with the letter "J."  Many Jewesses have first names that begin with the letter "J."  A similar thing happened on 911, when thousands of Jews did not go to work that day.  The Kung Fu Instructor  knows the wife of one of them, and she has since moved to Boca Raton, Fla., and has no visible means of support.]
 
9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.
 
10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
 
11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
 
12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?
 
13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
 
14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?
 
15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?
 
16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?
 
17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?
 
18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
 
19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
 
20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?
 
21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
 
22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?
 
23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?
 
24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
 
25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?
 
26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.
 
27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?
 
28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?
 
29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?
 
30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?
 
31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
 
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Quote from: "ada"
Quote from: "MikeWB"Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened:
Morgan Freeman? Oh come on..
I've yet to find any verifiable source for this, so I can only assume it is an Internet rumour. Tis a pity, as the sentiments it expresses are spot on.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City



FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Ognir"Connecticut Anamolies

1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.
 
2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)
 
3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).
 
4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
 
5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?
 
 

I just quoted a few of the questions for the sake of space but, yes, these are good questions and many of us are asking the same ones.

As of late Saturday afternoon, we finally have a death list: the delay for this was said to be because of the state medical examiner making final identification of the bodies, and then notifying the parents...This is a perfectly common sense explanation and is inline with accepted procedure in forensic practice.

The explanation for not allowing the parents to see the children makes some sense because of the shock factor of seeing your 5 year old child torn apart by multiple bullet strikes, but, in these cynical times, we have to ask questions of what kind of photos the parents saw, and were they 'photoshopped'?

EVERYTHING RELATED TO ADAM LANZA, accused 'shooter' , MUST BE QUESTIONED...Having some background working in mental health, I can state that the clients I worked with who had forms of autism or personality disorders did not have the organizational skills required to do something like Lanza is accused of.

Here is the latest spin from the Washington Post:



NEWTOWN, Conn. — The gunman who killed 27 people, including 20 children, on Friday targeted a school to which he had no apparent connection — forcing his way in and spraying classrooms with a weapon designed to kill across a battlefield, authorities said.

On Saturday, law enforcement officials gave new details about the rampage of Adam Lanza, which ended with Lanza's suicide. Their new narrative partially contradicted previous ones and made a baffling act seem more so.

Lanza's mother, for instance, was not a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, after all. She apparently was unemployed. So it was still a mystery why her 20-year-old son — after dressing in black, killing his mother and taking at least three guns from her collection — then drove the five miles to a school where he was a stranger. (How does a masked, camoflaged man carrying an assault weapon and two other pistols get in the door of a school that was said to have a new state of the art security system?.....Frank D.)

The part of the story that remained grimly, awfully unchanged was what Lanza did when he got there.

Authorities on Saturday released the names of those Lanza killed at the school, who ranged in age from 6 to 56. And the state's medical examiner — speaking in sanitized, clinical terms — described the results of something deeply obscene: a semiautomatic rifle fired inside an elementary classroom.

"I've been at this for a third of a century. And my sensibilities may not be the average man's. But this probably is the worst I have seen," said H. Wayne Carver II. Carver described the children's injuries, which he said ranged from at least two to 11 bullet wounds apiece.

He had performed seven of the autopsies himself. A reporter asked what the children had been wearing.

"They're wearing cute kid stuff," Carver said. "I mean, they're first-graders."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/gunman-kills-mother-then-26-in-grade-school-rampage-in-connecticut/2012/12/15/9017a784-46b6-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html



'Perp' Adam Lanza: There are no recent pictures of him available, and his brother Ryan looks just like him, so much confusion on the 'net as to photos of 'Adam Lanza'



Photo of brother Ryan Lanza being taken by police for questioning...No info as to where the photo was taken: Is this NYC police, since Ryan worked in downtown NYC, or Hoboken NJ police, where Ryan lives?

Just as an aside, for 'internet Jew hunters' Lanza is a commonly used Italian name:
Philadelphia's Mario Lanza, a favorite son, was an operatic tenor and movie actor, and in no way a Jew, being Italian/Sicilian Catholic...Marrano Jews took names of various nations where they settled.



Mario Lanza

One other point, on the gun angle: Yes, this is being spun by 'anti-gun media BS artists':

Sandy Hook massacre: killer's mother was a 'big, big gun fan'


(url) http://www.theweek.co.uk/people-news/50 ... t0fwA(/url)

MikeWB

Here's something a lot more insightful than all these paranoid loony shit that fear mongering conspiracy sites are pushing.

From Roger Ebert.

QuoteWhat's different about about the Newtown Massacre? Not very much. On top of the Columbine tragedy, the Batman "homage" and so on and so on, it still doesn't even have its own Twitter hashtag. I haven't had the heart to look for any theme music that has been drummed up for cable news.

Of course there are already countless reports among innumerable op-ed contributors. I can't even use that angle. Nor can I exploit my use of the word "angle." Nor am I much interested in "thinkers" from the world's pundits and pulpits about what this means, if anything, about American society as a whole. I have no doubt, of course, there have been media roundups on how Fox News has covered the story.

It goes without saying that the suspected shootings "rehearsed a familiar scenario." I haven't yet read that that any big weekend TV shows have yet been dropped by networks. The Sunday morning TV news talk shows haven't yet assembled their expert "panels" about about the deaths of 26 innocent murdered people, 20 of them in grade school. Were "grief counselors" called in to speak with the families?




Is this a heartless cynical way to approach Newtown? No doubt it is. In my opinion the most useful way to "analyze" is to repeat. I would like to quote the following words from an article by me that was excerpted under another byline, as follows:


"From his review of Gus Van Sant's 'Elephant', a fictionalized account of a Columbine-like school shooting, here's Roger Ebert on the media's behavior while reporting these kinds of events:

"Let me tell you a story. The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. "Wouldn't you say," she asked, "that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?" No, I said, I wouldn't say that. "But what about 'Basketball Diaries'?" she asked. "Doesn't that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?"

"The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it's unlikely the Columbine killers saw it.

"The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. "Events like this," I said, "if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn't have messed with me. I'll go out in a blaze of glory."

"In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of "explaining" them.

"I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy."


This is Ebert again. I gather my point is what goes around, comes around.

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Police scanner picked up an officer stating he had a shooter down.


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Frankdialogue said:

QuoteJust as an aside, for 'internet Jew hunters' Lanza is a commonly used Italian name:
Philadelphia's Mario Lanza, a favorite son, was an operatic tenor and movie actor, and in no way a Jew, being Italian/Sicilian Catholic...Marrano Jews took names of various nations where they settled.

You are aware, of course, that many jews,Spanish-Italian-French, adopted Christianity with the sincerity of only saving their respective rear-ends.  Have you also considered the coincidence of 'Sicilians' and jews getting along so well in crime?  Why is that, I ponder?  FYI, Marrano in Spanish means 'pig'.
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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Wimpy"Frankdialogue said:

QuoteJust as an aside, for 'internet Jew hunters' Lanza is a commonly used Italian name:
Philadelphia's Mario Lanza, a favorite son, was an operatic tenor and movie actor, and in no way a Jew, being Italian/Sicilian Catholic...Marrano Jews took names of various nations where they settled.

You are aware, of course, that many jews,Spanish-Italian-French, adopted Christianity with the sincerity of only saving their respective rear-ends.  Have you also considered the coincidence of 'Sicilians' and jews getting along so well in crime?  Why is that, I ponder?  FYI, Marrano in Spanish means 'pig'.

Yeah, Wimpy, I hear you, and have been 'on the job' a long time, so to speak...Jews take names from every nation on earth: Could be Anglo, could be Irish, could be Italian, could be Polish...This doesn't mean that people with Anglo, Irish, Italian or Polish names and heritages are Jews...This is simply common sense.

Now here are some mineral and color names that Jews use: Stone, Diamond, Gold, Silver, Ruby, Pearl; Green, Brown, Black, Redmond etc...Doesn't mean that a stone laying on the ground is Jewish.

From 'Analysis of Anglicized/Americanized Jewish Surnames 101'
 ;)

As for 'marrano' meaning pig, this might have been an old Castillian usage; a modern version of pig in Spanish is 'cerdo' and 'puerca'...These words can describe an actual animal, a pig, or 'one who has the manner of a pig'.




MikeWB

And even if he was jеwish (which he's not), why does it matter? It doesn't.

Seriously, a jеw is not behind every killing that happens. Not everything's a conspiracy.  This is all typical Alex Jonestein bullshit paranoia thinking that's infected so many people. "Something bad happened, gov has planned this!" It's becoming ridiculous. Try to be rational, folks.

He was a messed up autistic kid, was on SSRIs, and had a history of serious mental and personality issues. One day he decided to go on a spree killing and become famous. And all these media whores obliged. He's not the first and won't be the last to do this given that he's getting so much attention that's not letting up.

No need to bring up his ethnic background (Italian, catholic) or repeat some bullshit about his supposed connection to LIBOR and other MK Ultra bullshit.

If you need to blame the jеws, blame the jеws in Congress and jеw governors who are using this tragedy to ask for gun ban laws! And blame the jеw media for glorifying these sick kids and encouraging them to do what this kid did.
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Are The Police Threatening "Conspiracy Theorists" Over The Sandy Hook Shooting?





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