Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

Started by Ognir, December 14, 2012, 02:54:01 PM

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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "ada"
Quotehttp://www.darkmoon.me/2012/israeli-dea ... e-analyst/

Thanks for the many good posts Ada.

Darkmoon is pretty good; here she just reposts the Gordon Duff article...I doubt she knows what to make of the whole 'event'...I'm glad you posted the Harris video, as I give it more credence after actually seeing him...I certainly do not rule out the idea of Israeli death squads in the US, as big Jewish money corrupts all our politicians, who are supposed to be civil servants, but become paid traitors.

Now, pleas check this out, as this is a very strange one, a taping for the CNN's 'The Situation Room' anchored by the Jew Wolf Blitzer...Here, we see a supposed 'parent' of one of the dead children getting ready to give a short video statement...However, something here is strange: We see a little bit before the 'official cameras roll': Wait, I'll just post the report from 'Citizens for Legitimate Government' web blog:

'So, just read the card?' 'Yeah, just read the card.'

December 19, 2012 by legitgov

Quote'So, just read the card?' 'Yeah, just read the card.' --Sandy Hook mind-blower: Newtown shooting victim's father, Robbie Parker, is seen laughing just before his on-camera interview, as he inquires about whether or not he should just 'read the card.' (As in... cue card?) 'Yeah, just read the card,' a man replies, off-camera. --Lori Price 17 Dec 2012 (Video uploaded by wethecom1)

[youtube:e1l6h01a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w[/youtube]e1l6h01a]

Quote"Fathers of slain children do not go around joking and laughing the next day this guy is a fraud and he is an actor and so is the aunt that spoke before him and this entire shooting is a scam..."

At the bottom of the banner: 'Wipe Away the Tears...Obama Mourns Children Killed..."

FrankDialogue

I believe that this photo of Emilie Parker was the very first victim photo released by the media...The father was the one in the CNN video.........................................Frank D.



Public memorial in Utah scheduled for Emilie Parker

The family of a 6-year-old Utah native who was killed during a shooting at a Connecticut elementary school last week have announced plans for a public memorial service to be held in Ogden on Thursday evening.

The public service honoring Emilie Parker will be held at 7 p.m. Thursday at Ben Lomond High, 1080 E. 9th Street.


Emilie, who was born in Ogden and lived there until her parents moved for work reasons, was one of 20 children killed last Friday by a gunman at Sandy Hook Elementary. Six faculty members also were killed, and the gunman's mother was shot to death at their home.

"[The family members] understand that many people in the community would like to participate in some way to honor Emilie as this event has caused the nation to mourn also," the statement reads.

Emilie's father, Robbie Parker, will speak at the community service Thursday, and the other victims of the Sandy Hook shooting also will be honored, according to the statement.

Members of the public also are invited to line the funeral procession route on Saturday, beginning at 11:30 a.m. and are encouraged to wear pink and hold daisies in Emilie's honor.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55496388-78/emilie-service-thursday-parker.html.csp

QuoteEMILIE PARKER, STUDENT

Quick to cheer up those in need of a smile, Emilie Parker never missed a chance to draw a picture or make a card.

Her father, Robbie Parker, fought back tears as he described the beautiful, blonde, always-smiling girl who loved to try new things, except food.

Parker, one of the first parents to publicly talk about his loss, expressed no animosity for the gunman, even as he struggled to explain the death to his other two children, ages 3 and 4. He's sustained by the fact that the world is better for having had Emilie in it.

"I'm so blessed to be her dad," he said

Yes, dad, but no anger or demand for justice or the truth here?...You video performance was certainly strange, big smile on your face when told to read from the card, then gathering yourself and switching to 'tearful expression'...Perhaps I am being hard on you.........Frank D.

QuoteANA MARQUEZ-GREENE, STUDENT



A year ago, 6-year-old Ana Marquez-Greene was reveling in holiday celebrations with her extended family on her first trip to Puerto Rico. This year will be heartbreakingly different.

The girl's grandmother, Elba Marquez, said the child's family moved to Connecticut just two months ago, drawn from Canada, in part, by Sandy Hook's pristine reputation. The grandmother's brother, Jorge Marquez, is mayor of a Puerto Rican town and said the child's 9-year-old brother was also at the school, but escaped safely.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heartbreaking-authorities-release-names-ages-of-ct-school-victims/

I have not yet been able to find a victims list giving the birthplace of the victims...The reason I am a bit concerned about this is because busy upwardly mobile families from other locales might well make better targets for any kind of black ops, as they would have no local history to review, and would be worried about perhaps losing jobs if they take to long to mourn...This Parker fellow from Utah seems like a strange bird..........Frank D.

FrankDialogue

Any Info Available From Adam Lanza's Computers?

No videos from school, no videos of bodies being removed, no photos, no reports from police who entered school, and, apparently no computer info either...

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/12/17/193246/adam-lanza-destroyed-his-computer-before-rampage

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57559947/adam-lanza-computer-may-be-salvageable-data-retrieval-experts/

http://sgtreport.com/2012/12/riddle-me-this-adam-lanza-computer-genius-left-no-online-footprint/

What happened when police SWAT team entered Sandy Hook School?

Can't say as absolutely no information has been released.

Amanda

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control

http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sand ... of-control  (site has lots of additional links)

Niall Bradley
Sott.net
Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:21 CST

The massacre of 20 children and 7 adults at the Sandy Hook elementary school last Friday was one more in a long line of atrocious mass murders committed in the USA. By now, four days later, an official version of events has more or less solidified to explain the chain of events. The familiar 'lone gunman' narrative has once more stoked the hot-button issue of gun control and left the general population as clueless as ever as to why people suddenly 'go postal' and target the most vulnerable members of society.
 
On closer inspection, however, there is clearly more to many of these mass shootings than meets the eye. Very often the earliest reports present information that directly contradicts key foundations of the final 'official' analysis of events. Granted, confusion is natural when a story breaks, but some of the initial reports conflict so completely with the lone gunman narrative that I'm going to compile them here and then try to put this tragedy in a more objective context. In his speech at the Sandy Hook Interfaith Prayer Vigil in Newtown, Connecticut on Sunday night, President Obama quoted the following biblical passage:
 "So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."
 
~ 2 Corinthians 4:18
The traumatised Newtown community deserves the facts without the spin. Everyone touched by this brutal event deserves to know what really happened, so let's fix our eyes on what remains unseen...

A 20-year-old 'tech geek' named Adam Lanza is supposed to have snapped early last Friday, December 14th, shot dead his mother Nancy Lanza, loaded her car up with her guns and ammo, then driven it across town to his former school, the Sandy Hook Elementary School, shot dead 27 people in two classrooms and an adjoining hallway, then turned one of his guns on himself.
 
That's how most will now remember the shooting, but is that actually what happened?
 
All the child victims were first-graders between the ages of 6 and 7. If there's any saving grace to be found in this event, it's that it was all over within minutes. Police were reportedly on the scene "instantaneously" and by then the shooting had ended. Listed among the slain school teachers and administrative staff was the school principal, 47-year-old Dawn Hochsprung. Right here we encounter our first problem:
 

The Newtown Bee (screenshot at the link above)
December 14, 2012

Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shots - more than she could count - that went "on and on."
 
How could the principal have survived to give this statement to local press describing what happened ... if she was one of the first to be killed? Incidentally, The Newtown Bee's article was taken down yesterday. Of course, a plausible explanation is that a reporter mistook another teacher for the principal.
 


We were initially told that two handguns - a Glock and a Sig Sauer - were found next to the body of the dead shooter, while a third weapon, a .223-caliber rifle was also recovered "in the trunk of a car" later, in the school's parking lot. All of the weapons were allegedly legally bought and registered in Nancy Lanza's name. The car was later identified as a black Honda, also registered in her name. More weapons have since been introduced to the story but we'll get back to those later on.
 
Besides anonymous 'law enforcement officials' telling the media that Adam Lanza was a former pupil at the school, they also said his mother was currently a teacher there, that she was found among the dead and that her son had specifically sought out her classroom first. But when it emerged that teaching staff at the school had never heard of a Nancy Lanza, it was suggested that she was a substitute teacher whose name therefore mightn't appear on staff lists.
 
But this claim too has disappeared down the memory hole because it's now known that neither Nancy nor her son had any connection with the school whatsoever. Adam Lanza was in fact home-schooled. Nancy Lanza has since been painted as a "survivalist" who loved firearms, taught her sons how to shoot and was "stockpiling" because she was "worried about economic collapse."


Daily Mail, UK
December 16, 2012

Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.
 
Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home 'into a fortress'. She added: 'Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

'She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.'


 It's not difficult to see that their efforts to insinuate that Nancy Lanza was somehow responsible for this massacre by being an irresponsible mother also serve to rile the large contingent of gun owners in the country, particularly the far right who see a conspiracy on the government's part to "take back our guns." More on that later, but for now I just want to note that all of the Lanza family members seemed to live more or less normal middle-class lives. Yes, the parents were divorced but it was apparently amicable and both put their own needs second to those of their children (and anyway, divorce in the US these days is decidedly 'normal middle class').
 
Despite "family insiders" claiming that he was a "deeply disturbed kid", Adam Lanza, like so many other alleged 'lone(r) gunmen' before him, does not fit the profile of a mass-murdering maniac. His 24-year-old brother, Ryan Lanza, said he hadn't seen his brother since 2010. This fact brings into question Ryan's claim that his younger brother may have had his identity card on his person at the school shooting. Although perhaps the question that needs to be asked here is, why would a person bother to carry identification with them after going to the trouble of dressing up in a bullet-proof vest, mask and black camouflage gear and going on a killing spree ...
 
The live emergency services audio feed from the scene reveals some interesting observations from first responders that have been completely overlooked by the mainstream media. Note that the unedited version lasts over two hours, so the abridged version I'm going to quote from has a compressed sequence of events that are not in real time. In this abridged version, we hear at 1.38' a report that gunfire is still being heard, even though the shooting was supposed to have ended by the time police arrived. The next report at 2.35' says that the shooting has stopped and the school is "in lockdown". At 3.23', the police relay a teacher's report that she saw "two shadows running past the gym" [not "two shooters", as we previously reported on SOTT.net]. This is followed by another officer on the scene who says, "Yeh, we got 'em, they're coming at me! ... [inaudible] ... Coming up the driveway real slowly!" That same officer at 5.40' says he has them "proned out", which presumably means he has apprehended them and they are laid out on the ground, before another officer comes on to say, "be aware that we do have a second [inaudible] ..."
 
Later on, at 19.10', an officer who sounds out of breath, like he's just given chase, reports what I think sounds like "these guys" followed certainly by "multiple weapons, including long rifles and shotgun". If these were found so early on, why were they not included in the initial press reports which stated that three firearms had been found - the above mentioned Glock, Sig Sauer and Bushmaster AR-15 rifle? Further conflicting, and possibly planted evidence was thrown into the mix by 'law enforcement officials' when they published video footage of a long weapon being retrieved from the trunk of a car. Look closely and you'll see that it's a shotgun, not a rifle. In addition, this 'discovery' was made late in the day (it's dark outside), while the Bushmaster rifle was first reported found in the trunk of a car much earlier in the day.
 
Besides the above two suspects "proned out" in front of the school, another suspected gunman was apprehended after he gave chase, this time in the woods next to the school:
 
Police Search Woods Behind School For Additional Suspects: Newtown Connecticut

[youtube:rm4male2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMH3NQ2YXxI[/youtube]rm4male2]

The police are clearly chasing someone whom they appear to apprehend in the middle of the woods next to the school, a fact confirmed by several eyewitnesses:
 
Police Walked A Man In Camo Pants And Dark Jacket Out Of Woods: Newtown

[youtube:rm4male2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovspEgeMXb4 [/youtube]rm4male2]

This fleeing suspect, wearing camouflage gear, a bulletproof vest and armed with four guns, has since disappeared from media coverage. Who was this person and how did he know what "it" was when he protested that "I didn't do it"?

Perhaps most astonishingly, this suspect arrested in the woods was named in an Associated Press report as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza. The original report has long since vanished of course, but you can see it referenced here. This was despite the fact that Ryan had already been named as the deceased suspect inside the school, lying next to two handguns.
 
Ryan Lanza was actually at work in Hoboken, New Jersey, that morning when his name and photo began circulating in the media. And so, for most of Friday, the 'lone shooter' was erroneously reported as "Ryan Lanza, confirmed dead." At the same time, we were being told that Ryan's girlfriend and a room-mate were reported missing, also from Hoboken, New Jersey.
 
So this isn't just a case of mistaken identity, as later claimed when it was suggested that Adam had a piece of identification belonging to his brother on his person. Not one, but BOTH Lanza brothers were being placed by 'law enforcement officials' at the scene of the shooting. It could be that Ryan's quick reflexes to leave his workplace to get on a bus to go back to his apartment while protesting innocence via his Facebook page may have saved his life.
 
Now remember, all of this confusion somehow resulted from a single guy going into a school and shooting children and teachers and then shooting himself, all within three minutes. Surely it should have been fairly easy to rapidly and concretely identify the details of such a crime and the scene.
 
What it's starting to look like is that the Lanzas were framed for this mass shooting in advance. Long before any suspects were named, and even as we were being told that Nancy Lanza was among the dead at the school, we were told that police were investigating a murder in ... Hoboken, New Jersey, where a body had been found at the home of ... Ryan Lanza! An older "confirmed" version of events had RYAN, not Adam, travelling to Hoboken that morning to murder his father before going to the school in Newtown, Connecticut. Other variants had Ryan OR Adam going to both their divorced parents' homes and killing them before going to the school.
 
The narrative has now settled on the younger brother killing his mother in Newtown then going to the school. So what about the rest of it? Do we just put it down to 'keen' journalism that was having a field day last Friday as media outlets sought to bring us the latest 'breaking news'? Confusion and 'Chinese whispers' undoubtedly play a part in the early stages of national media events, but I think back to those news anchors reading scripts about Osama Bin Laden within minutes of the first plane being hit on 9/11 and I think, 'Wait a minute!' All these misleading reports had to have been issued by someone or some people "confirming" to Associated Press and other media outlets that the Ryans's father had been murdered [he wasn't even aware that the shooting at the school had taken place until journalists turned up on his doorstep], or that Ryan's girlfriend had gone missing from Hoboken, or that either Ryan or Adam were pulled out of the adjacent woods in handcuffs yelling "I DIDN'T DO IT" to assembled parents. These aren't just 'little details' that can be confused for other details, these are detailed narratives. So how, or why, would any member of the press come up with such details? They strike me as a set of alternative scenarios that might have found their way into the official narrative had facts on the ground turned out differently.
 
Watch this snippet of State Police Lt. Paul Vance at the press conference he gave the day after the shootings. His answer is as bizarre as it is revealing. When asked whether Nancy Lanza had any connection with the school, he replied defensively about something that is both unrelated and arguably the most significant fact that completely undermines the official narrative: the arrest of a second gunman in the woods:
 
Bizarre Glitch During Q&A At The 8am Press Conference (12/15) :Newtown Connecticut

[youtube:rm4male2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qid9sE51d1k [/youtube]rm4male2]

Most of the initial mainstream media reports have since been rewritten to fit 'new' facts proclaimed by 'law enforcement officials'. Here's an example from Business Insider. The following excerpts are the opening paragraphs from the 'same' article, one earlier original version, followed by the later revised version:
 The massacre [...] was reportedly perpetrated with a .233 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol.
 
The Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of the shooter's car. The Sig Sauer and Glock pistols were the only weapons used in the shooting, according to CBS. Now the question is what kind of magazine would allow a shooter to fire "100" rounds in such a short period.
 Indeed, I was wondering the same thing. How could two pistols do so much damage? The report was updated as follows:
 The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC:
 
The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.
 
Altogether, though, it doesn't matter what type of weapon the shooter used. The bottom line is that it was likely a magazine fed, semi-automatic, with enough rounds to shoot "100 shots" in a matter of minutes, as quoted in USA Today.
 What actually happened may not matter to some, but surely a journalist's role is to at least try to find out?
 
This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that "Only the rifle was used on the victims", a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state's chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had "three to 11 wounds apiece". He also said that the 'gunman' used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the 'shooter' was able to reload so quickly because he had "taped two magazines together." Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.
 
So all the victims' wounds were the result of rifle-fire, specifically from "the rifle", the one we were told in early reports was found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot! This is simply not credible.

photo of guns w/this caption:  The three guns Adam Lanza is supposed to have brought to the school with him. The rifle was left in the trunk, leaving him just the two handguns to let off "hundreds of rounds"... firing .233 caliber bullets that belonged to the rifle... which was left in the car

Remember that only "the rifle" was used on all the victims. If only this rifle was used, and if we try to make this claim fit into the (admittedly fluid) official version of events, then the alleged lone gunman would have had to leave the school, place the rifle back in his trunk, then return inside the school and shoot himself. No one reported any such maneuver on the part of any gunman or gunmen. What we do have, however, is live emergency services radio feed in which we hear that two men have been apprehended and are "proned out" AND live video footage supported by eyewitness testimony showing what appears to be a THIRD man being arrested by police in the woods.
 
We can see how the authorities' hands are tied because they need to fit all the facts into the usual 'lone gunman' narrative. For that, there can only be ONE rifle and a couple of handguns. The problem is that they have already claimed to find that solitary Bushmaster rifle in the trunk of a car in the school parking lot, so the earliest police reports of a cache of long arms being found inside the school will no longer fit with the lone gunman narrative, especially as they're now saying that he had already opened fire as he burst into the school.
 
Could "scrawny" 20-year-old Adam Lanza have stormed the school, solo Rambo-style, while carrying "multiple long arms, including rifles and shotguns"? Only one person was wounded. Everyone else who was shot was killed. How could Adam Lanza achieve such deadly accuracy, in such a short length of recorded time?
 
Initial reports put the beginning of the shooting in the school administrators' office, where someone, reportedly the school principal, had a row with the gunman(men). We know this because someone supposedly turned on the school intercom system, alerting the teaching staff to the loud swearing and commotion in the principal's office and probably saving many more children from being gunned down as teachers took measures to hide the children in closets.
 
One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door.
 
Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the U.S. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police.
 
There are also conflicting reports about how the gunmen entered the building. We were told initially that they came in through the main front entrance and proceeded straight to the administrators'/principal's offices. But Sandy Hook elementary school has a security system with a video monitor, which allows staff to screen visitors before buzzing them in. A "masked gunman dressed in black tactical combat gear" from head to toe would kinda raise red flags, don't you think?
 
Another possible anomaly is that Victoria Soto, one of the teachers killed at the school, appears to have had an 'in memoriam' Facebook page created in her name four days before the shooting.
 
Regarding this alleged 'LIBOR scandal' connection between this shooting and the Aurora theater shooting, there is as yet zero evidence to support the claim that either father of Lanza or Holmes were going to testify to anyone about anything, so for now this must remain just another rumor. I rather think that this is being spread to create the impression of a direct link that can be easily refuted, as in a straw man argument. The obvious and direct link staring everyone in the face is that the U.S. government's accounts of these events are hocus-pocus. The glaring connection between these two shootings, the Sikh Temple shooting and the Fort Hood shooting is that multiple gunmen were reported at the time by eyewitnesses, but they are now all officially claimed to have been carried out by 'lone gunmen'. This logically tells us that the real perpetrators are being protected with cover stories of what really happened because if the truth were known, some section of the U.S. government would be implicated.
 
Wade Michael Page, the 'lone gunman' in the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin in August this year, was a highly decorated U.S. army psychological operations specialist, according to the Pentagon. But what happened to the three other gunmen seen by witnesses? It can't surely be coincidence that Wade was (former?) military psy-ops. The thought has crossed my mind more than once during the aftermath of the Connecticut shooting. Others too have suggested this was a 'false-flag' event, or that Lanza was some sort of Manchurian Candidate.
 
But maybe there's a simpler explanation (albeit more outrageous) than that? Was that really Adam Lanza they found inside the school? Do we even know for a fact that one of the gunmen was found dead inside the school? What we have instead are reports of two or three masked gunmen, apparently all dressed similarly in black tactical gear from head to toe, being wilfully forgotten about at best, or protected by the state at worst. Based on the authorities' persistent but futile efforts to connect the Lanzas to this school, the multiple eyewitness reports of two shooters, the Connecticut State Medical Examiner's report that all the victims were riddled with bullets from a rifle that we're simultaneously being asked to believe was in the trunk of a car the whole time, similar reports of multiple shooters in previous mass shootings in recent years and the media focusing the emotional outcry onto the hot-button topic of gun control ... I'm left wondering if this was actually the work of some highly trained professional hit team?

Was the massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a psy-op, using what amounts to a 'death squad' and a carefully planned mission to terrorise people on behalf of the government, in combination with perception management to shape the narrative and vector the emotional fallout?
 
Gun control isn't the issue here. The US government would long since have taken measures, quietly, to limit the supply of weapons, the 2nd Amendment of the constitution be damned (it's "just a goddamned piece of paper", remember?), if it was really concerned with limiting civilian access to weapons.
 
The psychopaths in power have absolutely no compunction about using state terrorism, in this case organising the deliberate massacre of innocent children, to control people. In effect, this is little different from the U.S. government calls counter-insurgency or counter-terrorism in foreign countries, where it attacks innocent civilians to create the impression that they were killed by 'communists', 'terrorists', 'insurgents' or 'militants', with the aim of generating public support for the illusion that the common people need a strong, ruthless government to protect them from the 'evil-doers'. When the common people buy into this manipulation, the end result, as history shows repeatedly, is an overt and brutal police state.

FrankDialogue

QuoteAmanda says:
On closer inspection, however, there is clearly more to many of these mass shootings than meets the eye.

"There's more to the picture
Than meets the eye...

Out of the blue,
And into the black:
You pay for this
But they give you that.
And once you're gone,
You can't come back;
When you're out of the blue,
And into the black."

[youtube:18u410kn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U[/youtube]18u410kn]

Neil Young on tour during Gulf War I

Christopher Marlowe

And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

Amanda

Yeah, CM, I thought that guy did a good job as well.

Here's a short interesting info how the CT Post is doing damage control b/c "official story" is unraveling and the discrepancies are getting lots of attention (like that camoflage guy they had in custody!!):

Damage control? 911 Sandy Hook emergency services' live feed 'showed early confusion'
http://www.sott.net/article/254929-Dama ... -confusion


And if you scroll down, it looks like that camo guy they had in custody was let go!! So, I guess all you have to do when you are caught fleeing the scene of a mass murder of a bunch of little kids is say "I didn't do IT" (and how did he know what IT was?!?) and the DIRTY CT police will let you go!!!

"Witnesses at the scene Friday morning reported seeing a man in handcuffs being led out of the woods next to the school by police. The man, who witnesses said was wearing camouflage pants, insisted on his innocence as he was being led to a state police cruiser while parents looked on. He apparently was released after being questioned."

Amanda

Here are a couple of videos that make lots of good points. In the first one, he gets at the timing around the announcements about Nancy Lanza being dead, which has been driving me crazy ever since this story broke. I'm on the east coast and was listening to local news/radio when this occurred and they seemed to have the info that Nancy Lanza was dead early on in the day, which totally made sense (initially) when her body was supposedly at the school. But when I heard that her body was shot at home, then it seemed to me that they shouldn't have had this info until later in the day, especially given the Ryan/Adam identity confusion. Anyway, though these are kind of boring videos, I thought the guy who made them did a good job pointing out additional problems w/the offical story.  Also, I'm pretty sure in one of these he presents a link that gives info on Nancy's background (she used to work for Morgan Stanley, so that info about her being associated w/DARPA that has been circulating might not be correct)


Adam Lanza & Mom Murdered! Sandy Hook Shooting in Newtown, CT, Best Conspiracy Theory Part 1
[youtube:3aclgzs6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2uWRXT6zek[/youtube]3aclgzs6]


Adam Lanza & Mom Murdered! Sandy Hook Shooting in Newtown, CT, Best Conspiracy THeory Part 2
[youtube:3aclgzs6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_eD2TsOYY[/youtube]3aclgzs6]

Amanda

Okay, I'm not sure what to make of this, but thought it was kind of interesting when I heard Charlie Guiliani talk about it the other day (kind of funny that the acronym for this DHS program can be rearranged to spell SHEEP!!):

What Was DHS Doing In Sandy Hook? False Flag Two Years In The Making Or Department Of Homeland Security Fail?

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-the ... 46904.html

Here's the CT site:

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetai ... CC83CDC9CC

It kind of looks like DHS's SHEEP program is one of those "train the trainer" types of things, where they train you do develop your own training programs (exercises/drills?) for supposed "safety."  Well, looks like whatever type of SHEEP program they set in motion two years ago at the Sandy Hook Fire Station didn't work, in terms of keeping anyone safe (or maybe that was the point?)

Also, I'm pretty sure that on the day of the shooting that I read somewhere that Sandy Hook Elementary had just updated it's security procedures. Plus, there was that evacuation drill the principal tweeted about.

Amanda

Also, that video w/Robbie Parker was really strange--definitely looked like he was laughing/smiling until he got the cue that they were about to start, then he said seemed to "get into character."

Anyway, for those interested, in the first few minutes of Charlie Guiliani's show today, he mentioned some more strange things about the Robbie Parker family--looks like they were all smiles and happiness at a photo op w/Obama (kind of strange behavior for a grieving family).  I posted a link to the video that included photos of the Obama photo-op in the comments section here:

http://grizzom.blogspot.nl/2012/12/trut ... ni_20.html

FrankDialogue

Sott.net has been doing good work on this...And as far as I know, 'The Information Underground' thread here was one of the earliest that raised questions...Unfortunately for web searchers, the title of the thread doesn't lead to google search hits, as words like cover up are not used...But it doesn't matter.

HSEEP program is named with one of those funny anagrams that seem to pop up...Santa is too.

Still absolutely no photographic evidence or real eye witness accounts pf any of the events...I don't expect there will be either.

CrackSmokeRepublican

From the Telegraph:

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QuoteConnecticut school massacre: Adam Lanza 'spent hours playing Call Of Duty'

The Connecticut school massacre gunman Adam Lanza spent hours playing violent video games such as Call Of Duty in a windowless bunker, according to an interview with a plumber who worked at the family home.

By Barney Henderson

8:29AM GMT 18 Dec 2012

Lanza killed 20 children aged six and seven and six adults at Sandy Hook elementary school having previously shot dead his mother Nancy last Friday. He then shot himself dead. Police are still searching for a motive.

It has emerged that Lanza spent his time in the basement of the family's four-bedroom home in Newtown playing video games, such as Call of Duty and obsessing over guns and military equipment, according to an interview in The Sun with plumber Peter Wlasuk.

Call Of Duty is controversial because of its violent content. The Advertising Standards Authority in the UK banned daytime advertising of the game earlier this year.

"It was a beautiful house but he lived in the basement. I always thought that was strange," said Mr Wlasuk, who went into the basement on several occasions while working at the house.

"But he had a proper set up down there — computers, a bathroom, bed and desk and a TV. There were no windows."

QuoteSurvivor says gunman shouted 'Let me in'
    18 Dec 2012

    Police fail to recover data from Lanza's computer  :think:
    18 Dec 2012


"The boys were fans of the military. They had posters all over the wall in the basement.

"They had one poster of every piece of military equipment the US ever made.

"It was a huge poster with every tank every made. The kids could tell you about guns they had never seen from the 40s, 50s and 60s.

"The kids who play these games know all about them.

"I'm not blaming the games for what happened. But they see a picture of a historical gun and say 'I've used that on Call Of Duty'."

It has also been claimed that Nancy Lanza taught Lanza to handle firearms to instill him with a "sense of responsibility" and even took him to the shooting range just days before the atrocity.

Lanza was apparently so emotionally detached in his teens that school officials assigned him a psychiatrist. They feared that he might harm himself, but did not regard him as a danger to others.

Lanza, a painfully shy computer "nerd" who was said to have had a development disorder, "loved being careful" with guns and "made it a source of pride", according to friends of his mother Nancy.

Mrs Lanza, a gun enthusiast who owned at least five weapons and was the first victim of his rampage, introduced Adam and his older brother Ryan to firearms at a young age. Indeed, she took her younger son to a local firing range just days before the rampage, CNN reported.

"She told me she had wanted to introduce them to the guns to teach, especially Adam, a sense of responsibility," a friend told NBC television.

"Guns require a lot of respect and she really tried to instill that. And he took to it. He loved being careful with them. He made it a source of pride."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -Duty.html
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

FrankDialogue

I see...Now we get the Lanza's supposed plumber's viewpoint:

QuoteThe Connecticut school massacre gunman Adam Lanza spent hours playing violent video games such as Call Of Duty in a windowless bunker, according to an interview with a plumber who worked at the family home.
:lol:

'Windowless bunker'?...Perhaps 'der Furher' was there, or at least a large poster!

Now where are the videos of the shooter breaking in, videos of body bags being removed, real eye witness accounts, accounts from police who went into the school as to what they witnessed?

In any case, it has now been a week since this happened, America is getting bored, the 'events' shelf life has just about expired...'Into the dustbin of history!'

 :down:

The spin now becomes 'fact'.

I'll tell you a short story: I have had an insurance license for most of the last decade, and while managing a small business last year, a father came in with his son, so he could get insurance...As I was talking with the son, about 23, he told
me that he had just completed a summer internship with ESPN, the Jewish sports network...I asked him about his experience there: He replied in the negative...I asked 'Why?'...Hie responded by describing a journalism seminar that he had to take there: It was entitled 'We Deal With the Facts, Not the Truth'...The young man was upset with this.

Oh, yes...True story.

You see how they run?


maz

Quote from: "FrankDialogue"Yo, Maz, one thing: I never made or posted the statement you quoted me as saying...Please, be careful with your text editor!

I have big questions about Gordon Duff, and I have commented such when I see a story on his site either written by a shill or plagarized...SOME of his information is good...But one must always be careful regarding the Internet, which is why I did post the Ray Davies song.

As far as Harris, I was very sceptical about his statements when I first read them on Press TV...However, after seeing him on the actual video, He appears to be a sober man and quite reasonable...Israel and it's snooch pooch, the United States, are the biggest murderers of children in the world...As an American, I feel shame, and as for Israel, the United States should have brought regime change to that entity years ago, AND, if there is any credible evidence that the US President knows as to the truth about Israeli death squads, then he should act immediately to dismantle that 'government' or he himself should be prosecuted and severely punished for treason.


Ok, cool I wasn't trying to say that you said this but you did post the article so you ended up in the quote.

FrankDialogue

Quote from: "maz"Ok, cool I wasn't trying to say that you said this but you did post the article so you ended up in the quote.

Oh yeah, I wasn't attacking you or anything like that...This is just a topic that makes me slightly paranoid, since there has been so much mis-info spun about...And the text editor can get funny sometimes.  8-)

SavageChrist

Quote from: "Amanda"Also, that video w/Robbie Parker was really strange--definitely looked like he was laughing/smiling until he got the cue that they were about to start, then he said seemed to "get into character."

Anyway, for those interested, in the first few minutes of Charlie Guiliani's show today, he mentioned some more strange things about the Robbie Parker family--looks like they were all smiles and happiness at a photo op w/Obama (kind of strange behavior for a grieving family).  I posted a link to the video that included photos of the Obama photo-op in the comments section here:

http://grizzom.blogspot.nl/2012/12/trut ... ni_20.html
According to the link I will post at the end, "Robbie Parker", was played by Tony Hawk, and supposedly confirmed by ear biometrics in said link below.  "Emili Parker" was played by Hawk's daughter, and "Lt. Vance" was played by John Goodman, just to name a few.  

Note that these are not my beliefs or came to these beliefs, this is what Ed Chiarini (AKA DallasGoldBug) claims through ear biometrics and being able to tell what has or has not been altered via photoshop, or other ways.  So this is strictly about him and his research, I am simply presenting this to the TIU universe.  You might want to read the whole link and all the pictures, it does have some tribe members at the end of it.  From:

http://wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm

I know this sounds a bit out there, and trust me, I've just come across this stuff literally in the last few days because of the Sandy Hook shooting, but the "Robbie Parker" character, combined with the live feed where he was acting to get into his role of grieving parent gave it away, and hence I eventually found Ed's website, actually through a poster linking up through a comment @ SGTReport, before it was scrubbed.  Apparently Ed has been on Celtic Rebel's show (who shares the same network home as Charlie G) more than once.

Now the website link about ear biometrics, also part of Ed's research.  There is a lot more to the ear biometrics than just the one link, this is an introduction in a way to ear biometrics.  It is supposedly better for identifying a person than fingerprints, and the only ways that are superior to identifying a person is DNA and the eyes, assuming no contacts are on a person that could possibly change the color of the eyes (example being blue eyed person wearing brown contacts to mask true eye color).

http://www.wellaware1.com/earbiometrics.htm


Again these are not my views, just some mind fecking (channeling my inner Ognir  :lol: ) crazy stuff I've come across because of the mistiming by either the actor, the live feed, or both.  That and some of the pictures seem not to fit in with the timeline of events, like the one with the kids all in line holding each other's shoulders, being escorted by police, or what appears to be police, yet LEAVES were still on the TREES and the GROUND!  I've been to CT in December to visit family numerous times, THERE ARE NO LEAVES ON THE TREES OR GROUND IN DECEMBER, like that, EVER!  And yet this picture was used as part of the Sandy Hook shooting.  Oh yeah, and its really cold in CT in December, usually.   WHERE ARE THEIR JACKETS!?  Sure was mighty warm that day huh?  Anyone remember what the weather forecast that day in Newtown, CT?  I can't seem to find it anywhere...

Also SavageChrist @ WarOnYou Forums

"No lie can live forever." - Alfred North Whitehead

Complete copy of the Protocols of Zion including Preface, Introduction, and Who Are The Elders... http://www.whale.to/b/protocols.html

FrankDialogue

Only thing: If the kids were inside, and if they were being evacuated for any emergency reason, they would not have time to put on jackets: note also that police or security cops have jackets on...As far as trees, many are bare of leaves, and as the winter has been warm so far, some brown leaves might remain...I live in Pennsylvania, similar climate to Connecticut, and trees here currently appear very similar to trees in photo....Evergreen trees also hold green foilage year round.

More questionable is lack of photos or video of 'shooter' forcing/being let into building, any eye witness reports from adults in building seeing a shooter in camouflage attire, no eye witness reports from police who entered building as to what was found or what transpired after they entered building, and no photos or video of body bags being removed...Not to mention nothing from the Lanza house.

I understand that current security procedures from mass killing crime sites like the supposed site in Connecticut are usually marked by a complete shutdown of information, but such procedures only raise questions of coverup, hoax, etc.

Even with 9/11, there were tons of video, also eye witness reports from first responders and people in or near WTC on that day.

Christopher Marlowe

Dallas Goldbug is a dead end and a wast of time and a turd in the punchbowl.

I started looking into his stuff right after the Arizona shooting. DG was talking about how funny the shooting looked, and was suggesting that the whole thing was a movie production. Okay, whatever.

But then I noticed that DG's analysis is pure sh*t: He compares two ears that look nothing like, and then says its a perfect match; DG tends to say that a person who is pretending to be a killer or victim in a current news story is actually a famous actor.

It's a Jedi mind trick: DG just makes really strong assertions, and we are supposed to believe him and not our own lying eyes.

I am not completely opposed to looking into whether the whole thing is a staged event, and that there are no actual murders. But DG is not the person to go to, IMHO.  I  would look into the september clues forum.  They have a link on this story 14+ pages.  

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 389d9f98e3

The people over there don't believe this is real at all. It is all fake: no murders; no kids. Their analysis of 9/11 is that the building was an empty controlled demo, and there were no victims; only vicSIMS.  

I am wondering how the perps could control the story if there was no actual first grade class that was murdered.  At a normal-sized elementary school, the teachers know all of the teachers. There is zero chance that you could have a mystery teacher and class show up without attracting attention. The other teachers would say: who is that? Even having the police threaten people with jail time for posting misinformation on public media would not get around this.  

But I do think Sandy Hook was a psy-op.  There is just too much odd coincidence and suspicious crap.
1. Batman movie hint
2. 2 or 3 shooters, including footage of a guy getting arrested in the woods
3. A gun left in the trunk that does all of the shooting
4. Lonza destroying his and his mother's computers
5. Ryan's ID found on Adam
6. Unexplained entry into the school: "Hey, this guy wearing full body armor is buzzing to get in..
"Who is it?
"I can't see.  He's wearing a gas mask.
"What does he want?
"I don't know. He's carrying some guns. Maybe he's delivering some guns...Did we order some guns?
"Go ahead and buzz him in....
7. Nancy Lanza is a teacher; substitute teacher; parent of former student; no one at the school ever heard of her.
8. Initial story at the local paper is quoting the principal, and then she turns up dead. Was the reporter channeling her spirit?
9. RIP we miss you, etc... Facebook page made 4 days before the event. After this is discovered, the page is disappeared, and a new one is created. If it was just an electronic glitch that caused the page to have a wrong creation date, why scrap it and get a new one?
10. No pictures of any dead people. No graphic photos of nothing.
11. All the MSM and the Feds hit the pavement right away calling for gun control. This is too much like Dunblane: little itsy-bitsy cute kids brutally murdered by a lone psycho with a gun. 100% of normal people think that it is very wrong to do this. (Unless they are Palestinians.) It is very easy for a retard to get behind the latest gun-grab measure.

Oh, and I almost forgot: they already made a  movie called: "Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre" back in 2000
http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sandy ... 00-review/

Rated 2.7 on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217780/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

All of this story being crafted and re-edited in real time, with contradictory bits disappearing down the memory hole.  Smells like a psy-op to me.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

Krag

I did some research and found a very thoughtful thread on this site.  I just hope we get to the bottom of this atrocity.
http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sand ... of-control

Amanda

Krag- I agree w/you on that link. I actually cut and pasted the article and videos over here already on page 5 of this thread. I definitely think it's worth actually viewing the info at the sott.net site b/c there are additional links over there.  I also thought this was an interesting point that author raised that I haven't heard others mention: "But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building.''

CM- Totally agree w/you on DallasGoldbug/EdCharini

Savage- I was recently in that area of CT and that's what it looks like this time of year

Ognir

QuoteAnd as far as I know, 'The Information Underground' thread here was one of the earliest that raised questions...Unfortunately for web searchers, the title of the thread doesn't lead to google search hits, as words like cover up are not used...But it doesn't matter

I picked up the link as is, from twitter
At the time I couldn't find it on a map
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

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FrankDialogue

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"Unexplained entry into the school: "Hey, this guy wearing full body armor is buzzing to get in..
"Who is it?
"I can't see.  He's wearing a gas mask.
"What does he want?
"I don't know. He's carrying some guns. Maybe he's delivering some guns...Did we order some guns?
"Go ahead and buzz him in....

New information from Connecticut State Police suggests a delivery man from Newtown Pizza was making a delivery on the day of the shooting for a parents-teacher conference set to take place: Police now suggest that a school official buzzed the pizza man in without seeing the masked shooter lurking behind him...Coincidentally, police report, Adam Lanza worked for Newtown Pizza as a delivery man.





In continuing Newtown CT news, Congregation Adeth Israel announced that, despite the shooting tragedy at Sandy Hook school,Adeth Israel would continue with it's teacher internee program at the school...Five Israeli graduate internees were working at Sandy Hook school at the time of the shooting but had the day off so they could prepare for the sabbath on Saturday...A spokesman for the congregation stated that 'As Jews, we understand tragedy, and mourn along with the parents at Sandy Hook'.

http://www.congadathisrael.org/

 :lolno:

FrankDialogue

Now, the last post was an attempt at black humour...This one, however, I couldn't make up...Whether one believes all the things spun about Project MK Monarch programming, this one kind of jumps up and bites you...Some would say 'This is wonderful; the psychologists are doing such wonderful work for our children so that thy will have no bad memories...In fact, as time goes by, they will probably not remember anything from that terrible day!'................Frank D.


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December 22, 2012


Sandy Hook Students Will Go To A Replicate School Outside Newtown


Lily Willinger, 2, of Newtown Conn., pets Libby, a golden retriever therapy dog, during a visit from the dogs and their handlers to a memorial for the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims, Tuesday, Dec. 18, 2012, in Newtown, Conn. (AP Photo/David Goldman)


By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN 12/19/12 06:16 PM ET EST AP

MONROE, Conn. -- When the children who survived a shooting that killed 20 of their classmates return to school in a different building, they'll find things just as they left them Friday, down to the water bottles and boxes of crayons sitting on their desks.

They'll have their same chairs and desks, when possible. Their classroom walls will be painted the same colors and be hung with the same pictures. Other details, such as the location of bookshelves and cubby holes, will be replicated as much as possible.


The new Sandy Hook Elementary School will be located in a vacant middle school in Monroe, about six miles from the old school. It's expected to open in January, and students will remain there at least through the academic year with Donna Page, a retired Sandy Hook principal, leading the new school.

"One they get into the classroom, it's going to look as close to the old classroom as possible," Monroe First Selectman Stephen Vavrek said Wednesday.

The idea is to create as much normalcy as possible for children, Vavrek said. Officials consulted psychologists for the planned new school, he said.

To accomplish the task of re-creating the school, photos are being taken of classrooms and desks. One boy left behind his school football helmet, a little water bottle and his writing assignment. A girl left a crayon next to a box of them on her meticulous desk. Chairs are being carefully wrapped and taken to the new school.

More than 500 people are involved in the replication effort.

"It's a miracle everything that is going on there," Vavrek said.

Carolyn Mears, author of the book "Reclaiming School in the Aftermath of Trauma," said things like the school shooting shatter the old world. So familiar objects can be comforting.

"Routine really does help," Mears said. "The water bottle; that's really touching. I would think that would be helpful. That sense of strangeness can be softened by something familiar and comfortable in the environment."

But Mears, whose son survived the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Colorado, said children respond differently in such situations and officials need to be alert to any negative reactions.


Parents and students began touring the new school Wednesday, and Vavrek said the boy with the football helmet was excited to see it.

Their reactions were positive, with some students excited to be going to a larger middle school building, Vavrek said.

The new school will have cameras, police and other security measures, Vavrek said. He declined to go into detail on those measures.

"It's definitely going to be more secure than any school I've ever seen," he said. "Once that child enters that school, they're going to be safe."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-students-will-_n_2338013.html


Amanda

Sandy Hook Shootings.. Private Grief - Public Questions - Sarah



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Published on Dec 22, 2012


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12/14/12 - Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
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Amanda

Connecticut Shootings What No One Dares Say



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CrackSmokeRepublican

QuoteCNN is reporting at approximately 9:20am a gunman opened fire inside a Connecticut elementary school.

The official story has numerous inconsistencies.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Amanda

Okay, I already posted the link to the sott.net article, but it looks like it's also been picked by veterans today and the comments section is worth visiting b/c people continue to add new information:

Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20 ... f-control/

Here's one of the comments I thought was interesting:

Check out Noah Pozner's mom cool as a cucumber, wearing some high beam red lipstick, making false emotional appeals, and dropping a propaganda line about cave-ape Golda Meir (genocidal maniac) being a "statesman". How ...opportunistic

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/22/m ... hpt=ac_bn1


I went to the AC link and could only get through about 39 seconds of it.  Like Robby Parker, she also seems to have a strange way of showing her grief over her dead child.

I posted this info over at John Friend's blog and got this:

"agreed - Noah's mom is strangely calm and collected. She "doesn't know the answer" but obviously points to gun control. Where do they get these actors? Here's a possibility:"

http://crisisactors.org/

Now, I'm really not into the idea that this whole thing was staged and fake. At this point, I still believe a mass murder occurred, but I'm starting to think that at least a few of the parents may be actors.  In order to control the narrative, get as much emotional impact out of the event as possible, and make sure things went in the right direction, maybe the planners of this false flag had to make sure that some of the "parents" were controlled.  I mean, what would the jewish controlled media do if all of the parents of the murdered children were so traumatized and grief-stricken that they refused to talk w/the media?? And what would become of the j-tribe gun-grabbing agenda if some of the parents of the murdered children just happened to be fans of the second amendment and went on camera and demanded that teachers be armed??

Krag

I was at a CT coin show today where one of the show dealers, an NRA instructor said his phone was ringing off the hook with gun owners needing specific competent instruction.  No one at the coin show was skeptical of the official version, so at least there are some people trying to raise questions here.

The problem of disinformation is very significant.  Check out this version of events that was posted over at the JFK conspiracy website:  

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/forum/

THE REAL "MASKED" CHILD KILLER

On December 14th, in the darkness before dawn, a professional hitman wearing 2 sets of black battle fatigues and 2 bullet proof vests was dropped off by his "Black Op" accomplice and gained entry to the home that Adam Lanza shared with his mother Nancy.

The hitman shot Nancy Lanza in the face and took Adam hostage at gunpoint. The gunman removed the extra set of army fatigues and the extra bullet proof vest that he was wearing and ordered Adam to put them on. The gunman then confiscated the weapons registered in Nancy's name.

At approximately 9 AM, the gunman packed Nancy Lanza's Glock, Sig Sauer 9mm handgun and her Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle into her car and forced Adam to drive the car to Sandy Hook Elementary School. The gunman's accomplice followed them to the school in another car.

The problem with such outrageous conspiracy theories is that they just lack any credibility, a seasoned law enforcement pro could poke holes endlessly in such theories.

For me the big questions center on the gun that was supposedly used.  The lack of any motive, though there were versions that Adam met with school admins the day before for whatever reason and may have been infuriated by ill treatment by school admins....That story has had little follow up.  

There should be a lot of evidence available on this case not just official versions.