Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[FrankDialogue]

The coverage of the Brazil shooting, in regard to the actual footage in the aftermath of the shooting, with thousands of people there, and a scene of general chaos, appears to be realistic...Then, there was also the security video.

I would, however, be a little careful with the spin...The alleged gunman also killed himself, then he was described as Muslin suffering from AIDS...Some of the media coverage was from Al Jazeera.

We live in a 'through the looking glass' world.

[memory hole]

diserpearing nose is more compression than conspiracy. :lol: check the original.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/12/22/ac-ct-shooting-noah-pozner-mother.cnn

[Christopher Marlowe]

diserpearing nose is more compression than conspiracy. :lol: check the original.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/12/22/ac-ct-shooting-noah-pozner-mother.cnn

I think that we shouldn't confuse the method of proof for what is being demonstrated.  In this case, the disappearing nose was attempting to show that the interview was done against a green screen. I still believe that to be the case. I believe that many of the interviews "at Sandy Hook" were done before green screens.

One of the more obvious examples was formerly posted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohbvJP6Mcuw
but it has been "removed by the user".

You can see a gif of that video here: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2380118

Notice that the background is bending and stretching. That is because the girl is not standing in front of a park, but rather a green screen. The world doesn't shift around when we turn our backs on it.

[Ognir]

A few new photos, mainstream
http://tinybytes.me/misc/sandy-hook-in- ... cZj6z-U6lQ

[Christopher Marlowe]

Teotihuacan to Stonehenge (Through Sandy Hook School)
This video shows that Sandy Hook directly along the line between the ancient pagan sites of Teotihuacan and Stonehenge.

Teotihuacan was an ancient site of human sacrifice:
http://coyoteprime-runningcauseicantfly ... ce-at.html

Although there have been human skeletons found at Stonehenge, it is unclear whether those were sacrifices, burials, or simply friends of the Clintons:
http://stonehengefacts.info/tag/marlborough-downs/

What are the odds? Take two ancient pagan sites; draw a straight line between them; find a scene of an alleged mass murder exactly along that line?  And these are not minor sites, but both are major tourist attractions.
[youtube:1xn2kw8g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHYEpWO7DJA[/youtube]1xn2kw8g]

It is strange that people are noticing owls in the landscape around Sandy Hook. Could it be true that witchcraft has been practiced in that area for a long time? Another interesting item that I have seen discussed on other sites it that Newtown has recently undergone a major renovation. One video I had posted a while back questioned whether the photo had been tampered with, noting that the "Dickenson" sign had been changed, and misspelled (Dickinson?!?) Someone (Frank D) noted that the google picture was from 2008; nearly 5 years before.

The signs around Newtown now have a little yellow emblem on them. It is possible that the town has new power lines, but they don't show up in the recent aerial view of the "Where's Waldo at the Firehouse":

That little white house does not show up either.  

Another point raised, and posted by Amanda talks about the pipeline built through Sandy Hook, and the massive number of homes that were bought and sold in the last few years. Many homes on the same street, e.g. Yogananda, have a purchase date of 12/25/2009.  
http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/

To summarize: there appear to have been a lot of changes in Newtown in the last few years. People ask how could "so many people be in on a plot?"  I don't know. But we have proof of large tracts of real estate being sold in the last few years; and allegations that a lot of money was spent on renovating this small town. Could some of that money be spent on setting up 30 fake families?  

There is also a TON of evidence of video and photo fakery going on at Sandy Hook. [I found that gif:]
http://gifsoup.com/view/4460186/sandyho ... ness1.html

There is even a video of police storming the WRONG SCHOOL (St Rose of Lima) which was shown along with the video of the alleged shootings on December 14.

In short: Small town; pagan stuff; tons of money; tons of fakery; zero physical evidence; Huge push for gun control.

[FrankDialogue]

Okay, here are some more notes on the MIkePowers/Joyce Riley audio:

Joyce Riley Interviews Mike Powers 1-16-13 TPH Sandy Hook Special Investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8tLX6VQp4

- Powers talks about how in his opinion it was impossible for Adam Lanza to have performed the military/shooting operation ascribed to him.  He bases this on Adam's physical stature, lack of training/expertise in weapons, weight of the gear he was carrying, etc.

FYI- early in this audio "Sandy Hook: Cop in CT on Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab - Part TWO" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBDsGLNfNw  the CT cop says the same thing about this being an impossible task for someone of Adam's build and lack of experience w/shooting


- Powers said that based on the info in the official story (about the type of guns used, number of rounds, etc) this would have been a 165 decibel impact on the human nervous system in an enclosed space and that it is simply NOT POSSIBLE that Adam (or anyone?) would have been able to do this.  Powers consulted two audiologists and both indicated that the damage to hearing and the impact on the cochlear tubes of the inner ear would have been "devasating."  Anyone is such a situation would have lost balance and become disoriented.  (So, I'm kind of wondering whether this is the reason we later heard that Adam was wearing earplugs)...Was this some kind of rewriting of the script to make the narrative more plausible? Kind of reminds me of the rewriting of the script around the bullet proof vest. We heard about the bullet proof vest for at least a week and then it changed to fishing/utility vest-- are we supposed to believe a bunch of cops and SWAT people can't tell the difference between a bullet proof vest and a fishing vest?? I can't help but wonder if they had to make that change b/c they realized that CT law forbids sale of bullet proof vests to non-military or police http://www.bulletproofme.com/Quick_Answers.shtml )

Ah yes, 'Lanza's earplugs'...Not sure when this was added to the spin...Here:



Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza wore earplugs, rapidly changed clips, shot up cars in parking lot: report


By Philip Caulfield / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, January 7, 2013, 10:31 AM


Investigators puzzled by why Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza wore earplugs during the massacre if he knew he was going to kill himself. Separately, evidence shows Lanza reloaded his weapon before the magazines were spent, leading to questions about whether he was influenced by the first-person shooter games he spent hours playing.


 Investigators in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting are puzzled about why gunman Adam Lanza wore earplugs on the morning he stormed the school and killed 26 people, according to a report.  

Sources told the Hartford Courant that wearing the plugs may have been a habit carried over from Lanza's experience shooting at gun ranges.
 Or it could have been something more sinister. He may have been trying to block out the screams of his victims, the sources said.

"It's just weird [that he used earplugs] given what he was about to go do," a police source told the Courant.

"It's not like he had to worry about long-term protection of his hearing because he had to know he wasn't coming back out of the building."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2JDy3cwR1

Curious...This dated before Power's analysis...Power's made a strong point that the sound of the rifled supposedly used would have been so loud in a closed room that it would have disabled any alleged shooter...Note that this is most likely a composite story, with pieces taken from other published stories...If thee was proof that this story and others with the earplugs was back dated, or altered, that would be a kind of 'smoking gun'.

[Amanda]

Following up on Christopher Marlowe's post above, more information on the property issue is found here:

Interesting Property Records – Yogananda Street

http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... da-street/

I've been looking at the property records on Yogananda Street where Nancy Lanza reportedly lived with Adam, 36 Yogananda to be exact. I noticed some very interesting things while going through these records. First, Peter Lanza not only owned 36 Yogananda, he also owned 13 Yogananda. There is no record for 13 on the Newtown property records so I'm unable to see the sale dates of that property but the address shows up in People Finders.

Also, several houses on that street all have a "sold" date of 12/25/09, the exact same date. This is the case for 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 30, 31, 34 and 35 and more. The properties can be viewed here, just type in "Yogananda" street. 24 Yogananda is owned by Newtown. I don't understand a lot about mortgages and property records but it doesn't make sense to me that almost the entire street shows the same sold date. Nancy Lanza's house has a sold date of 2/8/11. Edit (1/11/12) – I looked at some different property records and the 12/09 appears to be related to warranties. The 2/8/11 date of the Lanza residence is a quit claim.

The most interesting thing that I found is that John Trentacosta owned the property adjacent to the Lanza's, 34 Yogananda. John Trentacosta is the CEO of Newtown Savings Bank and is also on the Federal Reserve Advisory Council....(read the rest at the link above)

And here's the link for the info on the pipeline http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... ewtown-ct/

Many of the victim's properties show that at least some of the homes were purchased by Iroquois Gas, the state of Connecticut and the town of Newtown.  This happens to be the street where the Pozner's are supposed to live.

Also, at http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... se-121412/ the top photo was captured in a tweet from a reporter with a time stamp of 8:36 am. You can see an image of the tweet in the video below at 6:51:

Raw Helicopter Footage of Sandy Hook showing the people without a doubt recycling into the Firehouse
[youtube:3i04y6nj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iziyIEnfIMw[/youtube]3i04y6nj]

There is raw helicopter footage and when I was watching it I noticed how the people would walk to the front of the building and take a right, then disappear back into the building. This video proves without a doubt that all those people at the firehouse were recycling in and out. Besides there were never 1800 people around there any way. The fact that there were no children except for a handful in the video says something too. This video has the clips from the main raw helicopter footage of the people recycling in and out of the building. There is a picture of a tweet from a reporter showing people at the firehouse at 8:36 am, one hour before the shooting.

So, if that time stamp is correct, what are those people doing at the fire station an hour before the shooting?  Were they psychic?


Also, take a look at the two photos posted at http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/201 ... se-121412/  
What's going on w/all those water bottles? Do most firehouses have tons of water on hand like that? Did they know in advance that there would be a lot of people congregating at the firehouse? (I actually used to work next to a fire station and there were no water bottles on hand, just a couple of vending machines).


And what do people think of the photo posted here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rappler/82 ... 250891578/
I could be wrong, but it kind of seems like that white "Sandy Hook School" sign keeps moving.

[Amanda]

Below is some more interesting info from Dr K. (And, yes, that's definitely his site. If you scroll down to the comments section at the link below, you see "DrKresearch" responding to commenters). And just as a heads up, if he sounds a bit harsh, it's b/c he's not buying any of it:

Nodinsinfo's List of Phony "Sandy Hook" Parents

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/01/23/no ... r-parents/

He addresses a number of the parents, but here's what he has to say about Veronique Pozner and the fact that many of the families appear to have recently moved to the Newtown area:

Perpetrator to the extreme (#13), Veronique Pozner: Pozner is the resident bulldog for gun confiscation. A dire enemy of the Second Amendment, she seeks to institute draconian restrictions against weapons and ammunition–for Americans exclusively. Simultaneously, she and her ilk, including her anonymous husband, are primary contributors to the notorious Jewish National Fund (JNF), the chief architect of the Apartheid campaign against the Palestinians. Money she collects in her fund goes in part directly to the Zionist entity for projects involved in land confiscation and, therefore, the arming of settlers. She has admitted on the air that money is being sent to the Zionist entity based upon Noah's death, now deemed fraudulent. Thus, she is committing extortion. which means to "obtain" funds "by improper means." Regardless, in the epitome of hypocrisy see seeks gun restrictions for Americans, while supporting the illicit Israeli invaders to be armed to the max (that is through the Apartheid-promoting JNF).
 
Important points:
 •on the Internet there are no pictures anywhere in existence of her holding or being at the side of Noah Pozner, as pictured in the post-Sandy Hook portraits
 •she shows no normal emotions of any kind when speaking about him
 •the first thing out of her mouth in interviews is related to the corruption of the Second Amendment
 •she mentions her loyalty to the Zionist entity frequently
 •she is a dual nation and is loyal to the Israeli entity, while committing high treason against Americans
 •a fraud, she is using the purported death of Noah as an emotional wedge to drive legislation against gun rights, thus acting as a shill for the Zionist World Order
 •let her produce even a single document or photograph proving Noah Pozner is her son or better yet that he died
 •she is attempting to garner sympathy, while collecting more, for the Zionist cause
 
What needs to be uncovered?
 •Where is her husband? What role did he play in the scam?
 •Why did he go down to Florida instead of grieving with her over Noah's loss?
 •She says "what a mother goes through" in pregnancy is horrendous, only to lose a child to an AR-15. Does she have any birthing records or a birth certificate for Noah Pozner that isn't forged? Or is it an Obama-like issue?
 •Does Veronique Pozner live in Newtown/Sandy Hook and if so, where?
 •What is the role of her "brother" the Mossad agent, Alexis Haller? Why is this man from LA her spokesperson, instead of someone closer by, like her missing-in-action husband?
 •Fine: you claim he is dead; you are collecting money, planting trees on stolen land; prove he is dead and stop collecting money on his purported corpse for hypocritical gains
 
(Note: picture that was here removed for verification)
 
 
 
Other perpetrators will be described in more detail shortly.
 
There is, here, though, an obvious trend. Virtually all the culprits descend upon Newtown recently, all within a 2-year period, as follows:
 •Ian Hockley and family: 2 years before the incident
 •David and Francine Wheeler: 6 months (Connecticut Post)
 •Phelps': about 2 years (via a visit with an Internet friend Meg Duerksen, who posted their movement to CT on her blog)
 •Donna Soto: about 2 years (source yet to be identified, exact time yet to be confirmed)
 •Marquez-Green: 2 months
 •Robert and Diane Licata: unknown but believed to be under 2 years
 •Veronique Pozner: unknown but possibly up to seven years; needs to be confirmed
 •Robbie and Alissa Parker: 8 months

Also, what's kind of interesting is that the RioRanchoObserver is claiming that the Parkers moved from Rio Rancho, NM to Newtown CT in January of 2012:
http://www.rrobserver.com/news/local/im ... 963f4.html

[Amanda]

More info on Veronique Pozner here:

Noah Pozner FRAUD Gun Control Scam Veronique Pozner with her REAL KIDS. Sandy Hook Newtown Shooting

Video has image from Veronique's "MeetUp" profile from April 2012, but there's no photo of Noah in the family photos.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Amanada.... can you give us a brief summary of of what you think happened at Sandy Hook at this point in time?  :think:

[FrankDialogue]

Can't really add anything concrete here, but when I first saw the name 'Yogananda' Street, for the Lanza house, I kind of did a double take, thinking 'Hmm, the street where the alleged killer lived is named after a title for an Indian guru. What a strange name to give s street in suburban Connecticut...'

Now this:

Amanda posts:

I've been looking at the property records on Yogananda Street where Nancy Lanza reportedly lived with Adam, 36 Yogananda to be exact. I noticed some very interesting things while going through these records. First, Peter Lanza not only owned 36 Yogananda, he also owned 13 Yogananda. There is no record for 13 on the Newtown property records so I'm unable to see the sale dates of that property but the address shows up in People Finders.

Also, several houses on that street all have a "sold" date of 12/25/09, the exact same date. This is the case for 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 30, 31, 34 and 35 and more. The properties can be viewed here, just type in "Yogananda" street. 24 Yogananda is owned by Newtown. I don't understand a lot about mortgages and property records but it doesn't make sense to me that almost the entire street shows the same sold date. Nancy Lanza's house has a sold date of 2/8/11. Edit (1/11/12) – I looked at some different property records and the 12/09 appears to be related to warranties. The 2/8/11 date of the Lanza residence is a quit claim.

The most interesting thing that I found is that John Trentacosta owned the property adjacent to the Lanza's, 34 Yogananda. John Trentacosta is the CEO of Newtown Savings Bank and is also on the Federal Reserve Advisory Council....(read the rest at the link above)

I do know a bit about properties, mortgages and public records, and something is fishy here...Are there actually properties at those addresses?...If so, the chances of them all being sold on the same date is almost nil: This makes think that there was some kind of Newtown city or government scam going on here, a falsification of records...The first thing I think of is an eminent domain type of deal, where the city, a corporation or some private party is claiming these properties.

A 'quit claim deed' means that a person who has title or is on the deed of a property, surrenders all claims to the property...When were the Lanzas supposedly divorced?...Could be the husband surrendered all his property rights to 'Nancy Lanza'.

Now,a 'warranty deed' means, when you sell the property, you guarantee that their are no claims against the title or deed of the property, meaning no one else says they own it.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Warranty+Deed

You know, this story is generating more wormholes than a collapsing star.

Now, what was that pipeline deal?...Iroquois Gas Company?...I can't comment on that, but I can tell you this, if you aren't aware: The Native Americans from Connecticut were awarded billions as settlement from a federal lawsuit relating to violated treaties back in the 1990s...One of the things the Indians invested in were casinos...But the Indians also got ripped off big time by various shysters and bankers over this settlement...One of the first Indian casinos was Mohegan Sun/Foxwoods casino in Uncasville CT.

The whole Indian scam is a HUGE story that has been swept under the rug...Old 'Skunk' from Judicial Inc. was one of the few people who reported on it.

Here's an interesting current story about how the Indians have lost their money:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46883766/ns/us_news-life/t/tribe-billion-debt-after-casino-bonanza/#.UQYXZ_KLu-k

Now, on Pozner, in any case of sudden death, the city or municipality ALMOST ALWAYS does an autopsy...In this case, the state medical examiner would have been required to do one no matter what Pozner requested...It has been alleged that the deaths of the children were due to homicide...This bring us back to H. Wayne Carver.

I'm going to eat something and then go to bed.

[sullivan]

diserpearing nose is more compression than conspiracy. :lol: check the original.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/12/22/ac-ct-shooting-noah-pozner-mother.cnn

Compression artefacts do not cause an object to become translucent (the nose) and certainly not to the extent that you can see through it to another object behind that should be hidden (the pillar).

[memory hole]

Compression artefacts do not cause an object to become translucent (the nose) and certainly not to the extent that you can see through it to another object behind that should be hidden (the pillar).

That may be so, I don't know, but your point don't make sense to me Sullivan, can you explain then what made the nose dissapear on the youtube footage compared to the original where it clearly is there?

Surely it was lost in the encoding process of you-tube? Its a moot point really, as there's more substantial leads on SH than this red herring.

edit; THEN I WATCHED THIS!!!!!

[youtube:3gedr3r0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdbw6-_RHrA[/youtube]3gedr3r0]

 :wtf:

[memory hole]

This youtube user "PatJack" is doing good shadow analysis videos, wellworth a look;

heres one;

[youtube:18caujyp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkwfAGg3jI[/youtube]18caujyp]

[LordLindsey]

Here is my question...

It has all-but-been conclusively shown that at least TWO CNN interviews were conducted using "blue-" or "green-screen" technology, and my question is WHY THE DECEPTION?  That Rosen character and that Pozner mother would obviously have known that they were not at Sandy Hook, so WHY THE DECEPTION ON THE PART OF THE NETWORK?

This whole damned thing is surreal, where almost nothing is as it first appears, and while I DO NOT believe that Mossad had anything to do with this, there are just too damned many problems with this whole thing for me to be comfortable with simply ignoring it.

Lindsey

[Amanda]

Dylan Hockley parents keeping busy w/his fund--this video was supposedly filmed two days after their son was killed.

Breaking News Unseen Footage Of Sandy Hook Shooting (shocking new evidence).
[youtube:18wrtyhe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhVW6kZszIM[/youtube]18wrtyhe]

[Ognir]

HARTFORD, Conn. — Some parents of the youngest victims of the Newtown elementary school shooting on Monday urged Connecticut lawmakers to better enforce the state's existing gun laws, with one father questioning why civilians need semiautomatic, military-style weapons.

Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son Jesse was one of the 20 first-graders killed in the Dec. 14 massacre, told a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws that there's no need for such weapons in homes or on the streets.

"I still can't see why any civilian, anybody in this room in fact, needs weapons of that sort. You're not going to use them for hunting, even for home protection," he said. "The sole purpose of those AR-15s or the AK-47 is put a lot of lead out on the battlefield quickly, and that's what they do. And that's what they did at Sandy Hook Elementary on the 14th"

A handful of people shouted back to Heslin about their Second Amendment rights.

Hundreds of people, including numerous gun rights advocates, turned out for the daylong public hearing, with 1,300 signing up to speak, according to one lawmaker. Some waited about two hours to get into the Legislative Office Building because they first had to pass through metal detectors installed at the building's entrance, a rare occurrence at Connecticut's legislative complex.

Monday's hearing was the second of four public hearings held by the General Assembly's task force on gun violence and school safety, created in the wake of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School to come up with a legislative response.

A hearing on school safety was held last week. On Tuesday, another subcommittee will hold a public hearing on mental health care. The full 52-member task force also plans to hold a hearing on guns, school safety and mental health at the Newtown High School on Wednesday evening.

The subcommittees have until Feb. 15 to forward their recommendations to legislative leaders for possible law changes.

Mark Mattioli, whose 6-year-old son James was killed at Sandy Hook, said there are more than enough gun laws on the books, but they are not being properly enforced.

But Mattioli said the shooting, which also left six educators dead, is the symptom of a bigger problem facing the nation.

"The problem is not gun laws," he said. "The problem is a lack of civility."

The state's gun manufacturers on Monday urged the subcommittee to not support legislation that could put the state's historic gun manufacturing industry at risk, despite being the site of such a heart-breaking school massacre.

"We have a reason to consider the ramifications on the firearms industry that has contributed much to the state's history and culture and continues to play a vital role," said Dennis Veilleux, president and CEO of Colt Manufacturing, which employs about 670 people in West Hartford.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/01/2 ... ement.html

[Amanda]

Be sure to check out the photos at the link below.  It looks like they have a photo of the front of the school, but what's kind of strange is that what I used to think was sort of a glass panel of doors just looks like an open area w/poles. (I posted on this back in comment 459. I'm having trouble figuring out where the supposed broken glass is) Maybe it's just an artifact of lighting or something, but the photo that these people took of the front of the school looks different. Also, kind of ironic that in the photo of the front of the school there's now a sign saying "electronic surveillance equipment in use"--yeah, too bad they didn't have that on the day of the big event.


An Inquisitive Couple's Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/28/an ... #more-2220

Photos and Commentary by Scott DeLarm
 Edited by James F. Tracy
Posted January 28, 2013


As a basis of comparison, there's a photo of the front of the school at the link below:

http://ideas.time.com/2012/12/15/sandy- ... -a-school/

[Amanda]

More changing stories...

BEST NEWS: Jacobs We practice, they knew what to do
[youtube:2xpsl5ds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHmNztP0Ms[/youtube]2xpsl5ds]

comments:

stinge68 1 week ago- And the story changes AGAIN..really no gun shots heard over the intercom well that directly contradicts an interview I saw with a teacher on the opposite side of the school she stated..she also stated that she heard shots from the intercom and heard them physically at the same time. So is the room they were in completely sound proof? An ar15 sounds like a GD cannon when it fires. 4 words SHOW ME THE SERVEILANCE! Or are they still making that and photoshopping it too like the Emile Parker picture

HistoricalRecordsVLT 1 week ago - Whatever happened to the yelling over the intercom, the janitor screaming put down the gun, then the gunshots everyone supposedly heard over the intercom? And who is at the office answering the phones during all this when the librarian called down there and they told her it was an active shooter?

[memory hole]

My partner and I became fed up with the mainstream media's depiction of what took place in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012. So on January 20 we traveled there from our home in Ottawa Canada in an effort to visit the sites and respectfully approach the locals................

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/28/an-inquisitive-couples-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/

[FrankDialogue]

Amanda wrote and memory hole added:


An Inquisitive Couple's Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/28/an ... #more-2220

Like I state earlier, we need 'boots on the ground' up there...Problem is, if you ask the wrong questions, or talk to the wrong people, you will have an 'accident'...These folks didn't even talk to the undertaker, or the people at St. Rose of Lima church, and they got scared off.

I applaud them, however.

[FrankDialogue]

Dylan Hockley parents keeping busy w/his fund--this video was supposedly filmed two days after their son was killed.

Breaking News Unseen Footage Of Sandy Hook Shooting (shocking new evidence).
[youtube:2ukh6fo8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhVW6kZszIM[/youtube]2ukh6fo8]

I didn't see any shocking new evidence.

What I did see was a pair of 'parents' who are either zombies or BS artists.  :shock:

[Ognir]

Interesting torrent on CC
http://concen.org/tracker/download.php? ... p4.torrent

Description:

Take a look, and have a listen, decide for yourselves. Is this Robbie Parker? One minute Video worth watching for anyone following the sandy hook psy-op yellow brick road which apparently leads from Austin Tx (where the Kaplan family film base is - lots of pictures of them and their friends at indie film festivals and awards) to their relatives in Connecticut.

Coincidence after coincidence begs more investigation, until somehow the mid-December whereabouts of an entire family and their close friends of sandy hook witness look alikes, entertainment industry professionals/journalists/tv hosts, and Connecticut connections can be known.

[Krag]

Amanda wrote and memory hole added:


An Inquisitive Couple's Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/28/an ... #more-2220

Like I state earlier, we need 'boots on the ground' up there...Problem is, if you ask the wrong questions, or talk to the wrong people, you will have an 'accident'...These folks didn't even talk to the undertaker, or the people at St. Rose of Lima church, and they got scared off.

I applaud them, however.

Time is usually of the essence in these situations. It is unlikely you are going to get anywhere by going there at this late date.  There are insiders who may anonymously share information that is the only real hope for clarity at this point.   We have all dealt with authoritative intimidators all our lives as the Canadian couple did.

Where is the evidence??  Lanza's psychological history has been declared to be offbase and private.  The investigation won't be officially over until June we are told.  There should be a 100 page report complete with FAQs for all the prickly questions raised.

Consequences?  How about psychological?


"Now that President Obama has decided the expansion of mental health services must be effected to protect us all from people with guns, we are looking up the immediate road at government programs in schools, among other disastrous innovations.

"Children are concocted as a prime target for early diagnosis of non-existent mental disorders, because in the past, a number of these children, diagnosed and drugged by psychiatrists, went on to kill people as a result of the drugs' actions on their brains. That's called irony. It's also called a crime, in the very real sense that psychiatrists contributed mightily to the killings.

"So now, every child in school who twitches the wrong way or picks up a bubble-gum toy shaped like a pistol, or points his finger at a friend and says Bang, or looks sad and lonely for ten minutes at the back of the class on a rainy Tuesday, or draws pictures when he should be adding numbers in his notebook, or wears odd clothes, or gets angry for any reason at all, or objects to taking a vaccine, or wears a jacket with a small American flag sewn to the shoulder, or doesn't play well with others, or makes a positive statement in class about the Bill of Rights, or reminds a teacher of a little criminal in a movie, or has a bottle opener in his pocket, or dreams in class about designing a rocket that will take people to Mars...can be referred to a counselor, who in turn will refer him to a psychiatrist, who will make some sort of off-the-shelf diagnosis, which will travel with the child for the rest of his life, making the child believe he has a brain problem, and the psychiatrist will prescribe that child drugs like Ritalin, Adderall, Zoloft, Paxil, or Prozac, drugs that scramble neurotransmitter systems and can very certainly cause that child to go violent.

"That is the reality.

"When Obama announced his intention, in the wake of Sandy Hook, to go nuclear with expanded mental-health services across the country, the president of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. Dilip Jeste, praised the program.

"'I am strongly encouraged by the President's recommendations because they include a focus on improving mental health," Jeste said to a Psychiatric News reporter.

"The Psychiatric News article continues: "A new initiative outlined by Obama would provide training for school personnel and help ensure that young people who need help are referred to treatment...[and this new program would] train 5,000 additional mental health professionals to serve students and young adults."

"What we are looking at here is wolves circling prey."

http://lewrockwell.com/rappoport/rappoport13.1.html

[Michael K.]

Christopher Marlowe » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:06 pm

Teotihuacan to Stonehenge (Through Sandy Hook School)
This video shows that Sandy Hook directly along the line between the ancient pagan sites of Teotihuacan and Stonehenge.

I had an intuitive insight that I thought I would rather NOT share, about the rush to demolish Sandy Hook School, and all the excavator work done on private streets.  Too tinfoil or something.  But now that I see the School is right on that lay line, I'll run it up the flagpole, so to speak...

http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/artic ... e-coverup/

McMartin Preschool Case – What Really Happened and the Coverup

The traumatic crimes reported by the toddlers bear an uncanny resemblance to mind control programming, a specialty of certain classified federal agencies and cult cut-outs on the black budget payroll.8 The children are often ridiculed because some of their charges are impossible. Tunnels under the preschool? Too ludicrous to consider. But as it happens, there were tunnels, confirmed in 1993 by a team of five scientists from leading universities.

The unearthing of the tunnels, like much of the critical evidence, never made it to the courtroom. They have been discreetly excluded from newspaper accounts. Filling the void, Debbie Nathan, a widely published skeptic of ritual abuse, heaped ridicule on the tunnel allegations in the Village Voice in June 1990. She maintained the McMartin site had already been "painstakingly probed for tunnels. None were found"9 Nathan's account is a fabrication. In fact, recalls Dr. Roland Summit, who contributed to the final report on the tunnel excavation, parents started digging and prosecutors, reluctantly forced to a showdown, "commissioned a superficial search of open terrain." District Attorney Ira Reiner then declared the tunnel stories unfounded "without going under the concrete floor of the preschool."Once the tunnels were officially discounted, attempts to explore for an underground reality were instant targets for ridicule."10 Archeologist Gary Stickel was retained to lead the excavation on the re-commendation of Dr. Rainier Berger, chairman of UCLA's Interdisciplinary Archeology Program, by parents of McMartin children.11 Initially Stickel sided with the Buckeys, believing the abuse allegations to be so much moonlight for hysterics. However, he'd heard of late homicide detective Paul Bynum, the first to dig at the site: Bynum apparently conducted his informal digging in February, 1984 (Daily Breeze, 1987). It is significant to note he did unearth some buried animal remains, "numerous pieces of tortoise shells and bones" (Daily Breeze, 1987). "There was keen interest at the time since it was reported that the children testified that tortoises, rabbits, and other small animals were mutilated to terrorize the children into keeping silent" (Daily Breeze, 1987).12

But "experts" courted by the press snaffled at the suggestion that animals were killed to frighten children at McMartin and other preschools around the country. It was not until 1993 that a study by the National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect confirmed that children are not only threatened in day care settings, "most threats are very specific in terms of what the consequence of disclosure will be and how the threat will be carried out.... The use of such severe threats is obviously quite frightening to young children and is effective in preventing disclosure. In fact, it appears that threats used in day care center cases may go beyond what is usually needed to silence victims, and may in some instances be made for purposes of psychological terror in and of itself."13

Into the Grotto

Most reporters in Southern California pooh-poohed evidence of coercion, but there was a great, gaping silence when the tunnels were found. "I asked my daughter," recalls Jackie MacGauley, a mother of two children who attended the preschool, "'How could they have taken you to these places without being seen?' And she answered me as though I was silly to ask such a question. She said, 'Through the tunnels, of course.'"

The Los Angeles Times ran a spate of features poking fun of the excavation team until actual evidence of tunnels was discovered. Then the Times ran a brief news item, one paragraph long, dryly noting that "evidence" of tunnels had been found, and never mentioned the subject again. The local Beach Reporter covered the story without a blush: "parents began to dig with shovels, allegedly in an area pointed out by a nine-year-old former student of the McMartin preschool, who told them to dig behind a cement planter in the northeast corner. When parents unearthed several broken turtle shells and a few bones, they stopped digging and notified the district attorney's office."

Once the entrance was exposed, Stickel used remote sensing equipment to read the terrain conductivity of the empty lot next to the preschool. The survey was conducted by a respected geophysicist, Robert Beer, working with an electromagnetic scanner. The tunnel opening was found precisely where children said it would be. Stickel: "Some of the children had stated there had been animal cages placed along that wall and that they had entered a tunnel under the cages." A foreign soil deposit was found near the foundation. Clearing the anomaly with a backhoe, they found the roots of an avocado tree cut to clear a path for the tunnel. The roots had been cut with a hand saw and torn away, and shreds dangled on either wall of the tunnel.

That's the moment editors at the Times chose to pull reporters off the story. All other news outlets rapidly followed suit. But the excavators cleared the foreign soil and followed the tunnel anyway. It "meandered under Classroom No. 4 and then most of Classroom No. 3.... There is no other scenario that fits all of the facts except that the feature was indeed a tunnel," they concluded. "The date of the construction and use of the tunnel was not absolutely established, but an assessment of seven factors of data all indicate that it was probably constructed, used and completely filled back in sometime after 1966 (the construction date of the preschool)."14

Dr. E. Michael, a specialist in forensic geology in Malibu, was called to examine a cavity in the underground passage. Together with Dr. Herbert Adams of the geology department at Cal State University, a ground resistivity reading of the tunnel was followed from the preschool to a triplex next door, a traversing section parallel to the north wall of the school, 5 feet away, extending 20 feet eastward, 10 to 15 feet beneath the surface.15

Gerald Hobbs, a local tree surgeon for 25 years, did much of the actual digging. Hobbs: The children had told two different stories about this tunnel prior to the dig. One, that they had gone through the tunnel and came up in the house next door, and two, they had come up in the garage, which blocked the house from the street. At any rate, the tunnel went in that direction.... That evening I went to the house next door and followed the walk between the school and the house, only about 41/2 feet apart. I went about 30 feet down between the buildings and found a crawl space under the house. I bellied my way toward the southwest corner of the house. After going about 20 feet, I found an area inside the west wall of the house where the floor was cut out. If I remember correctly, the area of floor that was missing was 36″ X 38″ X 41″.16

A total of 77 animal bones were found buried at the McMartin site, an assortment of the osteo-remains of domestic cattle, chickens, dogs and a single rabbit.17 However, Debbie Nathan, the hide-bound "skeptic" of ritual abuse, a scion of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, told another story. The McMartin site, she insisted, had already been "painstakingly probed for tunnels" by the D.A.'s office. (Not so, as we've seen). "None were found. [The McMartin] parents have invested years believing in demonic conspiracies and underground nursery tunnels. (Until recently the parents were still digging. They came up with Indian artifacts)." No mention of Bynum's independent findings. No mention of the dig as it happened in the real world. She reserves much of her scorn for former FBI agent Ted Gunderson and Jackie MacGauley. Nathan seems not to realize that Gunderson and MacGauley brought in Stickel and his geological team to defuse accusations they were directly engaged in the dig. They weren't. The search for the tunnels was independent, and scores of volunteers pitched in.

Nathan's refrain of "no evidence" is hollow. She has been known to contort around the facts of ritual abuse in a grotesque parody of journalism and is frequently blind to critical evidence. Nathan continues to find "no evidence" of abuse at McMartin despite the nightmares, the acting-out, medical molestation reports and sexual infections. The tunnel excavation, she assures with psychic certainty (and a sniff of condescension), is a "hoax."

To come to the point: Nathan's propaganda, repeated in the New York Times and a host of other corporate publications, happened to conceal a classified mind control operation the CIA and Pentagon had undertaken thirty years before....

[Krag]

The NY Times has an interview with the Newtown cops in today's issue:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/nyreg ... .html?_r=0

We're already at a month and a half and what evidence do we have?  And no surveillance pictures or other hard evidence?

[Travis]

This is just a rational observation and comment:

let us say the government's narrative as presented by the JMSM is true and that some kid did kill a bunch of much younger kids. Then let us say the government is sincere in their claim that the cause of this incident is peoples' access to semi automatic rifles, and thus the solution is to ban all semi automatic rifles i.e. by banning semiautomatic rifles this event can never happen again and order will be restored. Let us then say all the parents of the dead kids are also sincere in their claim that the allowance of these rifles killed their kids and thus this is why they have appeared on the TV days after the event and lobbied for the banning of semiautomatic rifles. If we consider this, all the above, to be true there is a serious logical problem, which is: if the government wanted to truly persuade the American public to ban semiautomatic rifles then all they would have to do is release pictures of dead kids, or video footage of the shooter killing kids. This footage would shock people and show them the true horrors of what owning a semiautomatic rifle can lead to.  The government would not even need to release these pictures directly, they could be released by an unknown source on the net, the faces could also be  blurred out.

Nothing about this event makes sense but I starting suspect that the real agenda is not limited to the banning of semiautomatic rifles; even if this event was a complete fabrication  the government could have still created few bloody photos to aid their cause.

I got a feeling this may be some kind of physiological government exercise, at some level, to measure how information is transmitted via the Internet.

[memory hole]

Excellent Observation Travis,I think your on the right track,we are dealing with absolute mind fuckery here.

Could it be the gun law ban is not the main issue but Internet censorship, and as you say, information transmission exercises at play here for evaluating what they can get away with for future events?

[FrankDialogue]

Michael K posts:

I had an intuitive insight that I thought I would rather NOT share, about the rush to demolish Sandy Hook School, and all the excavator work done on private streets. Too tinfoil or something. But now that I see the School is right on that lay line, I'll run it up the flagpole, so to speak...

http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/artic ... e-coverup/

 McMartin Preschool Case – What Really Happened and the Coverup

Very good point.

Yes, I'm familiar with the McMartin case and the discovery of the tunnels.

Just judging from the behavior of the parents and the authorities in Sandy Hook, the involvement of certain media personalities like Anderson Cooper, those of us who are familiar with or have read about these ritual abuse cases must take pause when considering the big picture here.

I personally believe something bigger was afoot here, and I don't necessarily think the motive was gun control.

We seem to have a population of zombies in Newtown.

What we have been doing on this thread is puncturing holes is the 'official scenario' as their story just leaves too much unexplained...This is the 'little picture' or small pieces of the puzzle.

I personally find the scapegoating of one 'Adam Lanza', without any real proof, to be as repulsive as the idea of the mass murder of the children, because, according to the official story, he was also a child...And now that we have examined many of the details of this case for over a month, I believe we were right to ask questions, and probe this mess with a fine toothed comb.

We shouldn't rule out the 'ritual' aspect, whether or not the killings actually happened, or if they were part of an elaborate hoax.

Travis posts:

Nothing about this event makes sense but I starting suspect that the real agenda is not limited to the banning of semiautomatic rifles; even if this event was a complete fabrication the government could have still created few bloody photos to aid their cause.

I got a feeling this may be some kind of physiological government exercise, at some level, to measure how information is transmitted via the Internet.

Bingo...You just won a round.

[Travis]

Memory hole, I am not entirely sure what the main agenda is but I as it stands I don't think it is to ban semiautomatic weapons due to these two main reasons: 1) Americans as a whole do not pose a threat to the American government, many crimes have happened and the American people have not taken on the government. For example, most Americans are fully aware that the government screwed them to bail out the banks and most Americans know they went into the Iraq war based on a lie despite all this the general public never took on the government. Secondly, I don't see the American government being as aggressive as they could be on this issue, like I said they could have released some pictures of a few dead kids.

This event reminds me of the entire comet elenin Internet event and its link to earthquakes. In my opinion the entire elenin theory was a government exercise to observe how conspiracy theories spread and develop on the net. For example, imagine if  someone working for the government makes a youtube video which brings to light a quote from a the film Rocky 6 which predicts The Libyan war. Then it's only fair to assume that someone will watch all Rocky films to see if there are any other links to other political events. The government knows this so they will keep leaving breadcrumbs leading people to where they want. And every now and then a researcher will emerge and steer people in particular direction.

This is my theory: the government is aware that the Internet is means of communication and spreading information. They are also fully aware that alternative narratives can occur based on investigations conducted by 'Internet researchers' . Therefore, this may be an avenue they are pursuing to release information in the same format that conspiracy theories are developed on the net e.g. terror drills, special dates, a mention in a movie etc etc.