Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[Amanda]

Anyone know whether Sandy Hook Elementary had security video cameras installed as part of their new security system?? I kind of think I heard someone say that, but I can't find a link. If there were cameras, something tells me that we will be told they weren't working that day or they somehow malfunctioned. Interestingly, China was able to release video footage of the guy who went on a rampage w/a knife at a school and injured 23 kids on the same day as the Sandy Hook Show:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-575 ... 3-injured/

News on Video: Horrifying Knife Attack At A Chinese School
[youtube:ru5ue115]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNLIsgxI3Hw[/youtube]ru5ue115]

[Amanda]

LOL!! Looks like Americans are finally getting mad about something!! Here's another video response to that "Demand A Plan" video PSA from the whores in Hollywood (this one includes that recent statement from Jamie Foxx about "getting to kill all the white people" in his new film and "how great is that"):

(sorry for the language)

Demand Celebrities Go F*ck Themselves [Extended Cut]

Published on Dec 25, 2012


New "Extended and Unrated Cut" of the video! Just like the DVDs of the films these ***** peddle...

These self-serving whores of the 1% love guns and violence as long as they can line their pockets. Hey these hypocritical assholes "probably" voted for and support Obama...how many kids has he killed with his toy drones and foreign policy? When you elect leaders that commit mass murder, don't be surprised when the citizens follow suit.

These f*cks can stand on their soapboxes all they want...just as long as they wrap an extension cord around their necks and jump.

F*ck You:
Jamie Foxx, Jason Bateman, Paul Rudd, Beyonce Knowles, Amy Poehler, Jeremy Renner, Amanda Pete, Jon Hamm, Carla Gugino, Jessica Alba, Reese Witherspoon, Rashida Jones, Will Ferrell, Sarah Silverman, Aziz Ansari, John Legend, Olivia Munn, Kathryn Hahn, Julianne Moore, Busy Phillips, Jennifer Garner, John Slattery, Nick Offermann, Chris Rock, Cameron Diaz, Courtney Cox, Christina Applegate, Zooey Deschanel, Steve Carrell, Adam Scott, Ellen Degeneres, Mark Ruffalo, Kate Hudson, Peter Dinklage, Jennifer Aniston, Elizabeth Banks, Max Greenfeld,Gwyneth Paltrow, Conan Obrien, Aubrey Plaza, Debra Messing, Megan Mullaly, Jennifer Westfeldt, Selena Gomez, Michelle Williams, Chris Paul, Victor Cruz


Re: Demand A Plan to End Gun Violence - BOYCOTT CELEBS WANTING NEW
[youtube:14n8votv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTM4Xyus-zA[/youtube]14n8votv]

Saw this DISGUSTING video which is a YouTube ad: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg<!-- m -->

Here's the list of celebrities from the video to BOYCOTT:
Jamie Foxx, Jason Bateman, Paul Rudd, Beyonce Knowles, Amy Poehler, Jeremy Renner, Amanda Pete, Jon Hamm, Carla Gugino, Jessica Alba, Reese Witherspoon, Rashida Jones, Will Ferrell, Sarah Silverman, Aziz Ansari, John Legend, Olivia Munn, Kathryn Hahn, Julianne Moore, Busy Phillips, Jennifer Garner, John Slattery, Nick Offermann, Chris Rock, Cameron Diaz, Courtney Cox, Christina Applegate, Zooey Deschanel, Steve Carrell, Adam Scott, Ellen Degeneres, Mark Ruffalo, Kate Hudson, Peter Dinklage, Jennifer Aniston, Elizabeth Banks, Max Greenfeld,Gwyneth Paltrow, Conan Obrien, Aubrey Plaza, Debra Messing, Megan Mullaly, Jennifer Westfeldt, Selena Gomez, Michelle Williams, Chris Paul, Victor Cruz


Demand A Plan To End Gun Violence (rebuttal)
[youtube:14n8votv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdNDg3xcsLM[/youtube]14n8votv]

[FrankDialogue]

Amanda posts:
Political dissident Brandon J. Raub have also had their accounts deleted. Raub was snatched by police and forcibly imprisoned in a psychiatric ward earlier this year for posting political content on Facebook. Infowars editor Kurt Nimmo also had his account suspended this morning.

Yeah, the Raub case was a pretty egregious violation of rights: Raub, an Iraqi vet, also lived with his mother...Some guys calling themselves cops drag him out to a 'psychiatric facility'.

Just too many questions here, with the police mishandling of the weapon found in trunk just the tip of the iceberg...No paper trail at all for Nancy Lanza's guns also raises red flags, as does nobody at any target ranges in the proximity of event remembering Nancy or Adam Lanza...In my city with a population of 1 million and a half, there are only maybe 5-10 target ranges, tops...Yet Newtown CT area, which probably only has one or two, no record of Nancy or Adam Lanza.

Too, too many questions here.  :?

And video with dad complaining that 10 year child couldn't question Obama about 'passing legislation'?...What 10 year old would form such a question, and if the kid did, I am sure the President would want to hear it and maybe make use of it politically.

[FrankDialogue]

Celebrities to ban guns:

Jamie Foxx, Jason Bateman, Paul Rudd, Beyonce Knowles, Amy Poehler, Jeremy Renner, Amanda Pete, Jon Hamm, Carla Gugino, Jessica Alba, Reese Witherspoon, Rashida Jones, Will Ferrell, Sarah Silverman, Aziz Ansari, John Legend, Olivia Munn, Kathryn Hahn, Julianne Moore, Busy Phillips, Jennifer Garner, John Slattery, Nick Offermann, Chris Rock, Cameron Diaz, Courtney Cox, Christina Applegate, Zooey Deschanel, Steve Carrell, Adam Scott, Ellen Degeneres, Mark Ruffalo, Kate Hudson, Peter Dinklage, Jennifer Aniston, Elizabeth Banks, Max Greenfeld,Gwyneth Paltrow, Conan Obrien, Aubrey Plaza, Debra Messing, Megan Mullaly, Jennifer Westfeldt, Selena Gomez, Michelle Williams, Chris Paul, Victor Cruz

Half of them Zhidinski, all of them no talent 'never weres' feeding at Hollywood pig trough.

[Christopher Marlowe]

For some odd reason, that video still advertises the same site as the original one the celebrities are endorsing. I went there expecting to sign an anti-gun-control list, but was disappointed.

I found out some other odd tidbits about the school list of teachers: very few of them have been credentialed for more than a couple of years, but the websites linked to the school site all claim to have been teaching at the school for long periods of time.  As I noted above, the credentialing service in CT appears to list the earlier credential date, and doesn't delete that date when the credential is renewed or a new on is acquired.

I was reading the story about the teacher who was wounded and survived:

NEWTOWN -- Natalie Hammond was probably cracking jokes Friday morning when she went to a staff meeting in the principal's office at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Hammond, described Monday by her best friend as "one of the funniest people on the planet," would have been feeling good because it was her daughter Kayla's 12th birthday.

Hammond, the recently promoted lead teacher at the school, is one of two wounded survivors of the nightmare that befell Sandy Hook on Friday.

At about 9:30 a.m., she ran out of a meeting with Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach. They came face-to-face with 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who had just shot his way into the school with a high-powered semiautomatic rifle.

Lanza's burst of fire killed Hochsprung and Sherlach. Hammond was shot in the foot, leg and hand, but managed to crawl to safety behind a door. Lanza then went down the hall to two classrooms, where he killed 20 children and four teachers.

Hammond's survival is hailed by her friends as a miracle.

Prior to the shooting spree, Lanza killed his mother, Nancy, with a handgun from the legally obtained arsenal of weaponry she kept in the house they shared.

Hammond is "just an incredible person ... a great mom,'' said Anika Sonski, of Naugatuck, Hammond's best friend of 22 years, a roommate and sorority sister at Gettysburg College where Hammond earned an elementary education and sociology degree in 1994. "It's impossible to have an interaction with her and not laugh. And she's incredibly caring.''

Before her promotion this year, Hammond was a third-grade teacher at the school for about a decade, Sonski said. Her career was on the rise, with her intent to undergo the extra education needed to become an elementary school principal, she said.

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... z2GNkAurl2

Hammond earned a degree in education in '94, and had been teaching at Sandy Point for around 10 years. But when I looked up Hammond's teaching credential, it is valid from 11/14/2011 to 11/13/2016.  

Here is the staff as listed on the school site, along with the appropriate credentialing date [From another site]
Notice the vast majority are credentialed as of 2009 or later:
http://newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk.net ... fault.aspx
Office Staff
 Dawn Hochsprung     Principal              Credential: valid from 6/30/2012 to 6/29/2017
 Natalie Hammond     Lead Teacher       11/14/2011 to 11/13/2016
 Joanne Didonato       Secretary              n/a
 Barbara Halstead      Clerk                    n/a  
 Julie Obre                Typist                    n/a
 Sally Cox                  Nurse                    n/a
 Kevin Anzellotti        Head Custodian     n/a
 
Kindergarten Teachers
Janet Vollmer              7/3/2009    to  7/2/2014
Sue Perry                    11/28/2011 to  11/27/2016

First Grade Teachers
Amanda D'Amato[Cannot find Amanda...There is an Angela and an Archangela. Archangela's record is restricted]
Vicky Kazlauskas        7/1/2007      to    6/30/2015
Lynn Monahan          7/9/2009        to    7/8/2014
Kaitlin Roig               10/12/2009   to    10/11/2017
Vicki Soto                  2/21/2011    to    8/31/2013

Second Grade Teachers
Abbey Clements        8/19/2012      to    8/18/2017
Dawn Ford                7/1/2006      to    6/30/2014
Beth Taverna       [Can't find anything under Elizabeth or Beth, E or B; Only Anthony or Doris, both expired]
Amy Taylor              3/25/2012    to       3/24/2017
Carol Wexler             11/16/2005  to     11/15/2013


Third Grade Teachers
Teri Alves                  4/16/2007      to     4/15/2015
Alison Amanzio          7/1/2007     to     6/30/2015
Sally Mackenzie         5/6/2011  to    5/5/2016
Courtney Martin        6/16/2012      to   6/15/2017
Connie Sullivan            12/28/2010 to   12/27/2015
Robin Walker             2/23/2010      to  2/22/2015

Fourth Grade Teachers
Kate Anderheggen       12/20/2011   12/19/2019
Liesl Fressola                6/1/2011   5/31/2019
Kathy Gramolini            3/2/2011   3/1/2016
Carrie Usher                 6/30/2011   6/29/2016
Theodore Varga             7/15/2010   7/14/2013

Special Area Teachers
Leslie Gunn        Art      7/1/2009   6/30/2014
Jaclyn Lloyd       Gym      3/4/2011   3/3/2019
Rosanne O'Neill  Gym   [Earlier Expired 8/1/1999   7/31/2004] current    4/2/2010   4/1/2015
Yvonne Cech       Library    4/7/2012   4/6/2020
Nancy Duffy        Library   [Cannot locate; One Nancy Duffy is in the Shelton District; the other is expired.]
Maryrose Kristopik Music    6/25/2012   6/24/2017
 
Specialty & Support Staff
Meg Horn           Reading Teacher    3/18/2008   3/17/2016
Laura Feinstein  Reading Teacher    8/8/2006   to  8/7/2014
Sandy Zuccarello Reading Teacher  7/6/2011   7/5/2016
Nancy Duffy      Reading Teacher  [Cannot locate; One is in the Shelton District; the other is expired.]  
Becky Virgalla   Reading Consultant   has two: 7/1/2009   to 6/30/2014;   1/21/2012 to 1/20/2020
Kelly MacLaren Special Education    7/1/2008   6/30/2013
Laura Swanson Special Education       1/11/2010   to    1/10/2018
Kerri Sommer   Special Education      7/1/2010   6/30/2015
Lola Aldrich     Special Education       [Listed as "Carola"] 1/19/2012   1/18/2015
Connie Malgrande Speech Pathologist 10/3/2009     to 10/2/2014
Whitney Dunbar Speech Pathologist    EXPIRED   9/29/2009    to   9/28/2012
Mary Sherlach    School Psychologist    1/12/2013   to   1/11/2018
Kris Feda          Math/Science Specialist   10/10/2011    to 10/9/2016
Anne Murray     Occupational Therapist     9/18/2001  to   7/31/2013  [Perhaps legislative change?]
Diane Day         Occupational Therapist     7/21/2003 to   7/31/2013  
Gina Bradbury   Physical Therapist            7/24/1998   to   7/31/2013  
[All the credentials for therapists at Sandy Hook have the same ending date?]

[Christopher Marlowe]

This video [I can't get it to work] shows the various FEMA exercises that were going on at the same time as the Sandy Hook holocaust:

Og edit
Fixed Youtube 20th april 2015

[FrankDialogue]

Christopher Marlowe posts:

"Before her promotion this year, Hammond was a third-grade teacher at the school for about a decade, Sonski said. Her career was on the rise, with her intent to undergo the extra education needed to become an elementary school principal, she said."

...but also notes:

'Hammond earned a degree in education in '94, and had been teaching at Sandy Point for around 10 years. But when I looked up Hammond's teaching credential, it is valid from 11/14/2011 to 11/13/2016.'

There are many discrepancies in the whole story...Sometimes I think that Sandy Hook Elementary School is REALLY Potemkin Elementary School.  :problem:

Now as far as checking on licensing: The best place is that particular state's 'Department of Whatever'...Now, sometimes you have to make a phone call to the Department, because not all licensing credentials are available on the Department's website...In my state, I have two business licenses, but only one (info about) is available online; the other you have to call about.

These online credentials databases are often inaccurate, and I never checked exactly how these websites acquire these databases, as most states don't sell these lists, to my knowledge.

You remember that YouTube video posted titled 'I Am Adam Lanza's Doctor' with the woman psychiatrist?...I tried to check on her license on the Connecticut Department of Health's website, but couldn't find the right web page for physician licenses, so I just called and got the confirmation and expiration date from a clerk in the office in Hartford...Her CT  license expired in 2005.

"This video [I can't get it to work] shows the various FEMA exercises that were going on at the same time as the Sandy Hook holocaust"

Yeah: DHS drill ('Planning for Children in Disasters") going on in the town the SAME DAY!

Talk about creepy coincidences...

[Amanda]

CM- great find w/that video of the FEMA exercises. I don't know how I missed it before. I went to the main page http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetai ... CC83CDC9CC and all I saw was the date at the top--so I just assumed that all they did were some exercises two years ago (I totally missed that link at the bottom for the calendar of events here:  http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/calendar.asp

And here's the article about that other "coincidence":


Sheriff: Putnam Officials to Talk School Safety This Afternoon

http://southeast.patch.com/articles/she ... -afternoon

Part of the meeting will be closed to the public and the media.

December 18, 2012

Four days after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, area authorities, local elected leaders and school officials are slated to come together for a discussion on civic and school security in Putnam Tuesday afternoon.

Part of the meeting will be closed to the public and the media "to allow officials to discuss specific security issues that, if disclosed publicly, would imperil public safety," Putnam County Sheriff Donald B. Smith said. It's happening at the Sheriff's Office at 3 County Center in Carmel, and members of the press are slated to arrive at about 1:15 p.m., Smith announced Monday.

Here is part of a statement Smith released earlier in the day:

Putnam County Sheriff Donald B. Smith reports that security procedures have been enhanced at schools and other pubic facilities in Putnam County following the tragic violence that occurred last Friday at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in nearby Newtown, Connecticut. The Sheriff emphasized that the increased security efforts are being implemented solely as a precaution and not in response to any specific threats.

The Sheriff noted that comprehensive safety procedures have long been in place at area schools and public facilities, but that Friday's tragedy in neighboring Fairfield County has prompted heightened security awareness and increased preparedness in Putnam County, as it has in many communities across the nation.

"Putnam County law enforcement agencies, school officials and local government leaders are working together to take appropriate and prudent steps to guard against any potential copy-cat incident here," said the Sheriff.

In the years following the infamous school shooting incident at Columbine, Colorado, law enforcement agencies and local school districts in Putnam County and across America developed plans and protocols to safeguard against and respond to similar acts of school violence. Since Columbine, new tactics and training have been devised and implemented for law enforcement officers for responding to situations of active shooters in schools.

By grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team ("ERT") happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school. The ERT is comprised of specially trained and heavily armed officers from the Sheriff's Office and the Carmel and Kent Police Departments.  When news broke of the Newtown shooting, the Putnam County ERT commander called Newtown Police and offered to have the ERT respond to the Sandy Hook school, but that response was not needed because Connecticut police had already secured the scene.

As information circulated about the Newtown violence, the Sheriff's Office notified school district officials in Putnam County. The Sheriff's Office and local police departments dispatched patrols to establish a security presence at area elementary schools and to augment the security already in place at most of the high schools and middle schools in the County, where deputy sheriffs are regularly assigned as school resource officers ("SROs"). Over the weekend, too, the Sheriff's Office coordinated with local government officials to provide deputies and plainclothes investigators for security at several civic events throughout the county.  

[Krag]

"NewsTimes" is reporting today the first lawsuits filed on behalf of a little girl who was traumatized by what she heard over the school intercom system....

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... 153157.php

"Attorney Irving Pinsky sent a notice of claim and request for permission to sue the state to Claims Commissioner J. Paul Vance Jr. on Thursday on behalf of "Jill Doe, a minor child of six years of age and resident of Newtown, Connecticut."
He is asking for $100 million on the child's behalf and brings the claim through the child's parents, cited as "John and Jane Doe."
"I'm not releasing her name or her parents' names," Pinsky said Friday. "She's a little girl and she's suffered enough."
Pinsky said he was contacted by the girl's parents within days of the shootings and agreed to take the case because "we must stand together to protect our children. If we don't, nothing will change'."

Only 100 million?  I mean that little girl will be traumatized for life...

As I have said the money equation here is the real story.

"Veterens Today" has a good article on the Sandy Hook story:  http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27 ... un-psy-op/

[FrankDialogue]

Irving Pinsky

[Amanda]

Krag- thanks for the info on the lawsuit--not sure what to make of it yet, but it's VERY interesting, especially since I'm kind of leaning in the direction that this was staged or part of a drill. Can't help but wonder what the kid heard on the intercom. First thing that came to me was whether she could have heard something inconsistent w/the offical story--maybe this is more like blackmail/extortion?? And the whole thing kind of doesn't make sense in that aren't schools supposed to use intercoms or walkie-talkies as part of their security/warning system, like to let the teachers know there is an intruder/shooter?


Also, just found this, but am not sure what to make of it. On the FEMA/HSEEP(sheep!!) website  https://hseep.dhs.gov/hseep_vols/defaul ... =3.3.2.5.1  there are links to an "Actor Waiver Form" and an "Actor Information Sheet." I also thought it was kind of interesting that there was a link to "Actors Tags" (but nothing was there) b/c the other day I was on the septemberclues forum site for the Sandy Hook Show and I saw a photo w/a woman wearing a nametag--this struck me as kind of strange. I mean, were they giving out nametags during a supposed crisis?? Anyway, thought it was interesting. If I can find the photo, I'll post a link.

[Amanda]

okay, so here's the page of the september clues forum on the sandy hook show that had the photo:

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1521

Now, if you scroll down to the second post, there's a photo of a woman wearing a nametag "Alicia"--isn't that strange? Unless, maybe she was coming from somewhere else?? Part of me was wondering whether this was really a photo from the CT event. If you click on the link below, it takes you to a slide show on an Italian site and they are saying those photos are of the CT shooting. And when you're on the slide show site, the next photo after the Alicia photo is kind of strange. I mean, if you're a parent racing to your kid's school, where there's been a mass shooting, do you really need to go make a coffee run?? ...I don't know, this whole thing is really beyond bizarre

[Amanda]

interesting how the MSM completely ignored this shooting:

San Antonio Theater Shooting

http://hardnoxandfriends.wordpress.com/ ... -shooting/


by Hardnox on December 28, 2012

On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!

Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?

There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.

Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

[Amanda]

Not sure how this fits into the story, but this seems to suggest that there were real bullets fired on the day of the Sandy Hook incident:

Saturday, December 29, 2012
SANDY HOOK - BULLETS HIT TEACHER'S CAR; ROUSSEAU AND HOCHSPRUNG

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/12/s ... s-car.html (go to original article for more info, photos, and links)

Lauren Rousseau was reportedly killed in the Sandy hook shootings. According to Lauren's mother, Lauren's 2004 Honda Civic - parked outside the school - was riddled with bullets when the authorities removed the vehicle.  The official story is that Lauren's car was hit by bullets shot from inside the school. There was no record of any bullet holes in the windows of the school.


Lauren Rousseau's Car Riddled With Bullet Holes In Sandy Hook Parking Lot?
http://usahitman.com/lrcrbh/

(photos of bullet holes in car)

The official story: Lauren's car was struck by bullets shot from inside the building. There was no record of any bullet holes in the windows of the school... Here is another image that shows the angle which the gun had to be fired: (photo of school and car in parking lot)

 Now with your knowledge of the angle her car would have been parked at in relation to the shooter, how is it possible for a bullet hole to penetrate the side of her car at the trajectory shown above? Was there no car beside her? This is just one of the many mysteries about the official story. More research coming in different articles, stay tuned.

[Amanda]

Also on Lauren Rousseau, looks like she was new to the scene as well and only started substitute teaching at the school 6 weeks ago:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1223210

[Amanda]

Okay, this isn't major, but I thought it was worth posting b/c it demonstrates that RT is also dirty/controlled.  At about 3 minutes, PCR tries to point out the discrepencies in the Sandy Hook story, then the interviewer interrupts and directs the conversation elsewhere. Then at 4 minutes, PCR was able to bring it back and make his point about the inconsistencies in the offical story. At that point, the interviewer basically jumps in and says inconsistencies don't matter and quickly shifts the focus back to the issue of 20 dead kids.  

RT-Paul Craig Roberts-Going After Guns: 'You can't have police state & armed population'
[youtube:1oiov5ql]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm_rqbFZxcc[/youtube]1oiov5ql]


I already posted this PCR article by itself, but here are the excerpts that pertain to Sandy Hook:


Paul Craig Roberts: Agenda prevails over truth
http://www.sott.net/article/255357-Paul ... over-truth

Consider the Sandy Hook school shooting. This shooting serves as an excuse for "progressives" to express their hatred of guns and the NRA and to advance their gun control agenda. Few if any of those hyperventilating over the tragedy know any of the parents of the murdered children. They have shown no similar response to the US government's murder of countless thousands of Muslim children. The Clinton regime alone killed 500,000 Iraqi children with illegal sanctions, and Clinton's immoral secretary of state, a feminist hero, said that she thought the sanctions were worth the cost of one half million dead Iraqi children.
 
Suddenly, 20 US children become of massive importance to "progressives." Why? Because the deaths foster their agenda - gun control in the US.
 
When I hear people talk about "gun violence," I wonder what has happened to language. A gun is an inanimate object. An inanimate object cannot cause violence. Humans cause violence. The relevant question is: why do humans cause violence? This obvious question seldom gets asked. Instead, inanimate objects are blamed for the actions of humans.
 
In one of its reports on the Sandy Hook shooting, Time noted that such events "inevitably reopen debates about gun control, or more tenuously lead people to complain about American culture itself. Yet on the very same day, a 36-year-old Chinese man attacked 22 children with a knife at a primary school in China, suggesting that there is a critical factor with mass homicides that gets far less attention." That factor, "the core of these events," is mental health and "our failure to address it as a society." http://ideas.time.com/2012/12/15/sandy- ... =obnetwork
 
That factor remains unaddressed, because the agenda-driven media is determined to use the Sandy Hook shootings as a means of achieving gun control. One wonders if there is a "knife control" agenda in China. What follows is not an argument that the report of the Sandy Hook shootings is a hoax. What follows is an argument that suspicions are created when agenda takes precedence over reporting and discrepancies in reports are left unresolved.
 
Agenda-driven news is the reason that apparent inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook story were not investigated or explained. According to some reports, the medical examiner said the children were shot with a rifle, but other reports say the accused was found dead inside the school with two pistols and that a rifle was found outside in the car. The police capture a man in the woods who says "I didn't do it." How would a person in the woods know what has just happened? Who was the man? Was he investigated and released? Will we ever know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovspEgeMXb4
 
Some reports say the school was locked and admission is via security camera and being buzzed in. Why would a heavily armed person be buzzed in? Other reports say he shot his way in. Why wouldn't such a commotion have alerted the school?
 
Another puzzle is the video of a father whose child has supposedly been shot to pieces. Prior to the interview he is caught on camera laughing and joking, and then, like an actor, he pulls his face and voice into a presentation of grief for the interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w

The spokesman for the Connecticut State Police is anxious to control the story, warns social media against posting information contrary to official information, but provides little information, refusing to answer most questions. The usual "ongoing investigation" is invoked, but Lanza has already been declared to be the killer and the number of dead reported. About the only hard information that emerges is that the police are investigating where every component of the weapons was manufactured. The relevance to the shooting of where the components of the weapons were manufactured is not explained. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1221554

The medical examiner's press conference is weird. He is incoherent, unsure of what he is supposed to say, hasn't answers to questions he should have, and defers to police.
 
Perhaps the best way to avoid fueling suspicion is for public officials not to hold press conferences until they are prepared to answer the relevant questions.
 
And where are the bodies? Like the alleged murder of Osama bin Laden by a SEAL, the crucial evidence is not provided. Paul Vance, the Connecticut State Police spokesman, said that the "victims' bodies were removed from the school overnight" and that detectives "were able to positively identify all of the victims and make some formal notification to all of the families of the victims." http://www.kens5.com/news/Sandy-Hook-vi ... l?ref=next
 
Allegedly, no parent wanted to see the body of their dead child, but how do you know it is your child if you do not see the body? It is a strange kind of closure when it is provided to parents by impersonal detectives. Has anyone seen a body other than a state medical examiner and a few detectives? Where are the media's films of body bags being carried out of the school? Why would Obama's gun control agenda forego the propaganda of a procession of body bags being carried out of a school?
 
Perhaps the sensitivity issue prevailed, but with all the suspicion that already exists about the government and its claims, why fuel the suspicion by withholding visual evidence of the tragedy?
 
There are reports that when emergency medical help arrived at the school, the medical personnel were denied access to the children on the grounds that there were no survivors and the scene was too gruesome. Yet, there is a conflicting story that one six-year old girl had the presence of mind to play dead and walked out of her classroom unscathed. If the story is true, how do we know that other survivors did not bleed to death from wounds because the emergency medical personnel were denied access? Did police exercise more control over the scene than was warranted? http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... rvivor-her
 
It doesn't seem to matter that questions are not answered and discrepancies are not resolved. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy- ... on/5316776 The story is useful to the gun control agenda. Progressives, in order to achieve their agenda, are willing adjuncts of the police state. The facts of the shooting are less important than the use of the incident to achieve their agenda.
 
Probably there are answers to the questions. Moreover, the news reports that are the basis for questions could be incorrect. But why aren't the answers provided and confusions cleared up? Instead, people who ask obvious questions are dismissed as "insensitive to the tragedy" or as "conspiracy kooks." This in itself deepens suspicion.
 
The Colorado movie theater shooting has its own unresolved discrepancies. One eyewitness claimed that there were two shooters. Apparently, the suspect was captured sitting in a car in the theater parking lot, which seems strange. There are claims that the accused, a graduate student in neuroscience, was involved with the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency in mind control research and that he doesn't remember doing the shooting.
 
Do we actually know? Apparently not. Wouldn't it be preferable to investigate these claims rather than to leave them as unanswered sources of suspicion? The loose ends of the Colorado movie shooting contribute to the suspicions caused by news reports of the Sandy Hook shootings.
 
A shooting incident occurs. The government puts out a story. Agendas form and take the place of the story. Unresolved issues disappear in heated dispute over agendas. Gun control advocates blame guns, and Second Amendment defenders blame other factors.
 
When the media permit agenda to take precedence over news, people lose confidence in the media and distrust spreads deeper into society. If the media and the government are opposed to conspiracy theories, they should not foster the theories by mishandling the news.

[FrankDialogue]

Paul Craig Roberts is one of the topmost journalists and analysts alive today.

[Krag]

Here's the paragraph on the search for the Lanza's shooting practice location:

"It isn't clear where Ms. Lanza used her guns. Dean Price, director of the Wooster Mountain Shooting Range in nearby Danbury, said he spent several hours with federal firearms agents late Friday night going through the last two months of his sign-in sheets. They didn't find the Lanzas.


"But some neighbors noted that the Paugussett State Forest, a few blocks from Ms. Lanza's home, was frequented by hunters during hunting season and appeared occasionally to be used for target practice."  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ting+range

The Wikipedia article has a lengthy piece on specfics of supposedly which guns and ammo were found and the chain of events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook ... l_shooting

[Amanda]

I haven't been able to find any new info about Ryan Lanza and whether he's still in custody (supposedly for his own protection???), but I did find this:

Lanza Family: Ryan's 'RIP' Posts Are Fake

'I am a victim,' says older brother of shooter

http://www.newser.com/story/159794/ryan ... -adam.html

Newser) – As the last Sandy Hook victims were laid to rest, the older brother of shooter Adam Lanza posted his own tribute to the tragedy, mourning the loss of two members of his family—or did he? The Lanza family claims that a Ryan Lanza Facebook page is a hoax, but the New York Post reports that Ryan wrote beneath a picture of mom Nancy Lanza: "RIP. I miss you mom. I love you so much. You will be always in my heart. -Ryan." He was no less effusive with his brother, writing under a photo of Adam Lanza, "RIP. I will miss you bro. I will always love you as long as I live."

The Post notes that though Ryan Lanza also paid tribute to his brother's victims ("You all will be truly be missed. God Bless."), his posts stirred up some hate, with one person calling Adam Lanza "scum of the Earth." Responded Ryan Lanza: "I am so tired of people blaming me for something my brother did. I love Adam, (he's) my brother. ... But you have no right to call my brother names when he isn't here no more. Just let my brother rest in peace. Please. Respect that." "I am a victim," Ryan Lanza tells the Post, adding that he lost "my mom and brother."

[Amanda]

Since Paul Craig Robert also brought up the discrepancies in the Batman shooting, I thought this might be a helpful refresher:

Flashback: Evidence of multiple shooters at Aurora Theater massacre covered up

http://www.sott.net/article/255383-Evid ... covered-up

(I actually totally missed this info on multiple shooters involved in the Batman shooting--I think I got too distracted by all the info out there about mind-control and DARPA stuff)

[Amanda]

Sandy Hook False Flag Psy-op - Ken O'Keefe - TJP

Published on Dec 30, 2012

Governments should fear the people, not the other way around. Let us disarm the worst criminals of all, the banksters, the corrupt governments, the corporations, the lot.

[FrankDialogue]

Here's the paragraph on the search for the Lanza's shooting practice location:

"It isn't clear where Ms. Lanza used her guns. Dean Price, director of the Wooster Mountain Shooting Range in nearby Danbury, said he spent several hours with federal firearms agents late Friday night going through the last two months of his sign-in sheets. They didn't find the Lanzas.


"But some neighbors noted that the Paugussett State Forest, a few blocks from Ms. Lanza's home, was frequented by hunters during hunting season and appeared occasionally to be used for target practice."  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ting+range

The Wikipedia article has a lengthy piece on specfics of supposedly which guns and ammo were found and the chain of events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook ... l_shooting

Krag, Amanda & you on the case like brown on rice.  

So, apparently, no kind of trace at shooting ranges...I read some initial reports on 'neighbors' saying that 'Nancy Lanza frequently went to target ranges'...This turns out to be a lie.

And now, 'some neighbors' say a state forest or park 'was sometimes used by hunters or people using it as a target range'...Well, anybody who go for a hike or maybe just go to this forest for bird watching could be open to suspicion.

I didn't read the Wiki account because i don't trust Wiki as far as I can throw them...I only go to Wiki for information about things of a non controversial nature, and only because google ALWAYS put them at the top of search...But maybe there was some information there?

Yes, yes, I know about 'search engine algorithms'.  

[Krag]

Thanks, Frank for your observations.

The reason I mentioned the Wikipedia article is that is apparently the official version of events.  There has been a significant news blackout with the exception for small news coming out from time to time.

[FrankDialogue]

New Hampshire Funeral Home Claims Body of Nancy Lanza, Newtown Gunman's Mother

Published: Wednesday, December 19, 2012




By Joe Amarante
New Haven Register
http://www.countytimes.com/articles/201 ... 528438.prt

© 2012 The Litchfield County Times, a Journal Register Property



Newtown gunman Adam Lanza's father claims body from funeral home
Weeks after mass shooting, Peter Lanza takes his son's body for private burial as Obama steps up pressure on gun control

 Monday 31 December 2012 11.41 EST



The body of a gunman who killed 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school has been claimed by his father, a spokesman for the family said Monday.

The remains of Adam Lanza – who took his own life after going on an armed rampage at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown on December 14 – were reportedly removed from a funeral home some days ago to be transported to an undisclosed burial site.

Earlier this month, a private funeral took place for Nancy Lanza, the gunman's mother and the first of his 27 victims.

She was killed in bed at the home she shared with her son. The 20-year-old gunman, armed with weapons legally purchased by his mother, including an assault rifle, then travelled to the nearby Sandy Hook school.

Peter Lanza, who was divorced from Nancy Lanza and lived at a separate location in Connecticut, claimed his son's body at some point over the past few days. A family spokesman did not say what plans the family might have for a funeral service.

Authorities have yet to offer a motive for the killings. State police say they have been exploring all aspects of Adam Lanza's life including his education, family history and medical treatment for clues.

It could be months before investigators produce a final report into the school massacre.

Meanwhile the incident – which followed on from a number of mass shootings to scar the US during 2012 – has reignited debate over America's lax gun controls.

On Sunday, President Barack Obama said he hoped to get new legislation on gun controls through Congress by the end of 2013.

Having previously been reluctant to enter debate on what is seen in America as a politically sensitive topic, Obama vowed to put his "full weight" behind a package of measures to tackle gun violence.

Shortly after the Sandy Hook massacre he assigned vice president Joe Biden to lead a task force looking at new legislation.

"I'd like to get it done in the first year. I will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that Joe Biden's task force is putting together as we speak. And so this is not something that I will be putting off," he told NBC's Meet the Press.

He also made guarded remarks aimed at the influential lobbying group National Rifle Association.

The pro-gun group has called for armed guards to be stationed in every school across America – a proposal that has been roundly condemned as unworkable, costly and ineffective by advocates of greater gun controls.

Obama fell well short of such criticism, but did say that he viewed the NRA's plan with "scepticism".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/31/father-newtown-adam-lanza-body

Another rotten UK 'press organ' gives this:

Connecticut school shooting: Gun maniac Adam Lanza to be cremated in secret
There will be no ceremony for the 20-year-old and his remains will be hidden

Read the rest, if you must:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/adam-lanza-will-be-cremated-in-secret-and-his-remains-1503083

Something a TINY BIT more thoughtful:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/148848/adam_lanzas_dad_should_be

[Amanda]

LOL!!

we petition the obama administration to:

Eliminate armed guards for the President, Vice-President, and their families, and establish Gun Free Zones around them

Gun Free Zones are supposed to protect our children, and some politicians wish to strip us of our right to keep and bear arms. Those same politicians and their families are currently under the protection of armed Secret Service agents. If Gun Free Zones are sufficient protection for our children, then Gun Free Zones should be good enough for politicians.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... s/6RDGkxLK

[FrankDialogue]

I haven't been able to find any new info about Ryan Lanza and whether he's still in custody (supposedly for his own protection???), but I did find this:

Lanza Family: Ryan's 'RIP' Posts Are Fake

'I am a victim,' says older brother of shooter

http://www.newser.com/story/159794/ryan ... -adam.html

This begs the question: 'Who was behind the false post'?

Facebook cooperates with US 'security services' in matters of this nature, but a google search brings up pages of rehashes of the hoax story, but not one website appears to ask the question 'Who posted the fake stuff?.

So, we must also look at the Ryan Lanza side of this affair, which I have the feeling might lead to some interesting information.

[Amanda]

Okay, I've been following John Friend's blog a lot lately and he mentioned this site  http://radio.abirato.info/ (Radio Abirato - Exposing Media Fakery One PsyOp At A Time) and said they were doing a good job exposing what's going on w/Sandy Hook. So, I just went there a few minutes ago and started to listen to one of the audios w/a guy named Simon Shack, who is supposedly behind the film "September Clues" (at least I think he is).  I was only able to listen to a few minutes b/c this guy's accent was driving me crazy-- it kind of sounds like an israeli accent (his voice/accent really reminds me of Gilad Atzmon, but maybe I'm just bad at accents). Does anyone know anything about this Simon Shack guy?? Is he an israeli? All I know is that he's behind the whole "September Clues" video, which I haven't seen.

Here's the audio:  http://radio.abirato.info/2012-12-26-06 ... -and-nasa/


Also, for those interested, there's some more info on the mother of the alleged victim, Noah Pozner, at the link below (apparently she went out and got a tattoo the day after her kid was killed??):

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... &start=405

[Christopher Marlowe]

Here's a video of Ryan Lanza, beginning at 0:30
He looks a lot like his brother Adam

Okay, I've been following John Friend's blog a lot lately and he mentioned this site <!-- m -->http://radio.abirato.info/<!-- m --> (Radio Abirato - Exposing Media Fakery One PsyOp At A Time) and said they were doing a good job exposing what's going on w/Sandy Hook. So, I just went there a few minutes ago and started to listen to one of the audios w/a guy named Simon Shack, who is supposedly behind the film "September Clues" (at least I think he is). I was only able to listen to a few minutes b/c this guy's accent was driving me crazy-- it kind of sounds like an israeli accent (his voice/accent really reminds me of Gilad Atzmon, but maybe I'm just bad at accents). Does anyone know anything about this Simon Shack guy?? Is he an israeli? All I know is that he's behind the whole "September Clues" video, which I haven't seen.

John Friend is totally legit.
I think Simon Shack is legit. I go on Sept Clues forum a lot. They think everything is fake. Nobody got killed in Sandy Hook or on Sept 11. Lots of good threads there.

The abirato radio show ticked me off the last time I was listening to it. They were just going on suppositions, with no logical arguments to back up anything. The guest that day started blaming the Vatican, and that always makes my BS detector go up. If someone blames the Jesuits or the Vatican for things going on in politics or psy-ops, they are either disinfo or clueless.  Jews are running everything: banks, media, governments, and they want to blame Jesuits?

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm sure by now most have seen the list of questions about Sandy Hook that have been circulating. For those who haven't, it's posted here:  http://www.spingola.com/31Questions.html

Anyway, I've seen a lot of sites talking about how none of the parents actually saw their dead children and only identified them via photos, as mentioned in #16 from the questions list:

Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

But the info in this article seems to suggest that the parents of Noah Pozner actually did see him b/c they kind of decribe what he looked like (saying something about how he was missing the lower portion of his face?):


Noah Pozner's Family Remembers and Mourns
 
Jewish Family Copes With Loss of Child in Newtown Rampage

http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah ... rns/?p=all

Veronique asked the medical examiners not to autopsy her son; she felt that his body had suffered too many indignities. At his funeral, Noah was dressed in a suit and tie. A Jewish friend of Veronique's at work enjoined Rabbi Praver to allow him to be wrapped in a blue tallis, even though he had not yet had a bar mitzvah.
 
The family placed stuffed animals, a blanket and letters to Noah into the casket. Lastly, Veronique put a clear plastic rock with a white angel inside — an "angel stone" — in his right hand. She asked the funeral director to place an identical one in his left, which was badly mangled.
 
Just before the ceremony, Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy came to the funeral home to pay his respects. Veronique took him by the arm and brought him to the casket. Noah's famously long eyelashes — which she spoke about in her eulogy — rested lightly on his cheeks and a cloth covered the place where the lower half of his face had been. "I just needed it to be real for [the governor]," she says. "This was a live, warm, energetic little boy whose life was snuffed out in a fraction of a second because our schools are so defenseless."

Also, given all the talk about how some of the parents of these alleged victims seem like they could be actors (e.g. Robbie Parker), I thought this info about one of the parents was kind of interesting, though I'm not sure I've seen him interviewed:

Jewish Child Shot 11 Times in Newtown Rampage

http://forward.com/articles/167759/jewi ... n-rampage/

Another victim, Ben Wheeler, was also identified as being Jewish by some Israeli news outlets. His father David is a writer and performer with the Flagpole Shakespeare Repertory Theater, Newsday reported.

[Amanda]

Christopher Marlowe wrote:

John Friend is totally legit.
I think Simon Shack is legit. I go on Sept Clues forum a lot. They think everything is fake. Nobody got killed in Sandy Hook or on Sept 11. Lots of good threads there.

The abirato radio show ticked me off the last time I was listening to it. They were just going on suppositions, with no logical arguments to back up anything. The guest that day started blaming the Vatican, and that always makes my BS detector go up. If someone blames the Jesuits or the Vatican for things going on in politics or psy-ops, they are either disinfo or clueless. Jews are running everything: banks, media, governments, and they want to blame Jesuits?

Okay. thanks. I have no doubts about John Friend. And I honestly don't know anything about the SImon Shack guy at all. So this was my first introduction to him and when I heard the accent, I just wasn't sure I wanted to go further... And I totally agree w/you on people who push that whole "it's the jesuits, it's the vatican, or it's the knights of malta"--LOL, people pushing that have to be disinfo or braindead